it's also important for those who associate with people whose immune systems are compromised!
Flu Vaccine Time
- Thread starter Petzel
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The article posted earlier lost it when it made the claim that vaccines failed because they don't protect you (100%). That's never been the claim, so I knew the author was not well versed in the facts of how vaccines worked, so the much of his article and opinions were questionableWhile vaccines are not 100% without risk (allergic reaction etc) it is fairly obvious that they are beneficial, all but wiping out terrible deseases like polio and small pox for instance. Yet there remains this backwards group, largely in the US of lettuce eaterswho persist in perpetuating these narrow minded views, myths and fears. Hard to understand.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist... And I won't be getting a flu shot it isn't really necessary for me.I'm young and healthy, I dont work with sick people or deal with the public all the time. Even if did, handwashing is good enough. We need to get sick every once and a while. I get sick all the time from kids . And I'd rather not contribute to some kind of super bug. I'd rather build up natural immunities. If it's not going to kill me or disable me, I don't really want to take the shot... I don'teally agree with everyone having access to it either.
Getting it when you're young is best. You also don't know who's handle that door knob, drawer handle, or window latch, just before you. You have more risk from getting a problem with superbugs because of excessive use of antibiotic soaps and shot.
Did you really just suggest that people don't live longer than they did 300 years ago? Really?
I am not getting the vaccine because I am busy and can't be bothered.
But that does not mean that it is not a good idea and people should follow my example.
Nor does it mean that the inane quackery posted on the internet about vaccines is true.
Humans are walking warehouses of germs, viruses and bacteria. Do not kiss little kids or seniors.
Also, don't keep your house spic and span clean. Your immune system needs exercise.
Also, don't keep your house spic and span clean. Your immune system needs exercise.
What is the proper amount of filth to keep in our houses for our optimum health?
Get a couple of pigs. Remember our immune system was designed to live among pigs as was the case with our ancestors. They never got ashma.
I can't speak about your ancestors, but mine hunted pigs. they slept with cows and horses. It was the English that introduced pigs to our farms and told us to leave.
Long term
I get the flu shot, but still have some concerns with the system,...not too long ago, doctors were prescribing antibiotics way to often, and did not tell patients to finish the prescription.
The result, as I understand it, is that some viruses mutated, instead of being killed off.
Before any of the so called experts reply, I am only repeating what I was told by the medical profession, but I would be interested in hearing from people actually in the profession.
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I get the flu shot, but still have some concerns with the system,...not too long ago, doctors were prescribing antibiotics way to often, and did not tell patients to finish the prescription.
The result, as I understand it, is that some viruses mutated, instead of being killed off.
Before any of the so called experts reply, I am only repeating what I was told by the medical profession, but I would be interested in hearing from people actually in the profession.
FAST
Not so much mutated, but just were not eliminated. Viruses normally have a natural high rated of mutation. Just a point, antibiotics won't do diddly to fight viral infections. It doesn't take a medical professional to know that one. If doctors prescribed antibiotics for a viral infections, they should go back for a refresher course.
Docs were in the habit of giving out antibiotics, just in case it was bacterial and to make the patient go away. They seem much better now about resisting the urge to just fire off a prescription.
I've never heard a concern about vaccines inducing a supervirus. Viruses do mutate regularly, but the vaccines train your body to fight them without actually exposing you to live, mutatable virus. To a virus, an immunized population is like scorched earth. No room to get established without an immune system kicking in immediately.
Yes, vaccines and modern medicine have made it far more likely for people to live their natural life.
. The flu virus itself is always changing. That's why you need a shot every year. There are antibiotic resistant bacteria...and viruses mutate and can become super bugs.... That itself, scares the living sh*t out of me. I don't care about the other reasons, like not feeling well or potentially having a reaction and being crippled by the shot (that's very rare) but I personally don't want to contribute to the cycle.
Here is my understanding, at this point. Would love for someone to add to it or prove me wrong, as I'm open-minded on the subject.
Vaccination, in general, is good for the overall population. There are risks, however, as evidenced - at least in the US - by the compensation the government pays to victims of vaccine injuries. While the best situation for society is for everyone to be vaccinated, the optimal solution for an individual is to be a free rider. Let everyone else get vaccinated, obtain 99.999% of the benefits via herd immunity, and pay none of the costs.
Vaccination, in general, is good for the overall population. There are risks, however, as evidenced - at least in the US - by the compensation the government pays to victims of vaccine injuries. While the best situation for society is for everyone to be vaccinated, the optimal solution for an individual is to be a free rider. Let everyone else get vaccinated, obtain 99.999% of the benefits via herd immunity, and pay none of the costs.
