Now official: Asians have the highest income, are the best-educated

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Would love to see your reference for that as deaths at sea were hard to total as records of such were bad for business, 12 million were offered for sale and recorded as such. The best estimate is ~15%. The best estimate for the numbers who died as a result of the 'institution' of slavery fro the period 1500-1900 is ~4 million.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Feel free to show differently.
Fine, more Russians were killed by Jews in Stalin's Russia.
 

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is this where this thread is going? from social commentary to a race discussion? tricky.
 

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Most of us don't have the nature so it doesn't matter how much nurture is provided. Gretzky wasn't the only kid in Canada practising to play hockey. Jordan is 6 ft 6 in tall and he's the only person in his immediate family who is over 6 feet tall (neither of his parents break 6 feet) - he grew several inches in a single year. He has extra large hands for a ball player, and extraordinary dexterity and jumping ability. Lance Armstrong has an abnormally large heart that allows it to pump more rich oxygen blood throughout this system. Bill Gate's father was a prominent lawyer - so he comes from a high IQ family. The Beatles were one a hundreds of bands that worked just as hard but only they had members talented enough to create epic songs.

It's true that you can never know your full potential unless you apply yourself, but you're not going to get the same results for everybody.

This spelling bee winner's father writes computer programs. What does that tell you about him? How many fathers do you know that can write computer programs?

If it's true that the immigrants we let into Canada are highly educated (it's been said that our cab drivers are doctors and surgeons in their home countries), it means we're taking the cream of the crop from overseas. The typical Canadian with an IQ of 90 - 100 cannot compete with immigrants who are both ambitious and equipped with higher IQs.
 

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Think back to grade 1. The teacher is doing a lesson on basic mathematics. Every kid in the class is trying their hardest to figure it all out. 1 + 1 = 2. The concept comes easy to some, but with great difficulty to others.

One kid observes that she is better at math than most, another kid observes that she is poorer at math. Their lives begin to diverge based on that real world demonstration. Both of their parents told them they're smart and can do anything they want if they work hard at it, but the real world ranks us according to objective ability rather than fairy tales told to us by loving parents.
 

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Fine, more Russians were killed by Jews in Stalin's Russia.
Really?

Something tells me he may have been born a Jews but didn't live as one, especially when you read this at the end, which makes me wonder if you read it;

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Stalin was born into the Russian Orthodox religion, even considering entering the clergy, but I would call him a practicing member during his life as a whole, especially during his adult years.
 

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Stalin was not Russian, he was Asian.

Really?

Something tells me he may have been born a Jews but didn't live as one, especially when you read this at the end, which makes me wonder if you read it;

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Stalin was born into the Russian Orthodox religion, even considering entering the clergy, but I would call him a practicing member during his life as a whole, especially during his adult years.
 

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Really?

Something tells me he may have been born a Jews but didn't live as one, especially when you read this at the end, which makes me wonder if you read it;

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Stalin was born into the Russian Orthodox religion, even considering entering the clergy, but I would call him a practicing member during his life as a whole, especially during his adult years.
You needn't look at Stalin alone anyway.

"An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda . . . is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people."

That 10 million death toll at the hands of a Jew surpasses your 6 million figure for the Holocaust. Jews had a hand in the 4 million African deaths during the slave trade as well.
 

blackrock13

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You needn't look at Stalin alone anyway.

"An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda . . . is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people."

That 10 million death toll at the hands of a Jew surpasses your 6 million figure for the Holocaust. Jews had a hand in the 4 million African deaths during the slave trade as well.

I was holding Stalin up as one contemporary example, not a lone one. You will claim 'til your blue in the face that this guy was Jewish, simply because he was born Jewish and I put that you he wasn't living life as one but rather a communist and nor was he alone responsible for all the deaths, just that it's just a catchy headline.
 

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This subject doesnt belong here. You and whoever are hijacking the thread. Start a new thread if guys want to debate this. Some of you guys are too fond of straying completely off topic.
wow! Breath deep. Stick around a while and you'll see that threads do that on occasional but generally work their way back.
 

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Stalin was Georgian (ethnically - though communists didn't officially acknowledge ethnicity or religions). That's about as Asian as the Middle East. I have a feeling that they wouldn't be included in the original report.

If you want to include them though, the OP stats are not surprising considering it's 1/3 of the Earth's land mass and 2/3 of it's population. Odds are there's going to be some successful people included in that group.
 

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Hamilton is a case study in what you describe. It's literally breathtaking to see. All that exists in Hamilton is White trash and young Asian McMaster University students. Somehow young poor lazy cigarette smoking beer drinking tattooed White single parent trash pushing baby carriages with no prospects co-habitate with napsack-wearing preppy childless young Asian university students who are on the path to successful futures. That entire city gives me the creeps.
I know hamilton very well.

The white trash you are talking about is most prevalent when you go downtown to the jackson square area and extends towards the steel factories. But areas like Westdale near the university is full of wealthy whites. You just don't see the wealthy people as much because they are driving. :) There are a few places off the top of my head that have some amazing homes which I am sure are not in the price range of the stroller pushing smoke hags.
 

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Most SP clients will be White (as you said, due to demographics), but Asian clients will be represented disproportionately high compared to their numbers in the population.

Wealthy parents often give their kids decent allowances - in return for getting good grades. A single university textbook probably costs $250 nowadays lol. There were two Asian guys I knew during my brief stint in school, and neither was short for cash. Both the sons of successful professional parents, one had a jeep, both had stereos, computers, the whole nine. Actually one looked completely Asian but he was actually mixed, his mom was White.
Yeah no arguments that such asains exist. But I just think it's a gross generalization that there are a lot of spoiled rich asian kids in university. I know quite a few who had books a tuition paid for but aside from that they didn't get cars or allowances. Walk around a campus parking lot and I'm sure you can find rich white kids too. It's university after all so you are more likely to find people from wealthier families.
 

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Don't know about Hamilton but here in Toronto, I see elderly Chinese women going around collecting empties and redeeming them at The Beer Store for 10cent a bottle. Can't imagine a White or Black person doing such a degrading thing. I'm sure that every cent these women collect goes to better the life of their children and grandchildren.
Normally it's a beared white guy scrounging empties that I see west of downtown. But either way it sounds like a very informal and not very significant survey of the situation of bottle collectors. :)
 

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The problem with Hamilton was the assumption that people could continue to be paid $50 to $75 an hour to work in the steel mills. It was tough work but good pay if you could get it. But htose days are gone. there are still many well to do people in Hamilto nand the surrounding areas but most commute elsewhere to work.
 
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