Rule Number 1 of Fight Club..

[moviefan]

I'm the first to admit to being a "dim bulb" but I still like the Kya_Jean Compromise.

As others have noted, there's a clear divide among those of us who have posted. Some folks are comfortable with reviewers who have disclosed their real identities, others (like me) are not.

Personally, I don't share Kya_Jean's view that there's nothing wrong with a reviewer disclosing his identity (I guess my position is obvious by now).

But I do agree that if the reviewer is transparent and publicly acknowledges in the review that the SP (and/or agency) knows him -- well, at least the information has been disclosed and I can decide for myself whether or not to pay attention to the review.

 

[Rockslinger]

then the interest group most likely to lose out by a non-functioning review system is CLIENTS. Duh! The pool of information represented by terb is the only real quality control mechanism available.

Agree with the above but I think the good quality escorts would also lose out because the clients will not know who is good and who is awful. Maybe we then need a "Consumer Digest" system where we send in impartial "testers" and they report back.

 

[nolabel]

Agree with the above but I think the good quality escorts would also lose out because the clients will not know who is good and who is awful. Maybe we then need a "Consumer Digest" system where we send in impartial "testers" and they report back.

I'm sure you're volunteering for that job! Puts wine tasting to shame, anyway! And agreed, if all reviews get 'flattened', in the sense that everyone sees them as the product of a kick-back, then you start to lose the ability to distinguish good, bad, and in between. Better escorts thus lose out. This is part of what I mean by lose-lose.

In case it is not obvious, my only issue is making sure the reviews on terb stay what they mostly are at present - honest attempts to provide worthwhile guides. I'm just chipping away at what I regard as obstacles to that, and I acknowledge that my argument might not be self-evident.

 

[nolabel]

I'm the first to admit to being a "dim bulb" but I still like the Kya_Jean Compromise . . . Some folks are comfortable with reviewers who have disclosed their real identities, others (like me) are not . . . But I do agree that if the reviewer is transparent and publicly acknowledges in the review that the SP (and/or agency) knows him -- well, at least the information has been disclosed and I can decide for myself whether or not to pay attention to the review.

I should not have said anything about dim bulbs, moviefan. I apologize. I wrote it out quickly and I tend to have an ascerbic wit when I get going. We have some differences of opinion in the thread which are for the most part reasonable differences. I would just add here that there is surely a difference between explicitly trying to use your terb handle for session leverage, and then subsequently writing glowing reviews, and innocently saying 'yes' when asked if you heard of the SP through terb. In the latter case, as another poster noted, one can just treat it as a question to verify advertising efficiency, after which one just moves on (changes topic). So I think, as you point out, disclosing is possible and potentially no real issue. Jst don't turn disclosure into blackmail, is what I would say!

 

[Rockslinger]

my only issue is making sure the reviews on terb stay what they mostly are at present - honest attempts to provide worthwhile guides.

Maybe the existing review system, while not perfect, works fairly well and does a decent job.

Now can we turn our attention to agency or indie contests where the winner is either not identified or is someone who just joined on October 21, 2009 or somebody who nobody has ever heard of?

 

[moviefan]

Now can we turn our attention to agency or indie contests where the winner is either not identified or is someone who just joined on October 21, 2009 or somebody who nobody has ever heard of?

What has that got to do with the current state of Edward Norton's career?

 

[Manji]

They would see you belong to terb, that's enough to get you better service.
The hypocritical part is the veteran terb members who say "don't mention terb", yet go to these functions and get recognized by all the girls.

I don't feel strongly about this, the cat's been out of the bag for a few years. The part I don't like is when every single girl get's 10's in looks and service, some don't differentiate between the great, the pretty good and the so-so girls.

"Hypocrites"? Who are you talking about?

I would consider myself a Veteran Terb member (had another handle since 2000 or 2001)....

I believe in keeping my TERB identity hidden....
I have never gone to a TERB party or any sort of TERB function...
Never set up appointments throught PMs....
And I keep my reviews simple and to the point....No bragging and no embellishments I try to keep it informative and will provide any additional info through PMs....
I don't even review right away....I wait 2 to 3 weeks before I write a review so the SP and agency can't figure it out who it is....
And I do hobby frequently (when I'm in between girlfriends) - enough that some agency owners/bookers know who I am if I reveal my name and/or address (never mentioned TERB to them as well)...

 

[Manji]

Obviously the scum like 7.5 and Ballzdeep have deep contempt for women.

I have to agree with Shack that this post definitely ranks as one the dumbest post in this thread....


There's no need for a comment like that....

 

[Brill]

I wasn't referring to you at all, Manji. Read again.

The hypocritical part is the veteran terb members who say "don't mention terb", yet go to these functions and get recognized by all the girls.

It's clear you don't mention terb when seeing the girls. You don't go to the functions either.

 

[Manji]

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See this is why I said to get rid of the number ratings all together. I have written my "write a review" article on my blog. It was a bit rushed, but it gives people a basic starting point if they really want to review for the right reasons.

There are a few other reasons for review writing, but that is a whole other topic all together.

If you want to see how to write a proper review.....Look up homonger's old reviews....

That man was a Legend on TERB....
He was a well respected member in the TERB community a few years back.....

He provided TERB with plenty of reviews. His reviews were concise yet extremely informative....

 

[Rockslinger]

What has that got to do with the current state of Edward Norton's career?

A feeble attempt to change the subject. Ok, back to our regularly scheduled program.

BTW: This thread is very informative. The mere mention of my TERB handle will guarantee me super superior service at a discounted price by any SP/MPA/dancer in the GTA.

 

[The Options Menu]

BTW: This thread is very informative. The mere mention of my TERB handle will guarantee me super superior service at a discounted price by any SP/MPA/dancer in the GTA.

I can only speak about dancers, but I know they think might lowly of TERB on balance. I've met more than one guy at a SC who loudly talked about this place, I've met more than guy talking to a dancer about this place, and I've had dancers ask about TERB and give opinions on the guys that talked about this place. In brief, it was never good except for one time when I was in the VIP with a (now retired?) dancer who used to post here...

"T-UU-RB? What is this thing you speak of?". Besides, my schtick is that I'm not a regular anyplace and I just kind of drifted in here (wherever here is) on a whim. Which is true as far as that goes, but TERB would undermine that.

 

[golfdude]

Golfdude, unless you have actually seen one of the ladies reviewed and have a dissenting opinion, then can you really come on here with a "critical analysis"?

Yes I can. It's pretty simple actually. I can read a posters reviews and see they are consistently jam packed full of superlatives, and then see that the poster in question is well known to most if not all of the agencies, and no doubt in turn the lady he is about to see is made aware of that fact. So then I analyze his reviews and determine it is like the teacher giving a student the answers to the test before she takes it, and then showering that student with praise in front of the rest of the class for getting a perfect score on the test.

To question positive reviews of extremely well-reviewed ladies is absurd.

Really? Actually a well reviewed lady is the easiest of all to shill. There are many forms of shilling, I believe most are focused on definition number 1.

shill
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–noun
1. a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2. a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

I am focusing on the second definition of the word shill. Perhaps using the word ADVERTISE instead of shill will make it easier for you to comprehend where I am coming from. Given the fact that FF and the frat pack are known to the agencies and their ladies, and the over the top nature of their posts, it is easy to think definition two is in play.

A well reviewed lady is the easiest to advertise because she already has a track record (however it may have been gotten). So you can just add to that track record. It keeps their names in the spotlight. I suspect that most who wonder on here only read the first few pages or so in any given forum, so it's important for a lady to be on the first few pages. In the advertisers forums you see some who will add a comment in their posts just so their thread gets bumped to the top.

FF and I have similar review styles, in that we go into more details with our experiences than most other reviewers. If anyone has a problem with my reviews going into too much details, they should skip the details that they find unecessary and hone in on the services, menu, that the SP offers.

You go into more details than most, yet in looking at your reviews one very important detail is left out of them, the cost of the sessions. It's interesting that for such detail oriented reviewers that detail is missing.

We really need to stop feeding the trolls...

I'm a troll? Dude you need to check my posting history. I have been on here for about 5 and a half years, and would love for you to show me how my posting history adds up to being a troll. Having an opinion contrary to yours does not make me a troll. I believe the original poster asked for EVERYONE"S opinion, not just one's that fell in line with yours.

Damn and I thought you were one of the good guys. No need for those comments.

Your repeated comments of this nature are hilarious. You must lead a very sheltered life where everyone agrees with you and praises your every word, as anyone whose opinion is different from yours is a bad person. In the adult world not everyone shares the same opinion and that doesn't make them bad, or a troll, it just means they disagree with you. I believe the original poster asked for ALL opinions, not just those that fell in line with yours.

I'm a firm believer of the Number One Rule of Fight Club when it comes to TERB....
I keep the fact that I'm a member of TERB a secret....SPs/MPs have mentioned or asked about TERB and I always act like I never heard about it.....
Revealing that you are a member of TERB hurts the credibility of your reviews and you can clearly see that members are adding embellishments (most sensual and passionate sex ever) or hiding certain facts (like she's gained weight) or inflating the numbers (face is rated higher than it should be) so you won't hurt the SPs' feelings....


It seems whenever a TERB member reveals himself to an SP or MP he's working an angle whether he wants to admit it or not....Whether it is to try to gain better service or it could be he just doesn't have anything interesting to talk about and brings up TERB to make himself sound more interesting....

I guess we must be Wiley E. Coyote type super geniuses for being able to remain anonymous for almost 6 years. And I've been able to do it under one and only one handle the whole time, something I know a few others in this thread can't claim.

In that respect, I do agree with Manji's post above. The line became blurred a long time ago, and to the people involved, it has become ingrained and they see nothing wrong with it.

On the other side of the fence are the guys who still follow the original TERB mantra and are frustrated that sometimes, " A review isn't a review" but rather an attempt at entering a story to Penthouse Forums.

You can add me to that list. I think that in the time that I have been here on TERB it is at it's all time worst in what you have described above. TERB and the truth have never been synonymous, but it has strayed the farthest away from being synonymous as it has ever been, I'm just trying to help give it a nudge back closer.

 

[Kya_Jean]

Apologies to those few kiss arses who bleated on about how miraculously intelligent this post was, but sorry, it wasn't. Wake up, terbnutters . . . if this whole hobby has three interest groups - clients, SP's, agencies - then the interest group most likely to lose out by a non-functioning review system is CLIENTS. Duh! The pool of information represented by terb is the only real quality control mechanism available.

Here's the part that appears to be escaping some of the dimmer bulbs around here . . . When the reviewer is known to be taking a kick-back from the one reviewed, then most commentary on reviewing systems say that review system is breaking down or being robbed of legitimacy. Case in point: pharmaceutical companies that give stock options or cash to doctors who write favourable reviews of the company product. Result? Widespread distrust of drug companies and much fraud and misrepresentation by those companies.

Of course, maybe KJ is smarter than I am giving her credit for here? Maybe she realizes that many terbites are pretty dim, and that if she sucks them into helping turn the review process into a known kick-back system, that is likely to relieve any real quality control measure on SP's and agencies. If this is so, then kudos to KJ for duping you tools! But come on, lads, think it through.

Let me try and get out a version of what I'm thinking. A dry run, ask for clarifications before you rail against it:
- Explicitly using your terb handle for session leverage is like a race to the bottom. Eventually no-one will trust the reviews, because everyone knows they are all tainted. Now, individual clients will get some extra special service at some stage, maybe, so yippee. But of course some of us appreciate the surprise-factor. But anyway . . . Eventually, members-in-the-know will have to rely on PM's to know the truth - their pool of reliable info shrinks to those they PM. Newer members will start finding mass discrepancies between the reviews and their experience, and ditch terb. So much for the impacts on clients. A proviso is that, of course, sometimes real identies get out. But when that happens accidentally, and is not linked to a system of kick-backs, then the larger pool of authentic reviews can swamp the odd exception. But also, the buck doesn't stop with clients. Eventually SP's will also find less and less 'socialized' clients (ie.: never read the do's and don't, etc), and advertisers will begin to lose access to potentially 'loyal' and repeat cleints. Lose-lose. Get it? Lose-lose. But clients lose first and they lose the most.

So . . . ignore KJ saying no agreement about a review system exists. Baloney. Sharing reliable information is valued. Shilling and bullshit is not. And don't forget that exchanging your terb handle for extra service just is blackmail. Maybe not all SP's are OK with that? But also, are you, as a client, OK with that? Paying and blackmailing are different. The former gets you into a game-like situation where you hope to do well, get a good experience, make a connection, etc, in the context of good times that you walk away from easily. The latter is cheap, in all of its senses, because your doubling up on the lack of authenticity and you know it. Is that really that satisfying?

WOW - That was quite defensive. I apologize for pissing you off hon, but when you can show me a clear working review style that ALL of you clients agree with, I would be happy to eat crow.

I have seen been on many review boards. Ones that have template reviews, databasing reviews, personally written reviews, and ones that have combos and nothing is agreed upon. Not only that but it still does not fix or address the issue of providers knowing the clients and therefore being on their "A" game.

Also, not all handle sharing is blackmail. What about the guy who just uses the PM system to book his appointments. He is already here. One quick search shows he is a reviewer and BAM, you have a guy getting great service, and a provider getting a great review. No blackmail, no nothing.

I am purposing that if the hobbyist is a known reviewer at the time of booking, then he should let you, his fellow hobbyist know that.

I am talking about HONEST reviews. This game of getting better service has been going on for years. I am not trying to make reviews to be apart of some kick back system. I never once said that, so please don't put words in my mouth. What I am saying is we know the game that goes on, so share that with your brothers. I am actually trying to help. So maybe you can be less defensive and read what I actually wrote.

It is your fellow brothers that fuck you over when they don't divulge this type of info, not the SP. And BTW - escorting was a round long before reviews and I can bet the bank it will still be here without them. Just FYI.

 

[FunnyFace]

I am focusing on the second definition of the word shill. Perhaps using the word ADVERTISE instead of shill will make it easier for you to comprehend where I am coming from. Given the fact that FF and the frat pack are known to the agencies and their ladies, and the over the top nature of their posts, it is easy to think definition two is in play.

Thats why we have tons of members are crying for they got burned because "Frat Pack" reviews right? Not happy reviews after their posts..But who cares those happy people.. Thats why everytime "Frat Pack" post a review, gets reply as "Bang on" "Spot on" from new members, old members, reviewer or not reviewer... and same lady gets similar reviews right after "Frat Pack"'s reviews from any level of members.. No body cares those... Some of us has this idea.. My way or no way...

If a reviewer is not a old-school reviewer than he gets name being Frat Pack.. thats very mature..

As Kya said... If someone uses their handle with blackmail... lets kick them out here and post their handles so people will know...

But mixing oranges with apples will not help anything.. You have your way to have fun.. i have my way to have fun.. if you cant accept it.. sorry i cant help you there..

Words from a very popular SP.. retired long time ago.. " %95 clients mentions Terb in their session in one way or another.."

Truth hurts sometimes!

Thats it for me.. I will not reply this thread anymore..

 

[Bear669]

I am no Christian and do NOT turn the other cheek

I have to agree with Shack that this post definitely ranks as one the dumbest post in this thread....


There's no need for a comment like that....

These two, and others of their ilk-

Have no sense of logic or the English language. They make up meanings to suit their own distorted views of the world.

Despite NO vestige of fact, they repeatedly call me a shill, which is offensive

Despite NO vestige of fact, some scum have publicly called me a pimp, which is VERY rude, and I would cheerfully chain such creatures and dump them in a septic tank

and MOST offensive- they indirectly and directly disrespect wonderful women as they splatter around their feces at me and others.

 

[7.5]

These two, and others of their ilk-

Have no sense of logic or the English language. They make up meanings to suit their own distorted views of the world.

Despite NO vestige of fact, they repeatedly call me a shill, which is offensive

Despite NO vestige of fact, some scum have publicly called me a pimp, which is VERY rude, and I would cheerfully chain such creatures and dump them in a septic tank

and MOST offensive- they indirectly and directly disrespect wonderful women as they splatter around their feces at me and others.

bLAH BLAH BLAH.

Write yet another review on those pink chicks papa bear

And seeing as you have been told already that your post is as lame as your reviews of those pink girls you always seem to review.......

here is a heart felt .....BLOW ME

 

[7.5]

Words from a very popular SP.. retired long time ago.. " %95 clients mentions Terb in their session in one way or another.."

Who was this SP? Did she see anyone other then you and your band of shills before making the 95% comment? 95%...please. You think we all dont know crap when we see it?

 

[7.5]

I'm sure you said you were done here...

You should have locked it knowing these 4 shills would keep trying to make us see thir "light".. If the shills in this thread( all 4 of them) are so pissed that they need to keep posting crap like I have contempt for women, just because I have called them a shill...they can take my barbs then.

 

[Bear669]

You would put your dick in a Bear's jaws!

bLAH BLAH BLAH.

.........................

here is a heart felt .....BLOW ME

As pointed out in another post- 7.5=IQ