A little rant about SP tactics / A warning to "Johns"

[Babypowder]

Holy fuck man. Someone tries to give you some info and all you can do it pick on a specific word. Give it a rest. Lurker's right, its like a court room.

yea thats all i can do because im the one who brought up the whole quite discussion /sarcasm. foh.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

There is a little ruse some chambermaids supposedly use in sunshine destinations. When you check out, the front desk calls them and asks them to scan your room for any missing or damaged items. Supposedly, they have confronted the guest at the reception desk and said a towel is missing and there is a $$ charge. When the guest protests, the chambermaid allegedly claims the money will come out of her pocket. Obviously the guest is flustered, in a rush to catch a flight and often may just pay up.

What I do before I leave is take a couple of quick photos of the room. I'm not sure if there is something along those lines that can be done in these situations, to cover yourself against accusations of insufficient funds. Lurker is not even !00% certain that it was all there. If you took a quick snap shot of all the bills in the envelope before you place it in your pocket, it is fairly unlikely that one would fall out.

She could still claim you were short, but at least that way you would know in your own mind you were correct and could avoid her in the future.

 

[lurker2011]

Nah dude the problem with handling the exchange is not the bill type..... the flaw was giving an opening where a claim could be made that you made a mistake.

Count it out in front of her. It is not going to offend her (she was comfortable with her profession long before you arrived at the door) and it ensures you don't get ripped off. And if you are still concerned about how she feels then ask yourself what is more important $50 or her hurt feelings (which 99% won't be affected)

In no line of business that I can think of where two people who have met for the first time are going to be offended by money counting.

Right. Like I said, these are times I just let my guard down and just expect the other person to be decent. I think its an isolated incident anyway and have used the envelope approach many times before but this was a first for me.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

Nah dude the problem with handling the exchange is not the bill type..... the flaw was giving an opening where a claim could be made that you made a mistake.

Count it out in front of her. It is not going to offend her (she was comfortable with her profession long before you arrived at the door) and it ensures you don't get ripped off. And if you are still concerned about how she feels then ask yourself what is more important $50 or her hurt feelings (which 99% won't be affected)

In no line of business that I can think of where two people who have met for the first time are going to be offended by money counting.

I have seen some websites where the ladies have specifically asked for the money to be left in the envelope and placed on the dresser/table upon arrival.

 

[frankcastle]

I have seen some websites where the ladies have specifically asked for the money to be left in the envelope and placed on the dresser/table upon arrival.

Fruity you are right. Didn't think about that. I'd still ask her to check it before we start.

 

[lurker2011]

There is a little ruse some chambermaids supposedly use in sunshine destinations. When you check out, the front desk calls them and asks them to scan your room for any missing or damaged items. Supposedly, they have confronted the guest at the reception desk and said a towel is missing and there is a $$ charge. When the guest protests, the chambermaid allegeTango updatedly claims the money will come out of her pocket. Obviously the guest is flustered, in a rush to catch a flight and often may just pay up.

What I do before I leave is take a couple of quick photos of the room. I'm not sure if there is something along those lines that can be done in these situations, to cover yourself against accusations of insufficient funds. Lurker is not even !00% certain that it was all there. If you took a quick snap shot of all the bills in the envelope, it is fairly unlikely that one would fall out. She could still claim you were short, but at least that way you would know in your own mind you were correct and could avoid her in the future.

I said I'm 100% sure I got $200 from the bank because I did count it and rarely does a bank machine spit out $160 when you pressed $200. The other $60 could possibly be an error from me but it wouldn't just feel right if I only transferred 1 $20 from my wallet to that envelope. But like I said, I will leave room for error just because I have an open mind and it could have been indeed an error from me. And this thread isn't really about that, it's just made me think today that maybe some SP's do that and I go here in TERB and just be extra careful regarding the money handling part. So make your own adjustments. Or you can continue to be like Babypowder and write things about my spelling.

 

[Babypowder]

You misspelled grammar.

 

[d_jedi]

Does anybody here just hand a SP an envelope and hop in the shower with out making sure the business is straight first? i guess so after reading koreanenvy's post i guess if i continue to never use envelopes and run in the shower i will be ok. I mean id understand if you were a super long term client, but shes not my SO there's no trust here on either end. whenever i go pooning i count the cash all at once for starters, right in front of her, or I'll hand it to her and wait for that acknowledgement . i mean look at it from her end. you hand her an envelope she just throws it aside you fuck the shit out of her for 60 mins and when she opens up the envelope afterwards to stash the money its a wad of Canadian tire money.

it sucks that you believe you were 'shafted' 40 dollars that you would have probably tipped her with any ways but this is like getting your car stolen because you left the keys in the ignition and the windows down.

It's a matter of mutual trust.
One girl I saw found it odd that I even wanted to give her the money at the start of the session..
Another didn't even want to look in the envelope (I actually wanted her to.. for another reason).

Likewise, I assume that if a girl has been well reviewed here, that she's going to be honest enough to count the money properly. This is why I think the OP should name names.

 

[d_jedi]

And to the SP, I deliberately altered the time of the meeting so as not to out you. I will not answer PM's regarding your identity either from fellow members here. You can also consider this as an honest to goodness advice to you that you should take care of your clients. I am sure that you would prefer a repeat customer rather than a new one. If you are not sure "you" are who I am referring to this thread, I will give 2 hints. There was a large mirror on the left side of the bed and I can see the TD Tower and KPMG at your incall. I hope you take this advice into heart and hope I am not giving you emotional grief. Good luck to yourself.

I really do wish you'd name the SP here.
Because when you mention that incall location.. and Ottawa.. and that she charges $250/hr.. A name pops into my mind.
*I* don't want to name names, because that would totally be idle speculation. But I wish you would..

 

[lurker2011]

I really do wish you'd name the SP here.
Because when you mention that incall location.. and Ottawa.. and that she charges $250/hr.. A name pops into my mind.
*I* don't want to name names, because that would totally be idle speculation. But I wish you would..

I'm not going to do that dude because it just won't be fair for her and I am not an asshole and ruin her business. She should be really extremely grateful for the kind of person that I am because of the silliness of a few dollars would have cost her a thousand more if I was the asshole type.

This is really just a heads up to Johns about some SP's "miscounting" so they could make their own adjustments. About the Ottawa part, I am not sure if that is even 100% reliable. I mean she just told me she's from that area but I never saw an ID or anything like that so I wouldn't put that much weight on it.

 

[shack]

They don't want to count it in front of you. It ruins the GFE.

It's true. Once she's counted it, no matter how much DFK and BJ I get all I can think of was the counting.

Get real.

 

[HOF]

So a couple of weeks ago I saw this independent SP who advertises here on TERB and I felt that I have been somewhat been ripped off. I am a gentleman and I will not mention this SP's name not because it is against TERB policy but because I do understand that one negative publicity such as this will cause her some business and I am not the asshole to do just that. I will be very fair and decent in this criticism.

[So here is what happens:

The night before our encounter, I head to my local bank to withdraw cash for her hourly donation ($250). My maximum daily withdrawal from my bank is $200. I withdrew it, put it in an envelope, and when I got home, I am quite sure I put in an extra 3 $20 bills so that makes it $260. Immediately when I got to her room, I hand her the envelope on the table and hopped on the shower. A minute later she goes knocking on the door saying I only gave her $220. I count money for a living and I am quite sure I didn't put only 1 $20 on that envelope with already $200 on it. Now, I do realize the possibility that I could have been mistaken so I guess the purpose of this is just to warn "Johns" of similar tactics such as this one. To you "Johns" out there I give you this information so you can decide in the future how to protect yourself. Either both of you put the money on the table and count it before your very eyes, or you can give 2 $100 bills and 1 $50 just to minimize the possibility of this happening to you. Either way, this is just a heads up to fellow hobbyists.

Secondly, we agreed on our meeting to be, say, 3 P.M. I texted her 10 minutes early that I was in the area and was asking for my room number. She said she needed some more time getting ready so I said OK no problem. She replies exactly at 3 P.M. and then I head to her room. I walked and took me 10 minutes to head to her room. After we have done the deed, her alarms rings at exactly 4 P.M. I've always thought that the time starts when you get into her room and not at the original slotted time especially that it was her lateness and needing more time to get ready that we weren't able to start at exactly 3 P.M. I am a decent guy and although I have my suspicions then and there, I am not one to make a big fuss about this and ruin your day.

So to the SP, you might have gotten my $250 or $300 for this matter but I will never book you again. Although, it is still a huge amount, I hope you realize that it is more beneficial to you to provide the upmost in customer service because if you do, I would have kept coming back. Thanks for reading.

Shack, I've bolded where the OP claims to count money for a living. I sure as hell hope that he doesn't count mine!

Moral of the story!
1. Increase your limit or make certain that you have sufficient funds.
2. Shorten your story, so that it reads easier.
3. It's up to you to ensure when the hour starts and when it finishes, just ask the SP ahead of time.
4. It's useless to rant/rave if you're not willing to share who the SP is.

Here:

I called up this hottie sp and made arrangements for an hour 250.00. I'm a dumbass that can't take out more than 200.00 daily from an ATM. I had 60.00 at home, so I added that into the envelope. I should have stopped somewhere to break a twenty so that I'd have the exact amount. I made a non-review of an SP that I won't name because I'm a gentleman, but I'll let everyone know that she ripped me for money and time be I ain't too bright.

That's the short story.

The OP also claims there is always the possibility that he could have been mistaken! WTF.:hand:

 

[39ajaxmale]

agreed

But Jessica, what if this happens to you? What if some first time date leaves his money on a table, and you count it, and it's short. So you count again, and it's short. Now you're screwed if you do, and you're screwed if you don't. Do you just eat the loss and say.. customer service, hope he'll repeat, be the bigger person, just.. let it go? Or do you mention it? You don't want to be shorted I'm sure. You work hard for what you earn. It's a job. I don't go to my job and expect to get shorted on my paycheque.

What if the GUY is the dick (I'm not accusing you lurker). What if he INTENTIONALLY shorts you $20, or whatever, and just expects you to eat it, say nothing, be the polite Canadian and not bring it up. It's a situation where animosity is inevitable. There's really NO good end to this. He's gonna swear up and down he put in the required donation, you counted it and it was wrong.

Completely no win. I understand the GFE concept, I love it. But I don't expect that to start until business is done.

 

[d_jedi]

I'm not going to do that dude because it just won't be fair for her and I am not an asshole and ruin her business. She should be really extremely grateful for the kind of person that I am because of the silliness of a few dollars would have cost her a thousand more if I was the asshole type.

This is really just a heads up to Johns about some SP's "miscounting" so they could make their own adjustments. About the Ottawa part, I am not sure if that is even 100% reliable. I mean she just told me she's from that area but I never saw an ID or anything like that so I wouldn't put that much weight on it.

Check your PM please. I don't want to name the girl I'm thinking about publicly, but hopefully you could at least confirm or remove my suspicions..

 

[39ajaxmale]

And to the SP, I deliberately altered the time of the meeting so as not to out you. I will not answer PM's regarding your identity either from fellow members here. You can also consider this as an honest to goodness advice to you that you should take care of your clients. I am sure that you would prefer a repeat customer rather than a new one. If you are not sure "you" are who I am referring to this thread, I will give 2 hints. There was a large mirror on the left side of the bed and I can see the TD Tower and KPMG at your incall. I hope you take this advice into heart and hope I am not giving you emotional grief. Good luck to yourself.

To all the other girls who work within site lines of the TD Tower and KPMG, and have a mirror beside their bed, you can PM Lurker to clarify it's not you. Now instead of 1 girl who's reputation is in question, there's probably 20. Excellent touch.

Check your PM please. I don't want to name the girl I'm thinking about publicly, but hopefully you could at least confirm or remove my suspicions..

See above, he's not answering PM's. Don't hold your breath.

 

[HOF]

would have been real easy to hand over the envelope to the SP and say, "here's your envelope, do ya mind counting it to make sure it's ok?"[/QUOTE

That would have been too easy.

 

[frankcastle]

But Jessica, what if this happens to you? What if some first time date leaves his money on a table, and you count it, and it's short. So you count again, and it's short. Now you're screwed if you do, and you're screwed if you don't. Do you just eat the loss and say.. customer service, hope he'll repeat, be the bigger person, just.. let it go? Or do you mention it? You don't want to be shorted I'm sure. You work hard for what you earn. It's a job. I don't go to my job and expect to get shorted on my paycheque.

What if the GUY is the dick (I'm not accusing you lurker). What if he INTENTIONALLY shorts you $20, or whatever, and just expects you to eat it, say nothing, be the polite Canadian and not bring it up. It's a situation where animosity is inevitable. There's really NO good end to this. He's gonna swear up and down he put in the required donation, you counted it and it was wrong.

Completely no win. I understand the GFE concept, I love it. But I don't expect that to start until business is done.

I agree recently there was an SP talking about how she was short changed this way.

I bet there's at least a few jerks who after reading this might get the same idea..... book sweet jessica and get a "discount."

Nobody cares if the money is counted up front if the service is good. Hell she could write a receipt for all I care...... all I will remember is if I got off and how she did it.

For me the GFE starts after the payment and ends when I she walks me out the door.

 

[frankcastle]

To all the other girls who work within site lines of the TD Tower and KPMG, and have a mirror beside their bed, you can PM Lurker to clarify it's not you. Now instead of 1 girl who's reputation is in question, there's probably 20. Excellent touch.



See above, he's not answering PM's. Don't hold your breath.

Give lurker a chance maybe he's gone out or is in bed it is late.

 

[HOF]

Well Babypowder, lets just say that I am not going to get technical and argue about what words I'm using or weather I wrote ths or that like this is a courtroom. Just make the most use of whatever I posted in here. If you feel like laying your money out there and implying to the woman that she is a whore, then you are of course free to do whatever you like.

There are guys out there like Vatielvo and me who put the money in the envelop and let the woman be decent and spare her that money counting moment.

It's not whether you use an envelope or not; it's ensuring that YOU put the correct amount in, hello!

OP counts money for a living! OP doesn't know whether or not to weather the shit storm he's created!

 

[lurker2011]

It's not whether you use an envelope or not; it's ensuring that YOU put the correct amount in, hello!

OP counts money for a living! OP doesn't know whether or not to weather the shit storm he's created!

You are a troll. Goodbye.