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teachers strike?

Rockslinger

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We should go back to the future. You enter the public service you don't strike. Otherwise, don't join the public sector.
 

GameBoy27

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We should go back to the future. You enter the public service you don't strike. Otherwise, don't join the public sector.
Holy fuck Rockslinger, I think that's two comments I've agreed with you on. Can we go back to arguing about bicycles? That was much more fun. :D
 

red

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Is it hard talking out of your ass?
i don't know. i've never tried. I speak from my experience with putting four kids through the public school system.

whats your experience? and what is it based on?
 

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Once heard a teacher debate an idiot who said, "why don't I just pay you $10 an hour to babysit my kid?"

Teacher said, OK..........

6 hours/day X 5 days = 30 hours
30 hours/week X 4 weeks = 120 hours/month
120 hours/month X 9 months (minus Christmas, March, and unpaid PD days) = 1080 hours/year
1080 hours/year X $10 = $10800
$10800 X 30 squealing, ungrateful, disrespectful tiny versions of their idiot parents = $324,000

WOW! $324,000 per year? I'll take that.

Average teacher salary in Ontrio is approx. $54,000 per year.

Sounds like a bargain compared to teenager babysitter money.
What grade do you teach? I'm sure the Board would like your sig.

BTW your example of course makes no sense but it sounds good for about 5 seconds
 

Rockslinger

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Apparently, all teachers have received a missive (missile?) from their union saying follow the union line, or else.
 

richaceg

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I didn't know if I was a teacher I could've afford to hobby more and my schedule would most probably mesh with my ATFs...
 

OddSox

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Your math is way off. In the States (my State for sure), 100k/year works out to about $35-40/hour for the average teacher. This is based on approximately 2400-2800 hours worked. Considering all of their contractual obligations, along with the realities of grading, lesson design, and professional development, those numbers are relativley accurate. Considering the schooling that it takes, $35-40 is not big money
2800 hours per year? LOL!
 

Rockslinger

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The teachers are a great role model for our kids. If your demands are not immediately satisfied, cry, whine, hold your breath, scream, yell, refuse to do your chores, throw a temper tantrum, call your parents nasty names, don't show up for meetings, etc.
 

GameBoy27

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The teachers are a great role model for our kids. If your demands are not immediately satisfied, cry, whine, hold your breath, scream, yell, refuse to do your chores, throw a temper tantrum, call your parents nasty names, don't show up for meetings, etc.
Amen!
 

dj1470

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i don't know. i've never tried. I speak from my experience with putting four kids through the public school system.

whats your experience? and what is it based on?
the fact that you are wrong
 

dj1470

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What grade do you teach? I'm sure the Board would like your sig.

BTW your example of course makes no sense but it sounds good for about 5 seconds
Why doesn't make sense? Perfectly good math.
BTW, I'm not a teacher. I own a small business but thanks for being a douchebag.
 

james t kirk

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CPR announced today its intention to lay off 4,500 people.

And the teachers are being asked to take a wage freeze for 2 years.

Hmmmmm

Reminds me of massive corporation where I worked before. In one morning, they laid off one third of the entire office. The rest of us were just shell shocked but we were told that that was the way it was going to be. We were told that if we didn't like it - we were welcome to quit, but in the mean time, we have deadline to make.

I respect the teachers, but they do have it made.


Canadian Pacific Railway Ltd. says it will eliminate some 4,500 jobs by 2016 and expects more than a third of those cuts to come by year-end as the struggling railway works to bring down its operating costs.The Calgary-based company said Tuesday the reductions will be achieved through job cuts, attrition and reducing contractors as part of its restructuring plan.

It expects 1,700 positions to be eliminated by the end of the year. In total, the reductions will amount to the elimination of about a quarter of some 19,500 employees and contractors operating in six provinces and 13 U.S. states.

The cuts are part of a plan to increase annual revenue growth between 4 and 7 per cent from 2012 levels as well as reduce its full-year operating ratio — a closely watched measure of how much revenue is required to run the business — to the mid-60s range by 2016.

The strategic moves are the latest for the railway since a new board of directors installed Hunter Harrison as its chief executive officer in the summer following a bitter proxy fight with the company’s largest shareholder.

Pershing Square Capital pushed for Mr. Harrison to replace then-CEO Fred Green, saying the veteran railroader had what it takes to bring CP from 2011’s operating ratio of 81.3 to 65 by 2015.

“Momentum is building at Canadian Pacific and the organization is driving to a culture of intense focus on operations,” Mr. Harrison said in a statement Tuesday.

“Service will be what drives this organization, by providing a premium, reliable product offering through a lower-cost operation ...We have initiated a rapid change agenda and have made tremendous progress in my first 160 days, and we are only getting started.”

CP said Tuesday it will also explore options including the potential to sell surplus real estate, as well as the Delaware and Hudson line in the U.S. Northeast. The company also announced it’s seeking potential buyers for a U.S. line that stretches about 1,000 kilometres across several states in the U.S. Midwest.

It will move its current corporate headquarters in downtown Calgary to new office space at its Ogden Yard, on the outskirts of the city, by 2014
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...-2016-as-railway-restructures/article5969733/
 

james t kirk

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Back in the old days, CPR had 3 engineers driving the train. Two actually drove the train and the 3rd was there to stroke the coal that was no longer there.
My point was that hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs have disappeared in Canada. In the case of the CPR announcement today, it's a bitter pill because one month ago, CPR announced record profits. Today, they announce they are going to lay off 4,500 souls.

Thousands on top of thousands have been laid off and Ontario is 15 billion in debt and yet our teacher friends are figuring that because they are not going to get a 2% raise that they should work to rule. (But hey, it's all for the kids.) I wonder if those 4,500 people at CPR were offered what the teachers have if they would take it or not?
 

Rockslinger

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My point was that hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs have disappeared in Canada.
I expanded on your point. The reason why the railroads were required to keep the coal stroker long after they switched to diesel was because the union put a gun to the head of management to guarantee stroker jobs for life. Unions are the root of all evil.
 

FAST

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Strange economics

I expanded on your point. The reason why the railroads were required to keep the coal stroker long after they switched to diesel was because the union put a gun to the head of management to guarantee stroker jobs for life. Unions are the root of all evil.
A pretty common thread in unions thought process,...being inefficient, creats good paying jobs.

For a while anyway,...then more jobs are eventually lost than were "created" by this warped reality !!!

Teachers still push for more positions even when most don't work a "full" day, just to back up their pension,...but its all for the students !!!

FAST
 

frankcastle

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Thousands on top of thousands have been laid off and Ontario is 15 billion in debt and yet our teacher friends are figuring that because they are not going to get a 2% raise that they should work to rule. (But hey, it's all for the kids.) I wonder if those 4,500 people at CPR were offered what the teachers have if they would take it or not?
Wait the issue is how it went down.... i.e. calling in the provincial parliament early and forcing legislation through, instead of negotiating..... I think the people should have the right to strike, negotiate, and get what they were promised

what's the point of a contract if it won't be honoured before the person gets to retire and get those benefits?

if I hire you at a price we both agree upon to do work at my house, after you are done working I then tell you that I ran out of money and can't pay you..... what would you do?

I bet if the teachers were offered a deal with 0^ raise but keep the gratuity and sick days and move up the payscale as the last contract they'd be all over that.
 
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