The term sweater is interchange. Some mean long sleeved shirts when they say sweater. Also, people in tropical countries are acclimated to the climate and can wear stuff that a person like you may feel is too hot.
Woman Wearing #NotHim Shirt Attacked by Bolsonaro Supporters, Swastika Carved In Skin
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Oagre means sweater. He is Canadian. That's his reference point. Please don't defend that.
It was just dumb.
This does need to be investigated. Thoroughly. That kind of act is unacceptable.
I don't need a fact finding source to know that bananas are yellow, or to know what a knife wound, as compared to a carefully made knife scratch, looks like. Apparently you do. It seems you need a news source to tell you everything, and everything they tell you, you believe. Sad.
You obviously didn't read beyond the first few words of my post. If no one did anything, there is no one to defend. Still don't get it? Perhaps it's not possible for you to grasp this point.
You obviously still don't get the point that its not up to me to prove that crimes were committed. That's up to prosecutors. However, I don't simply accept charges as proven because they have been made, especially when something about the facts looks wrong. You should be thinking the same way.
Just like you claimed Fields didn't do anything wrong.
p.s. Charlottesville proved you don't care what the prosecutors say.
The attacker drew hesitation marks? This sounds awful, but the wound doesn't support the story.Brazil: Woman Wearing #NotHim T-Shirt Attacked by Bolsonaro Supporters, Swastika Carved Into Skin
Published 10 October 2018
After physically assaulting her, one of the attackers took out a pocket knife and carved a sign, similar to a swastika, into her stomach.
A 19-year-old woman wearing a #NotHim, or #EleNão, T-shirt has been attacked by a group of men claiming to support far-right-wing presidential candidate Jair Bolsonaro in the Baronesa do Gravataí, Cidade Baixa neighborhood in Porto Alegre Monday.
The victim, who has refused to comment publicly on the attack fearing further attackes, told the Civil Police she was disembarking a bus and about to walk home when she was approached by the group of attackers.
After physically assaulting her, one of the attackers, she said, took out a pocket knife and carved a sign, similar to a swastika, into her stomach. The swastika is well known around the world to be associated with the Nazi regime of the 1930s and 1940s and is associated with ideas of racism and anti-semitism.
Hundreds of thousands gathered in different cities across Brazil over the last few weeks to protest against Bolsonaro, who represents the Social Liberal Party (PSL). The movement was led by feminists opposing the candidate's sexism, racism, and homophobia and has been supported by leftist organizations.
The marches follow social media unrest, as Bolsonaro's remarks have shown little empathy towards gender equality.
In a series of marches stretching from Manaus in the Amazon to the megacity of Sao Paulo in the nation's southeast, demonstrators used the #EleNao, or #NotHim, hashtag pledging that voters will not to vote for the candidate who has made light of rape and called the gender pay gap justified.
Demonstrators in 52 cities around the world, across 24 countries, will also show solidarity with Brazilians for the "#EleNão" (#NotHim) protests. According to the Facebook account of "Women United Against Bolsonaro," which now has over two million followers, the demonstrations are nonpartisan.
The international rallies are also organized through the "Brazilian Women Abroad Against Bolsonaro" Facebook account and will incorporate the #EleNão hashtag and "No to Fascism" slogan for social media use.
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Brazil-Woman-Wearing-NotHim-T-Shirt-Attacked-by-Bolsonaro-Supporters-20181010-0022.html
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Plugged, You probably are living in another Universe. Just looking at those wounds and saying that it was a "carefully made knife scratch" is ridiculous. So what was the reason that she would deliberately make that "scratch" and then lie to the police about it?? Are you defending the "Tropical Trump" supporters who instigated it?? By the way not all bananas are "yellow"!!
When even the very right wing news media like the Daily Mail have published this story, God only knows what is going on in that skull of yours:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...onaro-supporters-carved-SWASTIKA-stomach.html
All I can say is keep it to yourself, and do not constantly start berating everyone else with those conspiracy theories of yours, whether it is the very sad Heather Heyer killing or now this shocking incident!!
I've said no such thing. You are a truly confused individual.
But it is true that I don't care much about prosecutors say. Too often, in politically charged cases, they don't end up proving their case.
What's ridiculous to you is pretty obvious to someone with a bit of knowledge. When you have knowledge, you don't have to rely on newspapers to know what to think. Of course, you'd have to have real experiences in the real world to have real knowledge.
Publishing a story is not the same as saying something is true. Get it yet? Probably not.
No, he didn't draw hesitation marks; he just kept scratching with the sharp point of the knife until he got enough blood flowing to satisfy. Then moved on to the next arm of the swastika.
If he'd used any sort of sharp blade to actually cut with, he'd have risked getting himself as bloodied-up as a surgeon after just a stroke or two. But without the benefit of surgeon's scrubs and gloves and with the real risk he'd be causing serious injury, or even death, that would outweigh his 'message'.
So this story that is published by all the media left, right and centre is not accurate according to you. You are talking like someone who believes everything that is posted by alt right conspiracy theorists on the internet. Show us proof by any media including the Brazilian Police, that what this lady reported to the police is according to you "false" implying that it is "doctored" and then we can discuss it. You are going on and on with some ridiculous assessments as if you are a medical expert!!
We're here on the internet, so I'm not about about to tell you how it is I know what knife wounds and knife scrapes look like. Suffice it to say that I've received expert advice on this. However, there are online references you can check out, if you want to learn. http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/wounds/sharp-force-trauma/slash-wounds/ http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/wounds/blunt-force-trauma/abrasions/
Well I don't like nazis but the wound looks more fake than Trump's hair. Here's a bunch of photos of self inflicted wounds http://what-when-how.com/forensic-sciences/self-inflicted-injury/ and that swastika sure as hell looks self inflicted to me.
There's also a helpful list there:
Typical features of self-inflicted injuries fabricated to simulate a criminal offence
1. Infliction either by sharp/pointed instruments or by fingernails
2. Equally shallow, nonpenetratingcuts or fingernail abrasions (sometimes each of considerable length)
3. Multitude of individual lesions
4. Uniform shape, linear or slightly curved course of the lesions
5. Grouped and/or parallel and/or criss-cross arrangement
6. Symmetry or preference of the nondominant side of the body (usually the left)
7. Location in easily reachable body regions
8. Omission of especially sensitive body regions
9. No damage of the clothes or inconsistent damage
10. Lack of defense injuries
11. Additional presence of scars from former self-injurious behavior
Almost all of the above seems to apply here.
You are now the expert, so fly to Brazil and let the police know about your findings. Then arrange a conference with all the news media to reveal your "Research / Findings" so that you can "educate them" how to report such events. But as Frankfooter mentioned, just bail out James Fields and take him along to be your "Extreme Right Hand" man at your side!!
Also, there are some real Neo-nazis who have been performing acts of emblazoning the swastika signs and picking out Jews in particular.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/brazilian-skinheads-convicted-for-assaulting-jewish-men-in-2005/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/brazilian-skinheads-convicted-for-assaulting-jewish-men-in-2005/
However like Bud's citations, nothing on this list is proof of what happened or didn't happen in Brazil, or of whether a given wound was self-inflicted or not. They are merely indicators, though they may make your inference more probable, not even 11. proves self-infliction.
And ridiculous though Trump's hair may be, others can certainly be more fake than him, and even possess the same indicators.
