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Woman friend zoned me. anyway to still be her lover?

SexB

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Move on, my son, move on. There are greener pastures to graze upon.
Exactly.

IMHO, guys should drop this "friend zone" bullshit when they're handed their high school diploma or by age 25 at the latest. If she isn't into you, there isn't a whole hell of a lot you can do about it. Something may develop over time but you're best to just move on; there's plenty of fish out there.

Same goes for the ladies.

And look at this way, she has friends and she may think, "Hmm, he's not really my type but I think he'd totally hit it off with my friend!" But just don't use her as a dating service.
 

Titalian

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If a woman dose not find you sexually attractive after initially meeting her - There's nothing you can do about it.
If on the other hand, she does find you sexually attractive - then there's nothing she can do about it.

Here is where the key lies and how you play it.
 
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Buick Mackane

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Being friends with a woman at work is good, don't get on her bad side.
She might have a hotter friend who is interested in you sexually.
 

AdamH

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In my experience, it doesn't matter if a woman thinks of you as a friend or not, she'll fuck you if she wants to fuck you..

The good news is there could be a thousand reasons why she hasn't decided to fuck you yet..

Just be nice to women and realize that there hasn't been a single man in history who has been able to control the way a woman feels (about ANYTHING EVER)..
 

SexB

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Just to add to this, if she's stringing you along and using the possibility of your friendship developing into something more, whether it's a relationship or sex, so she can get something from you, whether it's driven everywhere, help with a project at work or food and drinks, my response is to open your eyes, develop a spine and some dignity, along with growing a pair, and kick her manipulative ass to the curb.
 

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I have had encountered two caustic 'friend' relationships. The first was my brother who had a hard on for a cute girl at his work. His plan was to be a 'friend'. I met both of them at lunch and I could tell that he was not her type. She was an independent person who told me about her international travelling and I knew from her demeanor at lunch that my brother was a friend. There was eye contact from him to her but not the other way. My brother was on call for this girl and when I asked why her boyfriend wasn't there, my brother told me what an inconsiderate douche. When she broke up - my brother thought he must be next in line. He was still waiting on her when he learned that she had a new boyfriend. I don't blame her completely but I'm sure she knew why he was always around.

The second was when I started dating a Romanian dancer who was working at the Pro Cafe. When we started dating she told me that she was living with a male 'friend'. I told her I didn't want to get involved in any problems but she told me that the friend was a former customer that was letting her stay in her own bedroom. She told me that she had assurances from the 'friend' that there would be no expectations and she told him that she had a love interest at home. She said her friend was a nice guy and there would be no problems. The day after I picked her up for a date and she returned home the next day - the 'friend' turned into a vindictive asshole - not talking to her, making life miserable. She had to move out within a week.

My word of advice is that if she regards you as a 'friend' and that's not what you are interested in - then walk away. If it bugs you to see her with some one else walk away.
 

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I have had encountered two caustic 'friend' relationships. The first was my brother who had a hard on for a cute girl at his work. His plan was to be a 'friend'. I met both of them at lunch and I could tell that he was not her type. She was an independent person who told me about her international travelling and I knew from her demeanor at lunch that my brother was a friend. There was eye contact from him to her but not the other way. My brother was on call for this girl and when I asked why her boyfriend wasn't there, my brother told me what an inconsiderate douche. When she broke up - my brother thought he must be next in line. He was still waiting on her when he learned that she had a new boyfriend. I don't blame her completely but I'm sure she knew why he was always around.

The second was when I started dating a Romanian dancer who was working at the Pro Cafe. When we started dating she told me that she was living with a male 'friend'. I told her I didn't want to get involved in any problems but she told me that the friend was a former customer that was letting her stay in her own bedroom. She told me that she had assurances from the 'friend' that there would be no expectations and she told him that she had a love interest at home. She said her friend was a nice guy and there would be no problems. The day after I picked her up for a date and she returned home the next day - the 'friend' turned into a vindictive asshole - not talking to her, making life miserable. She had to move out within a week.

My word of advice is that if she regards you as a 'friend' and that's not what you are interested in - then walk away. If it bugs you to see her with some one else walk away.
Interesting stories. And very good advice.

Its one of three outcomes on the part of the woman when she first meets a male. Either complete disinterest, friend category or lover category.
When it comes to complete disinterest or the lover category you will find out soon enough as opposed to the friend category where some men fill their heads with illusions of possible love.
What makes matters worse sometime is when the female sends out mixed signals.
 

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The commonest way I've heard is to wait for her to date some other guy, maybe a jerk, she breaks up with him and pours her heart out to you, and then... This is often described with surprise by females as the "something just happened" scenario. Alcohol and drugs are sometime but not always a factor. I'm always surprised when I hear this story from girls and they have no idea that their Beta-male friend was planning his chance months if not years in advance. I find it creepy myself. One of my ex-girlfriends had a male friend who she actually assumed was gay try this on her after we broke up. It didn't work apparently.
The better advice is just to move on, there's someone for everybody and wanting what you can't have blinds you to the opportunities that you have.
 

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Invite her & some of her friends out, tell her you & a few buds are going out Friday or Saturday nite. Casually start flirting with one of her friends. If she likes you the evil eye will come out. Either way you'll find out if she likes you or maybe you'll get a chance to hookup with her friend. All is fair in love & ... Lol
 

Titalian

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Here's the depiction of an expert, read the captions. Its so blatantly obvious. Bottom line, don't drool over them. They'll disrespect you for it.

 

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You can get out of the zone but you have to be bold, sexualize things but leave her hanging, make it clear by context that you AREN'T making a move while doing something to sexualize the relationship.

If you make move in friend zone you get that "omg I thought we were friends but you are just trying to get into my pants" routine. If sexualize it but leave her hanging she goes away wondering why you didn't, then NEXT time you make your move.

It is a tricky thing to get right. One time in university I got seriously friend zoned (think months) and finally got out by giving my "friend" a birthday present that involved porn, then we had a discussion of what sort of porn was good and looked at some, it created a serious tension, but I made no move, just let the tension build, and went home. Next time she came over it was like shooting fish in a barrel when I made a move.
Some good advice here... One of the key words here is "tension".

Friendzone there is little tension....Just her saying she feels some casual comfort around you and nothing more. Whereas an initial sexual relationship needs to have a sense of tension. Even playfully teasing her can be a form of tension. It also shows her that you aren't putting her on a pedestal, instead of being a nice guy who agrees with everything she says. (Which often can be perceived as fake).

I mean typically when you like a girl sexually you have a initial high level of tension.
Thanks for everyone's reply but I like the advice from above. Anyway, went into work today and had a brief chat with her and the conversation went well. Later on at break times I felt a tension between us. I also caught her staring at me, not sure if it was a stare of interest or if she was wondering what I was going to do next though. We usually don't sit together as she usually spends it on the phone or outside smoking. Later on towards the end of work, she seemed to totally avoid me but she was busy. Felt sorta cold. She also didn't return my last text to her from the weekend, says she had a phone problem when I asked her about it, but she seemed genuine in her reply.

Anyway, anyone else has any suggestions? Any advice from the ladies on here? She seemed so into me when we first met, but not so much now. I miss the attention.
 

Titalian

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Thanks for everyone's reply but I like the advice from above. Anyway, went into work today and had a brief chat with her and the conversation went well. Later on at break times I felt a tension between us. I also caught her staring at me, not sure if it was a stare of interest or if she was wondering what I was going to do next though. We usually don't sit together as she usually spends it on the phone or outside smoking. Later on towards the end of work, she seemed to totally avoid me but she was busy. Felt sorta cold. She also didn't return my last text to her from the weekend, says she had a phone problem when I asked her about it, but she seemed genuine in her reply.

Anyway, anyone else has any suggestions? Any advice from the ladies on here? She seemed so into me when we first met, but not so much now. I miss the attention.
Judging by your first paragraph I would walk, and go on with business as usual, don't ignore her completely especially if it concerns biz. but never allude to any disappointment.

As to your last statement, rule number one, never base your impressions of someone on first meetings, keep it light and stay cool.
 

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I have a few friends that are women... We laugh and carry on, go for dinner, wine tours, do sports and all sorts of activities together... nothing wrong with that at all.

They are good friends....












































 

Titalian

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I have a few friends that are women... We laugh and carry on, go for dinner, wine tours, do sports and all sorts of activities together... nothing wrong with that at all.
Would you bed anyone of them?
 
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