You are obviously right and the hundreds of million of people who appreciate(d) him have no sense.
What were we thinking?
October 9th 2010 would have been John Lennon's 70th birthday.
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What were we thinking?
Right there with you asn, the beatles and john lennon's success was all about timing, nothing more. You want longevity in music look at U2. They have done more than the beatles every could, especially with using their position to highlight world issues. They are the real heros over the past 27 yrs in music.
I love U2. Talent and ability wise - I think they're the greatest band going right now, arguably in the history of rock. (BTW, U2 have been putting albums out since 1980 with "Boy" which adds up to 31 years.)
But the Beatles had more of an influence on both music and society than U2 ever did or ever will. (Just being honest.) I love the Beatles, and John was my favourite Beatle because he was the intellectual one and I identified with his music more so than the more pop-like music of Paul. John wore his heart on his sleeve. He was complicated, he was honest, he was fucked up, he was a loner, a comedian, a spokesman, he was the guy who would say, "hey wait a minute"
The Beatles put out music in North American from 1964 to 1970. I think in 1964 they put out 7 albums. U2 puts out 1 album every five years.
http://www.iamthebeatles.com/article1320.html
There is no denying them their place in music history which in my Opinion is No. 1. (No-one, I repeat no-one can equal what they did in the time that they did it.)
Lastly, in my 40 some odd years, I've seen a lot of celebrities and politicians and famous people die. Of all of those famous passings - none made the world stop spinning for only a moment as did John's death. People in every corner of the earth stop and took note. From New York to London to Moscow to Bejing people stopped to remember John Lennon.
Rest in Peace John, you went way too soon.
[size=+2] "I'm not exaggerating to say that. This music changed the shape of the room. It changed the shape of the world outside the room; the way you looked out the window and what you were looking at."
-- Bono on listening to John Lennon[/size]
You will not find a bigger U2 devotee than yours truly. I have never missed a Toronto U2 date and have seen them in other cities as well. I met Bono once and needless to say it was one of the most interesting conversations I ever had in my life.
There is no U2 without the Beatles. Bono has picked up the ball that Lennon was forced to drop. Every single song writer worth their salt will always tip their hat in reverence to the genius of John Lennon. He's still the one who pushed the envelope of contemporary music to a whole new level of awareness. Did he cure cancer? No, of course not. He did however soothe the pain of many people with cancer when they listened to his music. My Mother (rest her soul) passed away from cancer and I'll never forget the moment as I was sitting by her bedside and "In My Life" came on the CD we were listening to. I held her hand as we both sang along to the song which meant as much to me now as it did to her in youth with the Beatles in their heyday. A moment for my soul, if you will.
John Lennon is an original inspiration. A musical maverick. A force of nature that lived in a time period when his creative expression could be recorded and documented. The world is a better place for this.
He inspired that which is most important in many a human being: awareness and responsibility.
Few, very few musicians can inspire such heights.
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Great posts by Don and Kirk, however, I am afraid that there are those, who because they didn't live the experience, A) have no appreciation for what happened, which is understandable and B) regrettably cannot acknowledge the fact that just because they (admittedly) don't get it, that others may actually know what they are talking about.
I just blocked my second TERB member in 10 years (the first one was harassing me with PM's).
Ironhead, congratulations. You are Number 2.
Blocked for "General Stupidity"
Ironhead, congratulations. You are Number 2.
Blocked for "General Stupidity"
Then you don't understand how his sentencing works. Parole is the only way he can get out. His sentence was 20 years to life. This means that after 20 years he gets a parole hearing, and if denied release has a new parole hearing every two years, much like Charles Manson. Chapman's request for parole has been turned down every two years since 2000 and was denied again this year. What's surprising is that his conviction was for 2nd degree murder. Why the prosecutors didn't go for 1st degree when this was clearly premeditated, I have no idea.
Lennon
Being an elder statesman, I remember vividly where I was, what I was doing, when I heard of Lennon's death. Just as I remember where I was, what I was doing at other VERY important happenings during my life, such as Kennedy's shooting and 9/11. Yes, it's THAT important to remember Lennon. As Bono noted, U2 wouldn't exist except for Lennon and if the truth be known, many bands have The Beatles to thank for there very existence. The Beatles changed the face of music and Lennon was an integral part of that change. Just my 2 cents worth.
Happy Gobble, gobble day
Being an elder statesman, I remember vividly where I was, what I was doing, when I heard of Lennon's death. Just as I remember where I was, what I was doing at other VERY important happenings during my life, such as Kennedy's shooting and 9/11. Yes, it's THAT important to remember Lennon. As Bono noted, U2 wouldn't exist except for Lennon and if the truth be known, many bands have The Beatles to thank for there very existence. The Beatles changed the face of music and Lennon was an integral part of that change. Just my 2 cents worth.
Happy Gobble, gobble day
I really do not care one way or the other whether Chapman ever sees the light of day as a free man again.
I think every person, prisoners included, should all be treated equally. Chapman shot and killed one person. He has served 30 year which is more then enough and should be released.
So you celebrate the birthday of a dead person ? I see.
I could not be number one so I will settle for number two.
Get your thumb out of your mouth and quit crying. Some people can not handle a difference of opinion. Jeez, what a whiny fuck nut.
I could not care less whatever list I am placed on. I do not discriminate against any one's right to an opinion. Everyone may state their opinion on everything. I have mine and I realize I am in the minority on this subject.
No I am not a New York City attorney and do not have first hand knowledge on New York State law.
You may very well be correct. I thought the possibility of parole would and after the 20 year mark. In any event, on parole or not, I feel he has served his time and should be freed.
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Keep all murderers behind bars, with the same charge/conviction, for the same amount of time.
I have my opinion, you all have yours, we disagree.
If this really mattered to me I would not be yapping about it here on an Toronto Escort site. I would be in the New York City petitioning for Chapman's release.
I do not believe a person should be treated differently because he killed a pop idol as opposed to a regular citizen. The law must apply equally to everyone or our society and the laws we live by are a farce.
I really could not care less about the fate of Chapman.
You're not on the parole board either. You still don't seem to get it. He got 20 years to life. After serving the minimum sentence he has the opportunity to present his case every two years as to why he should be released. It's been rejected every time, I believe unanimously. He hasn't served his time, he has served the minimum. His situation is not particularly unique. There are scores of murderers who are denied parole every year.
Your posts more than belie that.
Clearly one half of the greatest song-writing team of the 20th century.
He also died and left his son Julian with ZERO. It all went to Yoko & Sean.
What did Julian ever do to him? Nothing. So why did John forget his own son in his will? Why does Sean get to live like a king and Julian does not?
The only conclusion is that as a father, John Lennon, great artist, is a complete and total douche bag.
Cause Yoko wrote the will.
Julian has received a payout from the estate and also owned shares in Lennon's music.
John never had a father of his own either.
I am not a lawyer nor a member of any parole board. True.
Again, I feel he has served his time whether or not the ones who count, the parole board of NYC / NY, agree or not. Whether it be on parole or outright released I believe he should be out of prison.
It is my firm belief that he is now serving time because of who he murdered and not just the fact that he murdered.
Wow you are weak. You cannot seem to except that I have a different opinion. Like I said previously, if this really mattered to me I would have been in NYC at the appropriate time. The subject came up and several people gave their opinion, I was one just giving my opinion.
You are absolutely correct, our opinions do not matter what so ever.
Next time let everyone know that this thread is for 'a love in' and only "fans of" should participate.
As for my 'handle' I admired the man who carried the nickname. He was a good guy.
