Woman Wearing #NotHim Shirt Attacked by Bolsonaro Supporters, Swastika Carved In Skin

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Now if you want to see a real faked cut look at the image below of a Brazilian woman who alleged that she was attacked by the Neo nazis in Switzerland. Obviously, here the self inflicted cuts are clean, compared to the Swastika ones on this 19 year old lady in question:



http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29166028/...ice-woman-may-have-faked-attack/#.W8TYRS8ZOu4

That 26 year old lady that falsely made that allegation was convicted in Switzerland and then deported back to Brazil after her visa expired!!
 

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Now if you want to see a real faked cut look at the image below of a Brazilian woman who alleged that she was attacked by the Neo nazis in Switzerland. Obviously, here the self inflicted cuts are clean, compared to the Swastika ones on this 19 year old lady in question:



http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29166028/...ice-woman-may-have-faked-attack/#.W8TYRS8ZOu4

That 26 year old lady that falsely made that allegation was convicted in Switzerland and then deported back to Brazil after her visa expired!!
From the link above:

"Zurich University forensic medicine chief Walter Baer said "any experienced forensic doctor would not hesitate to assume that this was a case of self-infliction."
All of the wounds were reachable by hand, and none were severe, he said. Areas particularly sensitive for women — breasts, navel and outer genitals — were not injured
, he said."

Seems like the criteria I listed above work like a Swiss watch.
 

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From the link above:

"Zurich University forensic medicine chief Walter Baer said "any experienced forensic doctor would not hesitate to assume that this was a case of self-infliction."
All of the wounds were reachable by hand, and none were severe, he said. Areas particularly sensitive for women — breasts, navel and outer genitals — were not injured
, he said."

Seems like the criteria I listed above work like a Swiss watch.
Except that the pathologist you quote and the link you took it from, have absolutely nothing to do with the Brazil case this thread's about. And expert though your Swiss guy may be, he is nonetheless only giving his opinion. And about another case entirely. It is neither fact nor proof. Nor is his opinion of what other forensic pathologists might assume, on that other case or on any case anything like a fact.

Certainly anyone living in Toronto should be aware of the disgraced pathologist Dr. Charles Smith. An opinion, whether from lay people like us TERBians, or from accredited and established experts of longstanding is still only an opinion.
 

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From the link above:

"Zurich University forensic medicine chief Walter Baer said "any experienced forensic doctor would not hesitate to assume that this was a case of self-infliction."
All of the wounds were reachable by hand, and none were severe, he said. Areas particularly sensitive for women — breasts, navel and outer genitals — were not injured
, he said."

Seems like the criteria I listed above work like a Swiss watch.
Can you draw a Swastika on a breast that easily with someone wiggling about?
Look at the picture below: VP is fairly even. Look at the swastika at an angle and see the numerous scratches along with the angle of the swastika. Broken Swiss watch in this instance!!
 

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Can you draw a Swastika on a breast that easily with someone wiggling about?
Look at the picture below: VP is fairly even. Look at the swastika at an angle and see the numerous scratches along with the angle of the swastika. Broken Swiss watch in this instance!!
all I see is that VP woman was at least smart enough to not draw over the same lines numerous times. And she still got caught. Whoever thinks that an assailant would bother taking time to inflict numerous parallel light scratches on the [relatively soft ] stomach (as opposed to quickly carving it on flat convenient surface like a forehead or shoulder blade) is wilfully blind to the obvious.
 

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all I see is that VP woman was at least smart enough to not draw over the same lines numerous times. And she still got caught. Whoever thinks that an assailant would bother taking time to inflict numerous parallel light scratches on the [relatively soft ] stomach (as opposed to quickly carving it on flat convenient surface like a forehead or shoulder blade) is wilfully blind to the obvious.
Again lots of presumptions by you. The Brazilian Police are not stupid, and if your theory is true no doubt they would have arrested or charged her by now. The only thing that would support your hypothesis is, if she in conjunction with a second individual let that person scrawl that swastika image at that angle on her body. It would then be awkward to use a sharp object and do it herself she would have been screaming with all those scratches at that angle, whereas it could have been accomplished with less pain drawing parallel and perpendicular lines along your stomach with a sharp object.

If she wanted the publicity, then disclosing her name would have been part of the scenario. So tell us why she has not done so?
 

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Again lots of presumptions by you. The Brazilian Police are not stupid, and if your theory is true no doubt they would have arrested or charged her by now. The only thing that would support your hypothesis is, if she in conjunction with a second individual let that person scrawl that swastika image at that angle on her body. It would then be awkward to use a sharp object and do it herself she would have been screaming with all those scratches at that angle, whereas it could have been accomplished with less pain drawing parallel and perpendicular lines along your stomach with a sharp object.

If she wanted the publicity, then disclosing her name would have been part of the scenario. So tell us why she has not done so?
Again, you display what you don't know. You can create light scratches of kind shown in this picture virtually PAINLESSLY. (In fact, people commonly suffer such abrasions without even being aware of them.) She could have easily done it herself. Certainly others, like the example Eternalbachelor provided, have done so.
 

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Again, you display what you don't know. You can create light scratches of kind shown in this picture virtually PAINLESSLY. (In fact, people commonly suffer such abrasions without even being aware of them.) She could have easily done it herself. Certainly others, like the example Eternalbachelor provided, have done so.
Not always the case as you think it is. But, try doing it to your self at an awkward angle and see if it is that easy to draw that swastika symbol rather than going with parallel and perpendicular lines. Put on your listening ears for once!!
 

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Not always the case as you think it is. But, try doing it to your self at an awkward angle and see if it is that easy to draw that swastika symbol rather than going with parallel and perpendicular lines. Put on your listening ears for once!!
How can your imagination truly be that limited? Provided that you don't have some degenerative disk disease such that your spine has been fused, you can easily draw anything you want on your own stomach. Nothing awkward about it at all. Take a black marker out right now and give it a try. You can draw this, for purpose of demonstration: https://www.etsy.com/listing/538712930/classic-antifa-symbol-no-nazis-anti-nazi
 

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How can your imagination truly be that limited? Provided that you don't have some degenerative disk disease such that your spine has been fused, you can easily draw anything you want on your own stomach. Nothing awkward about it at all. Take a black marker out right now and give it a try. You can draw this, for purpose of demonstration: https://www.etsy.com/listing/538712930/classic-antifa-symbol-no-nazis-anti-nazi
Come to think of it, stomach is really the best place to do it if you fabricate it and you are a woman. It looks more serious than limbs, and you don't want to carve your boobs or face, and you can't reach your back. So there you go.

If I could put money on it being a fabrication, I'd put a grand against $200 happily.
 

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How can your imagination truly be that limited? Provided that you don't have some degenerative disk disease such that your spine has been fused, you can easily draw anything you want on your own stomach. Nothing awkward about it at all. Take a black marker out right now and give it a try. You can draw this, for purpose of demonstration: https://www.etsy.com/listing/538712930/classic-antifa-symbol-no-nazis-anti-nazi
Stupid link. You compare a black marker against a sharp object when using your stomach as the canvas?? You are not exactly drawing as you think you are, when holding a sharp object. You are scraping your stomach. Look at the position of your elbow when working at an angle on your stomach and then you will understand what it is all about!!
This is getting no where anyway. Wait until the final report from the police is published.
 

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Stupid link. You compare a black marker against a sharp object when using your stomach as the canvas?? You are not exactly drawing as you think you are, when holding a sharp object. You are scraping your stomach. Look at the position of your elbow when working at an angle on your stomach and then you will understand what it is all about!!
This is getting no where anyway. Wait until the final report from the police is published.
Beaver, I don't compare a marker to a knife. I just didn't want you to pick up a knife today, with all the terrible news coming your way.

You can wait for police reports, or whatever. The rest of us will file this one in the "to be ignored" folder.
 

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Beaver, I don't compare a marker to a knife. I just didn't want you to pick up a knife today, with all the terrible news coming your way.

You can wait for police reports, or whatever. The rest of us will file this one in the "to be ignored" folder.
Plugged, As usual you misconstrue everything. Some more statements that you have twisted and turned to create ridiculous conclusions. No wonder you are a Conspiracy Theorist!!
 

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Plugged, As usual you misconstrue everything. Some more statements that you have twisted and turned to create ridiculous conclusions. No wonder you are a Conspiracy Theorist!!
Storm's a passin', baby!

What a day for you:

1. Stormy booted out of court, with legal costs awarded against her.
2. Elizabeth Warren proves herself to be a fraud and an idiot.
3. You hang your hat on a dubious claim by a Brazilian woman.
4. You now realize Goldy's complaint against Bell has a proper legal footing.

Have I captured it all, or did I miss something?
 

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If you had a knife held against your stomach, how much would you be wiggling?
Well if the attacker was trying to draw a swastika symbol on her breasts would she not try by impulse to wiggle herself away from the knife? So which location would be easier for an attacker to draw that swastika.... her breasts or stomach? These right wingers have conspiracy theories about why they did not self inflict these images on their own breasts.
 

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If you had a knife held against your stomach, how much would you be wiggling?
Speaking from personal experience, I've only been knifed once and it was more of a slice than a stab, but my body jumped away from the blade with astounding force before my brain knew what was happening. I did have it coming, but that's besides the point...

KK
 

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Storm's a passin', baby!

What a day for you:

1. Stormy booted out of court, with legal costs awarded against her.
2. Elizabeth Warren proves herself to be a fraud and an idiot.
3. You hang your hat on a dubious claim by a Brazilian woman.
4. You now realize Goldy's complaint against Bell has a proper legal footing.

Have I captured it all, or did I miss something?
Stormy got twice the rating on 60 Minutes as Tiny did. Her court costs will be covered by her fans.
Warren is still in exactly the same place she was, while the GOP tries to shut Tiny up.

And you're still backing the white genocide crowd?
 
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