KD,If you don't like hip hop fine. If you think it isn't real music, ok that's your opinion. But I don't wanna hear it. KD
I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL
Gyaos Baltar.
KD,If you don't like hip hop fine. If you think it isn't real music, ok that's your opinion. But I don't wanna hear it. KD
Terrorist crap???KD,
I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL
Gyaos Baltar.
Yep, they were great. Big Daddy Kane, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Remember Special Ed's "I'm the Magnificent"? Lol!-big daddy kane, heavy d including our own torontonian maestro with "let your backbone slide"
I didn't hear any hip hop in that.
There are plenty of great lyricists in hip hop.Yep, but he could write. Same with Neil Young, bizzare voice but great song writer. How many hip hop tracks will still be on radio 25 years from now?
I'm a hip hop boy
Ain't no bitch's toy
My pants hang low
Walk'in wit my ass hung low
I'm a rapperThere are plenty of great lyricists in hip hop.
I agree with you that you can't put rappers in the same category as musicians/singers though. Writing an actual song is different from looping a break and rapping over it, playing an instrument is different from holding a mic, and singing is different from rapping. Hip-hop is something that is more suitable for an English class rather than a music class. Still, some rappers and their songs are very clever, sound very good, and are artistically superior to bad music written by bad musicians (and mediocre ones).
Oh, and let's not get caught up in hip-hop/rap distinctions. Rapping is talking and rhyming without musical backdrop. "Rap music" and hip-hop are interchangeable.
Ice Ice Baby, from a musical standpoint, is actually one of the more musical hip hop songs. In fact, from a musical standpoint it's probably one of the very best hip hop songs. The chorus is clever, the bassline and beat is solid, the Queen sample is a good one, and the change-up of the bass line in the later part of the song also very good. If Vanilla Ice hadn't been a suburban phony and was a better lyricist, that song would be considered one of the greatest in hip-hop, easily. I don't know who produced the track, but it is an exceptional hip-hop track.If someone can intelligently explain to me why they think hip hop and/or rap is not music, please tell me why. I thought music involves singing and/or the use of instruments that produce notes in a rhythmic fashion, that is pleasing to the ears and mind. Now if you don't like the musical genre that's cool, nobody is going to force to you appreciate it if you don't like it, but many, many people do enjoy the sounds produced in this musical art form, and that's really the point of what constitutes music or not.
So to those who don't think hip hop/rap isn't music, please give me an intelligent reason as to why they feel that way. I'm actually kind of curious to hear your responses.
I know sometimes that may be questionable (as in Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby, or anything from Justin Beiber), but sad as it may seem, they are musicians as well. The fact that you may want to shoot them out of a cannon is besides the point.
I'll do you one better. Tell me if this makes any sense to you:I'm a rapper
I ain't no sapper
Work'in five ta eight
Fillin other peoples plates
That's the point I was trying to make.I agree with you that you can't put rappers in the same category as musicians/singers though.
Oh, and let's not get caught up in hip-hop/rap distinctions. Rapping is talking and rhyming without musical backdrop. "Rap music" and hip-hop are interchangeable.
The Bear does not need to sell 75 million CD's to have "made it".I'll do you one better. Tell me if this makes any sense to you:
Here come old flattop, he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball, he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
He wear no shoeshine, he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger, he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me
He bag production, he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard, he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me
Even nonsense can be part of a great song.
From a lyrical standpoint you clearly haven't given hip-hop's finest a chance. Listen to Tupac, Jay-Z, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T, BDP, Eminem, then get back to me.
Or let us know when "great bear" sells 75 million records worldwide with your lyrics. 2pac and eminem have, so can you. Go for it kiddo!
True.That's the point I was trying to make.
Rap is like reading poetry with a beat behind it, not true music.
While Hip Hop is a musical genre covering many flavors going back to upbeat Jazz, Be Bop, Jitterbug, R&B, and even Reggae.
This Jamaican tune posted kind of combines an early form of Rap with an upbeat Reggae flavor that could be viewed as an early Hip Hop variant.
Harry Belafonte & Nat King Cole
Yeah (sigh) I must admit to liking it back in the day as well, then hating it, and then liking it because it is a throwback to the 90's, but can we agree that Justin Beiber should be shot out of a canon?Ice Ice Baby, from a musical standpoint, is actually one of the more musical hip hop songs. In fact, from a musical standpoint it's probably one of the very best hip hop songs. The chorus is clever, the baseline and beat is solid, the Queen sample is a good one, and the change-up of the baseline in the later part of the song also very good. If Vanilla Ice hadn't been a suburban phony and was a better lyricist, that song would be considered one of the greatest in hip-hop, easily. I don't know who produced the track, but it is an exceptional hip-hop track.
Love the Hip-Hop/R&B fusion. I believe it's called Neo-Soul. I can't get enough it!Yeah Blaze, I feel you on that one. Gina Thompson was sick back in the day.
Here are some of my favs from that time:
Yvette Michelle's I'm Not Feeling You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opgllgc_lOw
Mona Lisa'a Can't be Wasting My Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBDJTuGoKU
Tracy Lee's the Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rheYPRzn8Xo
Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz Uptown Anthem (before Shakira descrated the beginning):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_0QReTPkc
Timbaland and Magoo's Love to Love ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYbjai1itQQ
SWV's Someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDDZwug_N8
BIG's One more Chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ3Z9t9NeM
Foxy Brown's Get me home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_b8v4hywk
Dru Hill's in my bed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jex26BlCl5Q
Next's Too Close:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHH23QYX9Yc
Busta Rhyme's Fire it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBcBx0R_yAo
Busta's
Put your hands where I can see em:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnaD-WPqCec&feature=related
Man it takes me back to a good time.
Dude,Terrorist crap???
Have you been talking to some of then bible thumping, born agains????.....
I always thought they were just strung out on crack or some other drugs....
Will Smith is a terrorist?Dude,
All wrappers are terrorists.
Gyaos.
Then we have positive proof Karl Rove is a terroristDude,
All wrappers are terrorists.
Gyaos.
Here's one for you GBI'm a rapper
I ain't no sapper
Work'in five ta eight
Fillin other peoples plates
I nominate this for idotic post of the year. Can I get a seconder??KD,
I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL
Gyaos Baltar.