Best Era of Hip Hop

[Gyaos]

If you don't like hip hop fine. If you think it isn't real music, ok that's your opinion. But I don't wanna hear it. KD

KD,

I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL

Gyaos Baltar.

 

[WoodPeckr]

KD,

I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL

Gyaos Baltar.

Terrorist crap???
Have you been talking to some of then bible thumping, born agains????.....

I always thought they were just strung out on crack or some other drugs....

 

[whynot888]

-big daddy kane, heavy d including our own torontonian maestro with "let your backbone slide"

 

[winstar]

-big daddy kane, heavy d including our own torontonian maestro with "let your backbone slide"

Yep, they were great. Big Daddy Kane, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. Remember Special Ed's "I'm the Magnificent"? Lol!

Say what you will, but I'm not afraid to say I was a big Kool Moe Dee fan back in the day - "How ya like me now?" jokes!

 

[GotGusto]

Harry Belafonte & Nat King Cole

I didn't hear any hip hop in that.

 

[GotGusto]

Yep, but he could write. Same with Neil Young, bizzare voice but great song writer. How many hip hop tracks will still be on radio 25 years from now?

I'm a hip hop boy
Ain't no bitch's toy
My pants hang low
Walk'in wit my ass hung low

There are plenty of great lyricists in hip hop.

I agree with you that you can't put rappers in the same category as musicians/singers though. Writing an actual song is different from looping a break and rapping over it, playing an instrument is different from holding a mic, and singing is different from rapping. Hip-hop is something that is more suitable for an English class rather than a music class. Still, some rappers and their songs are very clever, sound very good, and are artistically superior to bad music written by bad musicians (and mediocre ones).

Oh, and let's not get caught up in hip-hop/rap distinctions. Rapping is talking and rhyming without musical backdrop. "Rap music" and hip-hop are interchangeable.

 

[great bear]

There are plenty of great lyricists in hip hop.

I agree with you that you can't put rappers in the same category as musicians/singers though. Writing an actual song is different from looping a break and rapping over it, playing an instrument is different from holding a mic, and singing is different from rapping. Hip-hop is something that is more suitable for an English class rather than a music class. Still, some rappers and their songs are very clever, sound very good, and are artistically superior to bad music written by bad musicians (and mediocre ones).

Oh, and let's not get caught up in hip-hop/rap distinctions. Rapping is talking and rhyming without musical backdrop. "Rap music" and hip-hop are interchangeable.

I'm a rapper
I ain't no sapper
Work'in five ta eight
Fillin other peoples plates

 

[GotGusto]

If someone can intelligently explain to me why they think hip hop and/or rap is not music, please tell me why. I thought music involves singing and/or the use of instruments that produce notes in a rhythmic fashion, that is pleasing to the ears and mind. Now if you don't like the musical genre that's cool, nobody is going to force to you appreciate it if you don't like it, but many, many people do enjoy the sounds produced in this musical art form, and that's really the point of what constitutes music or not.

So to those who don't think hip hop/rap isn't music, please give me an intelligent reason as to why they feel that way. I'm actually kind of curious to hear your responses.

I know sometimes that may be questionable (as in Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby, or anything from Justin Beiber), but sad as it may seem, they are musicians as well. The fact that you may want to shoot them out of a cannon is besides the point.

Ice Ice Baby, from a musical standpoint, is actually one of the more musical hip hop songs. In fact, from a musical standpoint it's probably one of the very best hip hop songs. The chorus is clever, the bassline and beat is solid, the Queen sample is a good one, and the change-up of the bass line in the later part of the song also very good. If Vanilla Ice hadn't been a suburban phony and was a better lyricist, that song would be considered one of the greatest in hip-hop, easily. I don't know who produced the track, but it is an exceptional hip-hop track.

 

[GotGusto]

I'm a rapper
I ain't no sapper
Work'in five ta eight
Fillin other peoples plates

I'll do you one better. Tell me if this makes any sense to you:

Here come old flattop, he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball, he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine, he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger, he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production, he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard, he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me

Even nonsense can be part of a great song.

From a lyrical standpoint you clearly haven't given hip-hop's finest a chance. Listen to Tupac, Jay-Z, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T, BDP, Eminem, then get back to me.

Or let us know when "great bear" sells 75 million records worldwide with your lyrics. 2pac and eminem have, so can you. Go for it kiddo!

 

[WoodPeckr]

I agree with you that you can't put rappers in the same category as musicians/singers though.

Oh, and let's not get caught up in hip-hop/rap distinctions. Rapping is talking and rhyming without musical backdrop. "Rap music" and hip-hop are interchangeable.

That's the point I was trying to make.
Rap is like reading poetry with a beat behind it, not true music.
While Hip Hop is a musical genre covering many flavors going back to upbeat Jazz, Be Bop, Jitterbug, R&B, and even Reggae.

This Jamaican tune posted kind of combines an early form of Rap with an upbeat Reggae flavor that could be viewed as an early Hip Hop variant.
Harry Belafonte & Nat King Cole

 

[great bear]

I'll do you one better. Tell me if this makes any sense to you:

Here come old flattop, he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball, he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please

He wear no shoeshine, he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger, he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me

He bag production, he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard, he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me

Even nonsense can be part of a great song.

From a lyrical standpoint you clearly haven't given hip-hop's finest a chance. Listen to Tupac, Jay-Z, Big Daddy Kane, Ice-T, BDP, Eminem, then get back to me.

Or let us know when "great bear" sells 75 million records worldwide with your lyrics. 2pac and eminem have, so can you. Go for it kiddo!

The Bear does not need to sell 75 million CD's to have "made it".

PS The Bear owns Em&M and Tupac CD's

 

[winstar]

That's the point I was trying to make.
Rap is like reading poetry with a beat behind it, not true music.
While Hip Hop is a musical genre covering many flavors going back to upbeat Jazz, Be Bop, Jitterbug, R&B, and even Reggae.

This Jamaican tune posted kind of combines an early form of Rap with an upbeat Reggae flavor that could be viewed as an early Hip Hop variant.
Harry Belafonte & Nat King Cole

True.

Or....

Rappers are tone deaf singers.

Either way, me's like it!

 

[winstar]

Ice Ice Baby, from a musical standpoint, is actually one of the more musical hip hop songs. In fact, from a musical standpoint it's probably one of the very best hip hop songs. The chorus is clever, the baseline and beat is solid, the Queen sample is a good one, and the change-up of the baseline in the later part of the song also very good. If Vanilla Ice hadn't been a suburban phony and was a better lyricist, that song would be considered one of the greatest in hip-hop, easily. I don't know who produced the track, but it is an exceptional hip-hop track.

Yeah (sigh) I must admit to liking it back in the day as well, then hating it, and then liking it because it is a throwback to the 90's, but can we agree that Justin Beiber should be shot out of a canon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-qQdw7Xpv4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN_RIzKY2PU&feature=related

Disney meets rap. I feel like I am watching a mini pop kid from k-tel.

 

[great bear]

The first person to ever record a rap was a gentleman named "Cassius Clay"
He cut a 33 1/3 LP "long playing record for the kiddies on this site) back in the late 1960's. Cassius until he changed his name to Muhammad Ali used to taunt his foes before his fights using rap. The Bear owns one of these very rare LP's.

 

[Fireflint]

Yeah Blaze, I feel you on that one. Gina Thompson was sick back in the day.

Here are some of my favs from that time:

Yvette Michelle's I'm Not Feeling You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opgllgc_lOw

Mona Lisa'a Can't be Wasting My Time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEBDJTuGoKU

Tracy Lee's the Theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rheYPRzn8Xo

Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz Uptown Anthem (before Shakira descrated the beginning):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_0QReTPkc

Timbaland and Magoo's Love to Love ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYbjai1itQQ

SWV's Someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDDZwug_N8

BIG's One more Chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ3Z9t9NeM

Foxy Brown's Get me home:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_b8v4hywk

Dru Hill's in my bed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jex26BlCl5Q

Next's Too Close:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHH23QYX9Yc

Busta Rhyme's Fire it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBcBx0R_yAo

Busta's
Put your hands where I can see em:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnaD-WPqCec&feature=related

Man it takes me back to a good time.

Love the Hip-Hop/R&B fusion. I believe it's called Neo-Soul. I can't get enough it!

 

[Gyaos]

Terrorist crap???
Have you been talking to some of then bible thumping, born agains????.....
I always thought they were just strung out on crack or some other drugs....

Dude,

All wrappers are terrorists.

Gyaos.

 

[David Beckham 23]

Dude,

All wrappers are terrorists.

Gyaos.

Will Smith is a terrorist?

 

[WoodPeckr]

Dude,

All wrappers are terrorists.

Gyaos.

Then we have positive proof Karl Rove is a terrorist

Karl Rove Rapping It Up

Always suspected that POS....

 

[Back Burner]

I'm a rapper
I ain't no sapper
Work'in five ta eight
Fillin other peoples plates

Here's one for you GB

If your hoped we wouldn't make it, fuck you
Talk with a heart full of hatred, fuck you
And you said we wouldn't cake it, fuck you
Only my man blood is sacred, cocksucker, fuck you

I'll tell you in your face, fuck you
Pull it off my waist, hit you up, fuck you
And watch you die on the street, fuck you
Whoever feel sad at the funeral, fuck them too!!



Hmm...I think I found my new sig!

 

[K Douglas]

KD,

I don't want to hear terrorist music like hip hop, or rap (which is terrorist crap) either. LOL

Gyaos Baltar.

I nominate this for idotic post of the year. Can I get a seconder??