Women with extremely high standards

[angrymime666]

I see what young men are doing with themselves these days. I see what opportunities they have as well. A lot of them come from families of divorce. Opportunities for young men are not as plentiful as girls. A culture that has told men they are toxic and being masculine and a man is somehow bad. That men are the problem.

As a result we walk away and do what is best for us. We don't strive to achieve, since no matter how hard you try is good enough. We have to be top performers, only to realize that no matter how hard you perform it will never be enough by our partner.

As a man I have come to understand that it is impossible feat to fulfill the needs of a woman on many levels. Financially, emotionally, lifestyle, aesthetically and so on. Even when you do eventually a new need to fulfill is required. It's a neverending cycle.

Granted in past, fulfillment was to achievable. Provide a home and stable income, have kids, live a modest life, treat your wife well.

For young men they can provide a stable income but its average. They cant afford a luxury lifestyle. They don't want to get married since most have seen the horror of divorce. They don't want kids since they can afford them, or are willing to lose them through divorce.

Why be a workhorse for 40years when the benefits of having the family and white picket fence is statistically not in your favour?

Nope it's a much more chill life to play vid games, smoke weed, live in your parents basement and beat off to porn.

Not how I choose to live my life(except for porn lol) but I understand the choice's they make

 

[shack]

These are also the women who consider each other "queen"....

Like on the SD/SB websites when the girls profile says, "...and I want to/expect to be treated like the princess I am". That's an automatic swipe left for me.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

According to them, you must be at least 6'5", work out and be in great shape, and be very wealthy.

Why do they ALWAYS look like this 🤦‍♂️

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This isn’t true. Stop believing it and projecting Otherwise you will continuously be faced with women who think this way and challenge you

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

These women probably have an income of 30K per year. Aka gold diggers lol.

And wtf is wrong with Walmart groceries? I buy Walmart groceries.

Key word = probably. Stop ASSuming. Get into mining to better use your energy

 

[Vera.Reis]

I donno, I see plenty of women with men where I think "wtf" that guy a douche, or lazy, doesn't work hard etc

But people in general are more willing to stay single. I think the problem is people want someone at certain a level, but they aren't even attempting to get to that level as well.

I have a successful partner who makes over 6 figures, but I'm a law student who also makes good money, and I worked really hard to bring myself to a level that would make me more desirable to the type of partner I wanted

Then there's men with no ambition making less than 60k a year and not working towards promotions and think they deserve a woman who spends on average over 12k a year (averaging or large one time expenses that happen every few months like hair, botox, fillers) and countless hours on her appearance, has multiple degrees and a good job to appeal to a more desirable man.

We have an entitlement problem regardless of gender.

But as pointed about above, men use to need to just be mediocre to get a house wife, now you have to have a personality and treat women well too because they aren't reliant on you and so there's a bunch of men who watched their dads and grandpa's do shit but go to work and be assholes by had a woman still take care of them, and are expecting the same.

The flip side is the women who saw their moms and grandmas do everything around the house, raise the family and be treated like shit at best and abused at worst, and we said fuck that shit. We decided that if a man didn't bring xyz, tolerating that shit wasn't worth it. I stand on that for myself and spent large parts of my life happily single knowing what the alternative was if I settled.

And of course there are groups of women who think they can just be pretty and get everything they want, but imo at least they are doing something to make themselves more appealing even if it's not enough. Bcz if a woman was pretty but badly put together and clearly a slob, it wouldn't have the same effect on men.

At the end of day, there's people of all genders who think they don't need to work on themselves or develop a likeable personality, to deserve a quality partner those people will either need to adjust their standards, work on themselves or make peace with their decisions.

But what do I know, I'm in my 30s, my partner is in his 40s and the young people are scaring me tbh

 

[onomatopoeia]

I donno, I see plenty of women with men where I think "wtf" that guy a douche, or lazy, doesn't work hard etc

Those guys are probably 'thick', but not overly long.

 

[onomatopoeia]

All kinds of useless men walk about calling themselves Alpha or high value men. It is embarrassing really. Anyone that says shit like that is just confessing how pathetic they are. Whatever happened to keeping your teenage ego in check and having people judge you by you actions and character?

People who legitimately are 'the cat's ass' don't need to toot their own horn. Their reputation is made by what other people say about them, when they're not around.

 

[Vera.Reis]

All kinds of useless men walk about calling themselves Alpha or high value men. It is embarrassing really. Anyone that says shit like that is just confessing how pathetic they are. Whatever happened to keeping your teenage ego in check and having people judge you by you actions and character?

It's the dog whistles, I think any person with critical thinking can see the issue with alpha/beta, but I have a couple times heard someone who didn't seem the type say he was a "high value" man, and I was taken aback bcz it wasn't expected, and when I asked if they knew what that meant or where it came from they didn't.

 

[Vera.Reis]

People who legitimately are 'the cat's ass' don't need to toot their own horn. Their reputation is made by what other people say about them, when they're not around.

They don't need to, but thinking people speaking of their accomplishments or the reputation they have is an indication that they don't have it, is not accurate. It depends on context, there are legitimate times for people to say they think they are doing well for themselves or that they are a good person etc but obviously if the person is saying one thing and people who know them are saying another, that's obviously an indication that they are full of it.

 

[Josephine]

Vera is right. Women don’t need men like they once did. They have their own incomes and their own aspirations. Most want a man as a companion and their equal. They don’t have to frantically search for a bread winner upon leaving high school and put up with being the junior partner in relationship for the rest of their lives. Many of them are deluded in terms of the sort of man they will partner with just as they are deluded about the type of life they will lead. Men share the same delusions about how attractive they are and the lives they deserve to lead. I walk around the grocery store in my reasonably affluent neighborhood and see tons of guys with beer guts, haven’t shaved for days, stringy beards, have a rats nest for hair (maybe kept in check by a tattered baseball cap) buying jumbo bags of Doritos I think these guys have given up on life. But then I see they have wedding rings on I think they must have won the lottery or something. It also tells me that lots of women have low, low standards and don’t act like the women in the OP.

It's a slang that you guys are not used to hear that has nothing to do with the alphas ideology. It might not be associated to your culture but I wouldn't call Beyonce or Rihanna embarrassing or pathetic for using it. There is nothing wrong with empowering each other, in a good way. Not a condescending one. No women that call themselves queen means it in a way in which they belittle men or a group of people.

 

[Josephine]

People who legitimately are 'the cat's ass' don't need to toot their own horn. Their reputation is made by what other people say about them, when they're not around.

I don't understand where is this mentality, of being scared of successful people admitting they are successful is coming from. It's very quebecois. Let people celebrate their success and for the love of God, be happy for them.

 

[Vera.Reis]

Vera is right. Women don’t need men like they once did. They have their own incomes and their own aspirations. Most want a man as a companion and their equal. They don’t have to frantically search for a bread winner upon leaving high school and put up with being the junior partner in relationship for the rest of their lives. Many of them are deluded in terms of the sort of man they will partner with just as they are deluded about the type of life they will lead. Men share the same delusions about how attractive they are and the lives they deserve to lead. I walk around the grocery store in my reasonably affluent neighborhood and see tons of guys with beer guts, haven’t shaved for days, stringy beards, have a rats nest for hair (maybe kept in check by a tattered baseball cap) buying jumbo bags of Doritos I think these guys have given up on life. But then I see they have wedding rings on I think they must have won the lottery or something. It also tells me that lots of women have low, low standards and don’t act like the women in the OP.

Exactly, and it comes on both sides. What I have little respect for is those who expect so much from others and don't ATTEMPT to hold themselves to those same standards. I would rather have a partner with a middle management job who is working on themselves and trying to get a promotion or developing skills to get a different, better career, over a pompous asshole who thinks he is perfect because he has a high power job and the income to match. But me and my partner both come from humble beginnings and worked hard on ourselves to not be part of a certain type of cycle, so we understand each other while also matching each others ambitions. I the former is more important than some people think. I have trouble relating to a trust fund kid, so while I may have been willing to date one for the perks when I was younger, at my current age, I want a partner, and like you said an equal who treats me as such.

Now, there are of course those who have done everything right in life just didn't give them the right doors to open, I of course do not mean those people when I say I have little respect for those who do not try to better themselves, but I think everyone should still have reasonable expectation of who they are likely to attract, that is the sad reality of it.

 

[Vera.Reis]

I don't understand where is this mentality, of being scared of successful people admitting they are successful is coming from. It's very quebecois. Let people celebrate their success and for the love of God, be happy for them.

period.

 

[stinkynuts]

When women are still delusional about what they can get, they fall for romance scam. A good looking, young to middle aged man, worth millions of dollars is interested in you: a middle aged or old plain woman. They end up sending their life savings in the hopes of landing this catch. It's actually funny and sad at the same time.


This woman is like many on the show, a delusional disgusting being.

 

[Vera.Reis]

When women are still delusional about what they can get, they fall for romance scam. A good looking, young to middle aged man, worth millions of dollars is interested in you: a middle aged or old plain woman. They end up sending their life savings in the hopes of landing this catch. It's actually funny and sad at the same time.

same happens to men with very attractive women that are out of their league lol

 

[stinkynuts]

same happens to men with very attractive women that are out of their league lol

Yep:

 

[onomatopoeia]

People who legitimately are 'the cat's ass' don't need to toot their own horn. Their reputation is made by what other people say about them, when they're not around.

I don't understand where is this mentality, of being scared of successful people admitting they are successful is coming from. It's very quebecois. Let people celebrate their success and for the love of God, be happy for them.

I didn't say that people should refrain from speaking about their achievements. I said they don't need to. What they've accomplished can speak for itself.

Humility/ modesty is a virtue. When someone says they are great, being merely good isn't good enough.

Muhammad Ali said "I am the greatest", and in that case, it was true. If Kanye West says it, there will be some dissenting opinions.

 

[Vera.Reis]

I didn't say that people should refrain from speaking about their achievements. I said they don't need to. What they've accomplished can speak for itself.

Humility/ modesty is a virtue. When someone says they are great, being merely good isn't good enough.

Muhammad Ali said "I am the greatest", and in that case, it was true. If Kanye West says it, there will be some dissenting opinions.

There are plenty decenting voices for Muhammad Ali, greatness is subjective. Someone might be great by their measurements and not yours. As I've said elsewhere, very few things people think are facts, are actually facts.

 

[Vera.Reis]

I think this needs a soundtrack featuring the world’s smallest violin. Of course, opting out is your choice but it seems you are abdicating any personal responsibility for the state of your life.

It was the "maintaining a relationship is impossible because women have ongoing needs" that told me he wanted to put in zero effort but get maximum return. Now imagine what he must say when the woman stops meeting his sexual needs because he won't meet her emotional ones. Imagine his reaction to a woman being like "I MET YOUR NEEDS LAST WEEK WHY ARE YOU HAVING NEEDS AGAIN"!!!! It's giving the client who books a 6hr appointment and is surprised when I expect to be fed.

 

[Scholar]

It was the "maintaining a relationship is impossible because women have ongoing needs" that told me he wanted to put in zero effort but get maximum return. Now imagine what he must say when the woman stops meeting his sexual needs because he won't meet her emotional ones. Imagine his reaction to a woman being like "I MET YOUR NEEDS LAST WEEK WHY ARE YOU HAVING NEEDS AGAIN"!!!! It's giving the client who books a 6hr appointment and is surprised when I expect to be fed.

Anyone who is surprised at a worker wanting to eat some time during a 6 hour shift needs their head examined. I'm sure they wouldn't put up with it from their employer.

That said, I'm hoping that your 6 hour appointment is actually 6.5 hours in duration to account for your unpaid 30 minute meal time?