Pissed off isn't the issue, not knowing where of you write is. Would you inaccurately throw around medical or legal terms with such abandon?
1967 Borders and The Palestinian scam
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Of course not, I have respect for the medical profession.Pissed off isn't the issue, not knowing where of you write is. Would you inaccurately throw around medical or legal terms with such abandon?
I have none for any religion.
I have less for people who think they're better then others based on which funny hat they wear.
I have even less for people who call for killing people who aren't in their club.
So seemingly Groggy your point is that if one doesn't like something, it therefore is acceptable to inaccurately represent its beliefs.
Actually, the japs killed more chinese people than jews killed in the holocaust.
The jews have enemies because of multiple reasons and what they doing now just further escalates that. They havea homeland, but that area in the world, is just as much the palestinians homes as well as the jews. If you cant understand sarcasm...which i meant as since they cant share no one should get that area.
The jews have enemies because of multiple reasons and what they doing now just further escalates that. They havea homeland, but that area in the world, is just as much the palestinians homes as well as the jews. If you cant understand sarcasm...which i meant as since they cant share no one should get that area.
Groggy israel itself has competently investigated the few cases of rogue soldiers using human shields, the israeli courts have cracked down on it. meanwhile hamas brags about using human shields. In any case the hamas use of human shields is the reason for the high number of palestinian casualties.
Yes the palestinians do have an absolute right to defend themselves, but not a right to use human shields and not a right to attack israeli civilians.
Yes the palestinians do have an absolute right to defend themselves, but not a right to use human shields and not a right to attack israeli civilians.
I have always enjoyed the people who apologize for the pograms etc. It separates the real anti-semities from the posers.Actually, the japs killed more chinese people than jews killed in the holocaust.
The jews have enemies because of multiple reasons and what they doing now just further escalates that. They havea homeland, but that area in the world, is just as much the palestinians homes as well as the jews. If you cant understand sarcasm...which i meant as since they cant share no one should get that area.
Except atheist and secular regimes kill far more than religious.Of course not, I have respect for the medical profession.
I have none for any religion.
I have less for people who think they're better then others based on which funny hat they wear.
I have even less for people who call for killing people who aren't in their club.
So by your logic you don't like the religious and you don't like the secular or atheists. You must be very lonely.
The bunch of you are pretty sad.
Can you describe where you think the end state of the Israeli/Palestinian issues might be?
The closest I've read recently, to what you all seem to want, was an op-ed in Haaretz.
Zeev Sternhell wrote:
But the question of borders is only one aspect of the failure to recognize the War of Independence as a fundamental turning point; it also has a civic angle. The anti-democratic legislation that the Knesset has enacted over the past year, which targets basic civic equality and which borders on racism even if it is not actually racist, is a way of declaring that the essence of the state is that it belongs to Jews alone. At bottom, this view stems from seeing Jews as the sole owners of the Land of Israel.
This means the state doesn't exist to guarantee democracy, equality, human rights or even a decent life to all; it exists to guarantee Jewish rule over the Land of Israel and to make sure no additional political entity is established here. Everything is deemed permissible to reach that end, and no price is considered too high. That's essentially what former Mossad chief Meir Dagan was warning us about as well. And for that reason, no previous government has ever posed as great a danger to the public as Netanyahu's government does.
Can you describe where you think the end state of the Israeli/Palestinian issues might be?
The closest I've read recently, to what you all seem to want, was an op-ed in Haaretz.
Zeev Sternhell wrote:
But the question of borders is only one aspect of the failure to recognize the War of Independence as a fundamental turning point; it also has a civic angle. The anti-democratic legislation that the Knesset has enacted over the past year, which targets basic civic equality and which borders on racism even if it is not actually racist, is a way of declaring that the essence of the state is that it belongs to Jews alone. At bottom, this view stems from seeing Jews as the sole owners of the Land of Israel.
This means the state doesn't exist to guarantee democracy, equality, human rights or even a decent life to all; it exists to guarantee Jewish rule over the Land of Israel and to make sure no additional political entity is established here. Everything is deemed permissible to reach that end, and no price is considered too high. That's essentially what former Mossad chief Meir Dagan was warning us about as well. And for that reason, no previous government has ever posed as great a danger to the public as Netanyahu's government does.
A two state solution, with changes to the previous Jordanian - Israeli border particularly in the "Tel Aviv wasp waist." Likewise Syria is going to have to give up the Golan Heights.The bunch of you are pretty sad.
Can you describe where you think the end state of the Israeli/Palestinian issues might be?
Jerusalem is going to have to become a bi-national or international city. Both sides wish it to be their capital that can be accomplished but political power is going to have to be on a city election basis with that city government rather than either Israel or Palestine running the city with perhaps the buildings of the two respective governments being national enclaves.
Israel is going to have to give up settlements which are not close enough to the border to be incorporated into Israel.
Israel will make monetary payments to the families of those who left in 1948, but the so called "right of return" will have to be given up.
Interesting that you seem to focus your spleen a country and as proof you demonstrate that it has a free press and many citizens who are openly allowed to disagree with the government. What does that say about democracy?...
The closest I've read recently, to what you all seem to want, was an op-ed in Haaretz.
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Israel probably has more journalists per square km than anywhere else on earth. It's the only truly free press in that part of the world, so they all congregate there.
Qatar would be next in that region but nowhere near as many there, it's only really got al jazeera, and not much after that, and no true guarantee of press freedom, unlike israel where the press enjoys constitutional protection backed up by an independent judiciary.
I note that al jazeera always had operations in israel, meanwhile it was banned by the palestinian authority until recently.
Qatar would be next in that region but nowhere near as many there, it's only really got al jazeera, and not much after that, and no true guarantee of press freedom, unlike israel where the press enjoys constitutional protection backed up by an independent judiciary.
I note that al jazeera always had operations in israel, meanwhile it was banned by the palestinian authority until recently.
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Here's a new Idea
Wonder why no one thought of this before:
http://www.aish.com/j/mm/Klavans_One-State_Solution.html
Wonder why no one thought of this before:
http://www.aish.com/j/mm/Klavans_One-State_Solution.html
Haha, that's funny. But it's actually true that muslims in Arab countries today would have greater religious freedom--and every other kind of freedom--if the entire Middle East were placed under Israeli control.
Freedom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjyTANSMRiw
Absolutely. I looked at that video and saw Israeli security forces intervening to defend his rights. Are you dumb enough to fail to distinguish between the state, and some nuts on the street? The Israeli state intervened there on the correct side, upholding his right to film, and to pass on the street unmolested by the wing nuts. In fact, when some of those wing nuts attempted to get violent with him, the security forces responded decisively to defend him from their interference.Freedom?
Good example of the sorts of guaranteed freedom you can expect from the Israeli state, as opposed to, say, Hamas.
Ali is right. How dare the Israeli police interfere with those guys rights to protest against some guy intentionally inciting a crowd to get a reaction for his film. Maybe they should change to be peaceful promoters of rights and freedoms like Syria, Egypt, Libya, and Bahrain and covertly thrown him in a prison, torture him, and confiscate the film.
The israeli police did exactly what I would expect the canadian police to do. Do you have any complaint about their intervention in this case? Seems they did a good job. Even though that guy was intentionally stirring shit with people they protected him.That puts all your comments in perspective, Fuji, if that is what you judge a free country to be.
Yes that's exactly whet I expect the police in a free country to do.
The police in your free country lead the journalist out of harms way. The police did not approach the mob and arrest anyone who was pushing or threatening. This wasn't one or two wingnuts, it was the general populace in this area, and they were all threatening. I would expect that in a truly free and non-racist society that this type of behaviour would not be tolerated in the least. In Canada, this would have been a front page racist riot, but in Israel, you're just proud of the fact the police were close enough to lead a journalist out of harms way so that he didn't stoned, which is a nearly daily event on both sides.The israeli police did exactly what I would expect the canadian police to do. Do you have any complaint about their intervention in this case? Seems they did a good job. Even though that guy was intentionally stirring shit with people they protected him.
Yes that's exactly whet I expect the police in a free country to do.
How is it an idiotic view. Other then the last couple sentences all he posted was indisputable facts. I know libtards like to ignore facts as a rule of thumb but you are embarrassing yourself with this comment.I don't think you have to look any farther than the OP to find an "idiotic view"
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