I don't care about your spelling and grammar.....
But for fuck's sake just tell us the name of the SP.....
I totally agree that this thread is useless without the SP's name....
A little rant about SP tactics / A warning to "Johns"
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I don't care about your spelling and grammar.....
But for fuck's sake just tell us the name of the SP.....
I totally agree that this thread is useless without the SP's name....
busted my ass hunting that large ass down in your sig
found it!
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1968186000
He was played for a fool.Come on ,she called him 3 days later and he believed her and sent the money anyways.Sucker!
Thanks your post/warning lurker2011. Sorry for all the crap, you have become a victim again by posting your experience. What hasn't been addressed was the ending of the session prematurely. The 10 minutes you were shortchanged, cost you just as much as the "fee shortage".
If you have can't win an argument or have nothing useful to contribute, correct their grammar and spelling instead.
So you're not sure you had the right amount in the envelope. That can happen and you did the right thing to keep the lady's name out of it. The lesson is to make sure you are 100% positive about what is in the envelope so if there's a dispute, you know exactly where you stand.
The math is still off. I assume you paid her $30 more dollars when she claimed you had shorted her. That would mean you were out a total of 260+30=$290. If you DID make a mistake, you would have paid her 220+30=$250. There was no $300 (unless you tipped her twice - once in the envelope and the second time for robbing you!!).
This thread has been a lot of hot air over $40 which, by the way, is not a "huge amount".
These are all tools which are generally used by SP's as Rip-off tools, nothing new it happens in this kind of non-regulated business, which has no legal status if the adult industry was regularized then such things would minimize to a great extent for fearing of getting accountable to someone!! Good Luck to such SP's! such SP's should be exposed for their wrong doings!!
Please pm me the sp's name if you don't to put it on this thread.So a couple of weeks ago I saw this independent SP who advertises here on TERB and I felt that I have been somewhat been ripped off. I am a gentleman and I will not mention this SP's name not because it is against TERB policy but because I do understand that one negative publicity such as this will cause her some business and I am not the asshole to do just that. I will be very fair and decent in this criticism.
So here is what happens:
The night before our encounter, I head to my local bank to withdraw cash for her hourly donation ($250). My maximum daily withdrawal from my bank is $200. I withdrew it, put it in an envelope, and when I got home, I am quite sure I put in an extra 3 $20 bills so that makes it $260. Immediately when I got to her room, I hand her the envelope on the table and hopped on the shower. A minute later she goes knocking on the door saying I only gave her $220. I count money for a living and I am quite sure I didn't put only 1 $20 on that envelope with already $200 on it. Now, I do realize the possibility that I could have been mistaken so I guess the purpose of this is just to warn "Johns" of similar tactics such as this one. To you "Johns" out there I give you this information so you can decide in the future how to protect yourself. Either both of you put the money on the table and count it before your very eyes, or you can give 2 $100 bills and 1 $50 just to minimize the possibility of this happening to you. Either way, this is just a heads up to fellow hobbyists.
Secondly, we agreed on our meeting to be, say, 3 P.M. I texted her 10 minutes early that I was in the area and was asking for my room number. She said she needed some more time getting ready so I said OK no problem. She replies exactly at 3 P.M. and then I head to her room. I walked and took me 10 minutes to head to her room. After we have done the deed, her alarms rings at exactly 4 P.M. I've always thought that the time starts when you get into her room and not at the original slotted time especially that it was her lateness and needing more time to get ready that we weren't able to start at exactly 3 P.M. I am a decent guy and although I have my suspicions then and there, I am not one to make a big fuss about this and ruin your day.
So to the SP, you might have gotten my $250 or $300 for this matter but I will never book you again. Although, it is still a huge amount, I hope you realize that it is more beneficial to you to provide the upmost in customer service because if you do, I would have kept coming back. Thanks for reading.
One thing I do I always use larger denomination bills like $50 and $100.
The math is still off. I assume you paid her $30 more dollars when she claimed you had shorted her. That would mean you were out a total of 260+30=$290. If you DID make a mistake, you would have paid her 220+30=$250. There was no $300 (unless you tipped her twice - once in the envelope and the second time for robbing you!!).
No, I withdrew $200 from my bank (that I'm 100% sure I had that amount in the envelope) and then when I got home, I'm "quite sure" and I'm using that term because there is indeed a possibility that there could be an error on my part too but like I said it would have been highly unlikely that I only put 1 $20 bill on top of that $200.
And yes my math is correct. When she informed me it only had $220 in that envelope, I still gave her 2 $20 bill so overall, I think I might have paid $300.
And yes you can say $40 is not a lot of money but that isn't really the point. I mean if Rogers initially said your bill would come to $30 and every month you get charged $45, would you really be OK with forking over the $15 just because $15 isn't a lot of money???
Jesus Christ. All this over $50.00? 103 posts over such a small amount? Wonder how many posts if it had of been $100.00? GB
I don't think it is really necessary to reveal the name of the SP. It wasn't my intent to sort of "get back" at her. And even if I do reveal her name, it would be a me vs her kind of thing, and according to TERBland, since I only have 48 posts and no reviews, then I would have been deemed a liar.
And to the SP's defense, looking back I guess she was just really in a rush and hungry. I know when I left she was eager to eat her breakfast. It really could have been an honest misunderstanding from her part. I think nobody would really know exactly what happened since we didn't videotape anything.
So as to end this, I made this thread so hobbyists can be informed and make their own adjustments. Will you still use the envelope approach or would you count the money with the SP. This thread is just for information and not for bashing and users like HOF and whatstheotherguys handle turns this into an essay grading term paper.
And to the SP's defense, looking back I guess she was just really in a rush and hungry. I know when I left she was eager to eat her breakfast. It really could have been an honest misunderstanding from her part. I think nobody would really know exactly what happened since we didn't videotape anything.
So as to end this, I made this thread so hobbyists can be informed and make their own adjustments. Will you still use the envelope approach or would you count the money with the SP. This thread is just for information and not for bashing and users like HOF and whatstheotherguys handle turns this into an essay grading term paper.
It does not look like he is even willing to do this.
I asked him for a yes or no answer about a girl I was thinking it might be.. no reply.
Unfortunately, this means I need to assume that it could be her, and take that into consideration as to whether I want to book her. Obviously, it's unfair to be painted with this brush if she's not the one who did it.. but I hate to be ripped off (it would absolutely ruin the entire experience) and so I have no choice if no further information is forthcoming..
Are you fucked-up? You have the wrong victim in this post.
Re-read the posts and correct your story against me. Follow the thread more carefully next time.
I hope that you were referring to babypowder, and not me. I had no 'dog in this race', and was merely pointing out what you have just stated; babypowder's 'correcting' another poster's spelling, while his posts are not perfect to begin with. If all else fails, some people resort to ad hominem attacks to hide that fact of the lack of substance in their argument.
I am done with this thread that has turned into a mud-slinging fest. A poster recounts his experiences with one SP and suggests ways to avoid the issue that he encountered and almost every one gets on his case. No one, except the two who were directly involved in the incident, knows what really happened, and all the armchair critics get their backs up to crucify the individual for speaking up and suggesting how to avoid this circumstance, as a service to us all. He protects the SP on account of his gentlemanly demeanor, and suggests the possibility that ther might have been an error on his part, and gets slagged for it.
Lighten up, every one!
This is the kind of posts that encourages the few unscrupulous SPs to continue doing it and being more brave about it knowing full well the money is no object crowds on review boards will support it.
Even if it's a penny it still comes down to principle.
This is nothing new for women to do this. Happened to me a couple times when I did SWs. All it took was you being 2 mins in the bathroom for them to help themselves to extras from your wallet.
All SPs should not be painted with a wide brush as being dishonest and thieves though.
It's really the ones who have Pimps at their disposal are more brave at doing it.
In fact living off the avails, the pimps have lots of time to think up new ways of scheming the predominantly docile no drama John who wishes to keep his activities on the down low.
Calling attention of the police to the hobby is not in it's best interest and often takes something dramatic to get their attention anyway.
Most John's do not have what it takes in them to accomplish such and so this thread is a welcome reminder to guys to be smart. Not only in selecting well reviewed SPs, but also taking the time to do things procedurally smart despite the small head hoarding all the blood and being in control.
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