My Pfizer was 3:30 yesterday. Arm mildly sore last night, but very sore this morning. Had to cancel my booking with an sp today because of it.
No fever, but a little less "zip". Compared to my usual flu shot my arm pain was 2 to 3 times worse...
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No fever, but a little less "zip". Compared to my usual flu shot my arm pain was 2 to 3 times worse...
Unverifiable?Of course he did...
I can’t imagine why CTV would push a positive, yet unverifiable story about the AZ jabs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d94eea-861a-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/3/16/thailand-australia-stick-with-astrazenecas-covid-vaccine
https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...b-as-country-resumes-rollout-despite-concerns
https://www.thejakartapost.com/seas...azeneca-jab-as-country-resumes-rollout--.html
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...eceives-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-14417792
There are around 621,000 more articles but strangely, I couldn't find a link to Rebel News so you could see it was verifiable.
Don't know why you keep posting these, they have all been shown to be false or misleading.
Even the last sentence you posted disproves the headline. "On March 10, the European Medicines Agency declared that there is no evidence linking AstraZeneca’s vaccine to the two cases of blood clots in Austria."
This guy wrote an opinion article based on raw data and did not use the guide on how to understand the raw data.
http://www.adrreports.eu/en/understanding_reports.html
He obviously failed to read or just ignored the disclaimer.
http://www.adrreports.eu/en/disclaimer.html
Failing to read, or just ignoring the facts is a very common theme amongst the “Stable Genius” crowd aka people who subscribe and promote these false information.
The fully vaccinated are getting infected again, demonstrating yet again that vaccines don’t really work as promised
Covid-19 is beginning to spike in over a dozen states, most with high vaccination rates. Hawaii’s Department of Health has begun to report on covid-19 cases occurring in people who are fully vaccinated against covid-19. The Department is labeling these “breakthrough cases,” but says that people should not be alarmed. It turns out that healthcare professionals are not worried about these post-vaccination covid-19 cases.
For over a year, a covid-19 case was treated as a serious issue, with 14-day quarantines and aggressive contact tracing. But if the covid-19 case is detected after vaccination, the public should NOT be alarmed. In an attempt to plunge as many needles in people arms as possible, health authorities deceive patients about vaccine safety and efficacy and nonchalantly brush aside any covid-19 cases that appear in the fully vaccinated.
Doctors admit the vaccines do not prevent infection, so what’s the point?
The doctors reporting for KITV4 in Hawaii even admit that the vaccine “doesn’t prevent infection!” If disease prevention and eradication is the traditional goal of vaccination, then why are people still testing positive after covid-19 vaccination, and why are people still getting fever, chills, headaches and respiratory illness after submitting to the shots?
Instead of addressing vaccine efficacy issues, the doctors who spoke to KITV4 discouraged travel after vaccination. Dr. Melinda Ashton, Chief Quality Officer with Hawaii Pacific Health said that one breakthrough case of covid-19 was from a healthcare worker who traveled to multiple cities, before testing positive. “Absolutely you need to be careful during those times when you’re in the airport, on the airplane, with other people in larger groups,” Ashton said, while ignoring the issue of waning vaccine efficacy. It doesn’t matter whether anyone gets vaccinated or not…it seems anyone has the exact same risk of being infected with covid. This confession debunks any crooked rationale used to install coercive Vaccine Passports. (Related: Top 7 reasons people are testing positive for covid-19 after vaccinations.)
Doctors routinely ignore the data and lie about vaccine side effects and hospitalizations
Dr. Julius Pham, chair of the COVID-19 committee at Queen’s Medical Center, admitted that the vaccines aren’t perfect but did offer significant protection against hospitalization. This statement is deception as well. According to the latest updates to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), there have been 6,786 emergency room visits after administration of covid-19 vaccines in the US. There have also been 5,920 doctor’s visits and 762 permanent disabilities linked to the experiment. Most shocking, the covid-19 vaccine is associated with 4,063 hospitalizations and another 1,644 fatalities. At least 38, 303 adverse events have been reported in the US so far, representing less than one percent of all issues associated with these vaccines.
Most of these issues aren’t being reported and are being accepted as normal. People are sometimes bedridden after the second dose of mRNA and are suffering from fever, chills and severe headaches. Instead of addressing these serious issues, many healthcare professionals are telling patients these vaccine injuries are much easier to endure than a hypothetical infection. Patients are told that any coronavirus infection after covid-19 vaccination is a mild infection compared to what they would have experienced. This is also an untrue statement, for most covid-19 cases were mild, asymptomatic, and easily treated. How do health authorities make such a general assumption about potential infections, as they plunge needles, with experimental, untested vaccines, into people’s arms and promise brighter days?
If these experimental vaccines worked as promised, then fully vaccinated patients should never become infected. Instead, the fully vaccinated are told to wear a mask and avoid family members until everyone submits to the group experiment. This is a blatant confession that the vaccine science does not work. Dr. Michael Walter, Kalihi-Palama Health Center, spoke to KITV4: “Over time, as more people get vaccinated, we have more time under our belt with this vaccine, we have a better idea of how long the protection lasts.”
According to clinical studies, the so-called protection didn’t last for long, as antibody levels waned within two to three months. In order to stay concurrent with the vaccine science, vaccinated individuals will theoretically NEVER be fully vaccinated and would need updates to their cells four to six times each year. The makers of the mRNA vaccine science at Moderna report that they have “hacked” human DNA and are using mRNA to upload software and updates to human cells. If the fully vaccinated are getting infected…is it already time to upgrade their system?
In the end, it will be much easier to convince the vaccine compliant population to segregate those who are “vaccine hesitant” — blaming healthy people for spreading infections they do not have, but sooner or later, the vaccinated will go along with all the new vaccine updates in order to be considered “safe” again. The destruction of human bodies, minds and civilization will only continue.
Sources include:
KITV.com
Forbes.com
Covid-19 is beginning to spike in over a dozen states, most with high vaccination rates. Hawaii’s Department of Health has begun to report on covid-19 cases occurring in people who are fully vaccinated against covid-19. The Department is labeling these “breakthrough cases,” but says that people should not be alarmed. It turns out that healthcare professionals are not worried about these post-vaccination covid-19 cases.
For over a year, a covid-19 case was treated as a serious issue, with 14-day quarantines and aggressive contact tracing. But if the covid-19 case is detected after vaccination, the public should NOT be alarmed. In an attempt to plunge as many needles in people arms as possible, health authorities deceive patients about vaccine safety and efficacy and nonchalantly brush aside any covid-19 cases that appear in the fully vaccinated.
Doctors admit the vaccines do not prevent infection, so what’s the point?
The doctors reporting for KITV4 in Hawaii even admit that the vaccine “doesn’t prevent infection!” If disease prevention and eradication is the traditional goal of vaccination, then why are people still testing positive after covid-19 vaccination, and why are people still getting fever, chills, headaches and respiratory illness after submitting to the shots?
Instead of addressing vaccine efficacy issues, the doctors who spoke to KITV4 discouraged travel after vaccination. Dr. Melinda Ashton, Chief Quality Officer with Hawaii Pacific Health said that one breakthrough case of covid-19 was from a healthcare worker who traveled to multiple cities, before testing positive. “Absolutely you need to be careful during those times when you’re in the airport, on the airplane, with other people in larger groups,” Ashton said, while ignoring the issue of waning vaccine efficacy. It doesn’t matter whether anyone gets vaccinated or not…it seems anyone has the exact same risk of being infected with covid. This confession debunks any crooked rationale used to install coercive Vaccine Passports. (Related: Top 7 reasons people are testing positive for covid-19 after vaccinations.)
Doctors routinely ignore the data and lie about vaccine side effects and hospitalizations
Dr. Julius Pham, chair of the COVID-19 committee at Queen’s Medical Center, admitted that the vaccines aren’t perfect but did offer significant protection against hospitalization. This statement is deception as well. According to the latest updates to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), there have been 6,786 emergency room visits after administration of covid-19 vaccines in the US. There have also been 5,920 doctor’s visits and 762 permanent disabilities linked to the experiment. Most shocking, the covid-19 vaccine is associated with 4,063 hospitalizations and another 1,644 fatalities. At least 38, 303 adverse events have been reported in the US so far, representing less than one percent of all issues associated with these vaccines.
Most of these issues aren’t being reported and are being accepted as normal. People are sometimes bedridden after the second dose of mRNA and are suffering from fever, chills and severe headaches. Instead of addressing these serious issues, many healthcare professionals are telling patients these vaccine injuries are much easier to endure than a hypothetical infection. Patients are told that any coronavirus infection after covid-19 vaccination is a mild infection compared to what they would have experienced. This is also an untrue statement, for most covid-19 cases were mild, asymptomatic, and easily treated. How do health authorities make such a general assumption about potential infections, as they plunge needles, with experimental, untested vaccines, into people’s arms and promise brighter days?
If these experimental vaccines worked as promised, then fully vaccinated patients should never become infected. Instead, the fully vaccinated are told to wear a mask and avoid family members until everyone submits to the group experiment. This is a blatant confession that the vaccine science does not work. Dr. Michael Walter, Kalihi-Palama Health Center, spoke to KITV4: “Over time, as more people get vaccinated, we have more time under our belt with this vaccine, we have a better idea of how long the protection lasts.”
According to clinical studies, the so-called protection didn’t last for long, as antibody levels waned within two to three months. In order to stay concurrent with the vaccine science, vaccinated individuals will theoretically NEVER be fully vaccinated and would need updates to their cells four to six times each year. The makers of the mRNA vaccine science at Moderna report that they have “hacked” human DNA and are using mRNA to upload software and updates to human cells. If the fully vaccinated are getting infected…is it already time to upgrade their system?
In the end, it will be much easier to convince the vaccine compliant population to segregate those who are “vaccine hesitant” — blaming healthy people for spreading infections they do not have, but sooner or later, the vaccinated will go along with all the new vaccine updates in order to be considered “safe” again. The destruction of human bodies, minds and civilization will only continue.
Sources include:
KITV.com
Forbes.com
The fully vaccinated are getting infected again, demonstrating yet again that vaccines don't really work as promised
The fully vaccinated are getting infected again, demonstrating yet again that vaccines don't really work as promised
www.afinalwarning.com
And he has not yet told us how it feels to spend months of his life researching and posting, yet failing to convince a single person. People keep signing up and lining up.
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Using Herd Immunity Excuse for Gene Therapy Vaccine on Kids
In children and young adults from age birth to 19, the survival rate of COVID-19 is 99.997%.1,2 In most cases, symptoms are mild or nonexistent. Among children who were hospitalized, 0.19% of children died from COVID-19, with researchers concluding in a 2021 study, “Hospitalization and in-hospital death are rare in children diagnosed with COVID-19.”3
Despite the fact that COVID-19 has had little impact, physically, to children, health officials are setting the stage for widespread vaccination of this population. The University of Oxford, which is collaborating on a COVID-19 vaccine with AstraZeneca, is already enrolling children between the ages of 6 years and 17 years and 8 months in their U.K. vaccine trial.4
A COVID vaccine for infants and children is every bit as unnecessary, dangerous and foolish as the hepatitis B vaccine is for infants that I have been railing against for the past two decades.
Moderna is also enrolling 3,000 children between the ages of 12 and 17 to test their COVID-19 vaccine, using the same dose given to adults,5 while Pfizer also expanded its clinical trials to include children as young as 12.6 Johnson & Johnson even announced on February 28, 2021, that it plans to test its COVID-19 vaccine on infants, including newborn babies, pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems.
“They did not get into a lot of detail about it but did make it clear they will be pursuing pediatric and maternal coronavirus immunization studies,” Dr. Ofer Levy, a member of the FDA’s advisory committee who reviewed Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine data, told The New York Times.7
It’s Gene Therapy — Not a Vaccine
The COVID-19 vaccine really isn’t a vaccine in the medical definition of a vaccine. It’s more accurately an experimental gene therapy, of which the effectiveness and safety are far from proven. During the first six weeks the vaccine was available, more than 500 post-vaccination deaths and nearly 11,000 other adverse events were reported to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).8
According to Children’s Health Defense (CHD), professor Dolores J. Cahill, Ph.D., a molecular biologist and immunologist, “expects to see successive waves of adverse reactions to the experimental messenger RNA (mRNA) injections ranging from anaphylaxis and other allergic responses to autoimmunity, sepsis and organ failure.”9
Considering that children are at extremely low risk from COVID-19, vaccination offers them far more risk than benefit, and parents may be understandably reluctant to volunteer their children to receive this experimental and unlicensed gene therapy. Public health officials have made it clear, however, that vaccination of children is expected. CHD reported:10
Using ‘Herd Immunity’ to Justify Vaccinating Children
Since children themselves have little reason to get a COVID-19 vaccine, health officials are spinning the notion that children must be vaccinated for the sake of herd immunity. Now, they want you to think that not only should you look at the people around you as vectors of disease, but also the children, who could be asymptomatic carriers, silently bringing a deadly disease to grandma’s house.
What’s being largely ignored, however, are the studies showing that children are not driving the COVID-19 pandemic and, in fact, appear less likely to transmit COVID-19 than adults.12
“In short, public health leaders say, parents must ‘vaccinate the young to protect the old.’ Given the federal government’s estimate that one vaccine injury results from every 39 vaccines administered, it seems clear that officials expect children to shoulder 100% of the risks of COVID vaccination in exchange for zero benefit,” CHD noted.13
Herd immunity, which occurs when enough people acquire immunity to an infectious disease such that it can no longer spread widely in the community, is calculated using reproductive number, or R-naught (R0), which is the estimated number of new infections that may occur from one infected person.14
R0 of below 1 (with R1 meaning that one person who’s infected is expected to infect one other person) indicates that cases are declining while R0 above 1 suggests cases are on the rise. It’s far from an exact science, however, as a person’s susceptibility to infection varies depending on many factors, including their health, age and contacts within a community.
The initial R0 calculations for COVID-19’s HIT were based on assumptions that everyone has the same susceptibility and would be mixing randomly with others in the community. But a study published in Nature Reviews Immunology suggested that the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 may need to be adjusted because children are less susceptible to the disease:15
Another point being largely ignored in the mainstream media is that it’s unknown if the COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission, putting a major hole in the push for vaccine-driven herd immunity.
Unlike conventional vaccines, which use an antigen of the disease you’re trying to prevent, the COVID-19 injections contain synthetic RNA fragments encapsulated in a nanolipid carrier compound,16 the sole purpose of which is to lessen clinical symptoms associated with the S-1 spike protein, not the actual virus.
They do not actually impart immunity or inhibit transmissibility of the disease. In other words, they are not designed to keep you from getting sick with SARS-CoV-2; they only are supposed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you do get infected.17,18
At a virtual press conference held by the World Health Organization (WHO) on December 28, 2020, WHO officials warned there is no guarantee that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent people from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and transmitting it to other people.19
In a New Year’s Day interview with Newsweek, Fauci reinforced the WHO’s admission that health officials do not know if COVID-19 vaccines prevent infection or if people can spread the virus to others after getting vaccinated.20
Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) in December 2020 for Pfizer/BioNTech21 and Moderna22 to release their experimental mRNA vaccines for use in the U.S., the companies only provided evidence from clinical trials to demonstrate that their vaccines prevented mild to severe COVID-19 disease symptoms in vaccinated participants compared to unvaccinated trial participants.
The companies did not investigate whether the vaccines prevent people from becoming asymptomatically infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and/or transmitting it to other people.23,24
Meanwhile, if you or your child recovered from COVID-19 or had an asymptomatic case, you likely already have some level of protective immunity25 — another factor being largely ignored in the push to vaccinate children. In fact, trials suggested there’s no benefit to getting vaccinated among those who have been previously infected with COVID-19.26
Using Herd Immunity Excuse for Gene Therapy Vaccine on Kids (mercola.com)
In children and young adults from age birth to 19, the survival rate of COVID-19 is 99.997%.1,2 In most cases, symptoms are mild or nonexistent. Among children who were hospitalized, 0.19% of children died from COVID-19, with researchers concluding in a 2021 study, “Hospitalization and in-hospital death are rare in children diagnosed with COVID-19.”3
Despite the fact that COVID-19 has had little impact, physically, to children, health officials are setting the stage for widespread vaccination of this population. The University of Oxford, which is collaborating on a COVID-19 vaccine with AstraZeneca, is already enrolling children between the ages of 6 years and 17 years and 8 months in their U.K. vaccine trial.4
A COVID vaccine for infants and children is every bit as unnecessary, dangerous and foolish as the hepatitis B vaccine is for infants that I have been railing against for the past two decades.
Moderna is also enrolling 3,000 children between the ages of 12 and 17 to test their COVID-19 vaccine, using the same dose given to adults,5 while Pfizer also expanded its clinical trials to include children as young as 12.6 Johnson & Johnson even announced on February 28, 2021, that it plans to test its COVID-19 vaccine on infants, including newborn babies, pregnant women and people with compromised immune systems.
“They did not get into a lot of detail about it but did make it clear they will be pursuing pediatric and maternal coronavirus immunization studies,” Dr. Ofer Levy, a member of the FDA’s advisory committee who reviewed Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine data, told The New York Times.7
It’s Gene Therapy — Not a Vaccine
The COVID-19 vaccine really isn’t a vaccine in the medical definition of a vaccine. It’s more accurately an experimental gene therapy, of which the effectiveness and safety are far from proven. During the first six weeks the vaccine was available, more than 500 post-vaccination deaths and nearly 11,000 other adverse events were reported to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS).8
According to Children’s Health Defense (CHD), professor Dolores J. Cahill, Ph.D., a molecular biologist and immunologist, “expects to see successive waves of adverse reactions to the experimental messenger RNA (mRNA) injections ranging from anaphylaxis and other allergic responses to autoimmunity, sepsis and organ failure.”9
Considering that children are at extremely low risk from COVID-19, vaccination offers them far more risk than benefit, and parents may be understandably reluctant to volunteer their children to receive this experimental and unlicensed gene therapy. Public health officials have made it clear, however, that vaccination of children is expected. CHD reported:10
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), also stated that 85% to 90% of the U.S. population, including children, will need to receive a COVID-19 vaccine before life can return to normal, and he suggested that first graders may be authorized to be vaccinated by September 2021.11
Using ‘Herd Immunity’ to Justify Vaccinating Children
Since children themselves have little reason to get a COVID-19 vaccine, health officials are spinning the notion that children must be vaccinated for the sake of herd immunity. Now, they want you to think that not only should you look at the people around you as vectors of disease, but also the children, who could be asymptomatic carriers, silently bringing a deadly disease to grandma’s house.
What’s being largely ignored, however, are the studies showing that children are not driving the COVID-19 pandemic and, in fact, appear less likely to transmit COVID-19 than adults.12
“In short, public health leaders say, parents must ‘vaccinate the young to protect the old.’ Given the federal government’s estimate that one vaccine injury results from every 39 vaccines administered, it seems clear that officials expect children to shoulder 100% of the risks of COVID vaccination in exchange for zero benefit,” CHD noted.13
Herd immunity, which occurs when enough people acquire immunity to an infectious disease such that it can no longer spread widely in the community, is calculated using reproductive number, or R-naught (R0), which is the estimated number of new infections that may occur from one infected person.14
R0 of below 1 (with R1 meaning that one person who’s infected is expected to infect one other person) indicates that cases are declining while R0 above 1 suggests cases are on the rise. It’s far from an exact science, however, as a person’s susceptibility to infection varies depending on many factors, including their health, age and contacts within a community.
The initial R0 calculations for COVID-19’s HIT were based on assumptions that everyone has the same susceptibility and would be mixing randomly with others in the community. But a study published in Nature Reviews Immunology suggested that the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 may need to be adjusted because children are less susceptible to the disease:15
COVID Gene Therapy May Not Prevent Transmission
Another point being largely ignored in the mainstream media is that it’s unknown if the COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission, putting a major hole in the push for vaccine-driven herd immunity.
Unlike conventional vaccines, which use an antigen of the disease you’re trying to prevent, the COVID-19 injections contain synthetic RNA fragments encapsulated in a nanolipid carrier compound,16 the sole purpose of which is to lessen clinical symptoms associated with the S-1 spike protein, not the actual virus.
They do not actually impart immunity or inhibit transmissibility of the disease. In other words, they are not designed to keep you from getting sick with SARS-CoV-2; they only are supposed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you do get infected.17,18
At a virtual press conference held by the World Health Organization (WHO) on December 28, 2020, WHO officials warned there is no guarantee that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent people from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and transmitting it to other people.19
In a New Year’s Day interview with Newsweek, Fauci reinforced the WHO’s admission that health officials do not know if COVID-19 vaccines prevent infection or if people can spread the virus to others after getting vaccinated.20
Although the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) in December 2020 for Pfizer/BioNTech21 and Moderna22 to release their experimental mRNA vaccines for use in the U.S., the companies only provided evidence from clinical trials to demonstrate that their vaccines prevented mild to severe COVID-19 disease symptoms in vaccinated participants compared to unvaccinated trial participants.
The companies did not investigate whether the vaccines prevent people from becoming asymptomatically infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and/or transmitting it to other people.23,24
Meanwhile, if you or your child recovered from COVID-19 or had an asymptomatic case, you likely already have some level of protective immunity25 — another factor being largely ignored in the push to vaccinate children. In fact, trials suggested there’s no benefit to getting vaccinated among those who have been previously infected with COVID-19.26
Using Herd Immunity Excuse for Gene Therapy Vaccine on Kids (mercola.com)
Covid-19: NI's vaccination programme success continues
BBC News NI's Eunan McConville crunches the coronavirus figures and considers the improving picture.
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Covid-19: NI's vaccination programme success continues
and THE BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE continues just like a case of DIAREAHGym stop training covid vaxxed cients after discovering they are no longer insured
Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
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| Study Type : | Interventional (Clinical Trial) |
| Estimated Enrollment : | 43998 participants |
| Allocation: | Randomized |
| Intervention Model: | Parallel Assignment |
| Masking: | Triple (Participant, Care Provider, Investigator) |
| Primary Purpose: | Prevention |
| Official Title: | A PHASE 1/2/3, PLACEBO-CONTROLLED, RANDOMIZED, OBSERVER-BLIND, DOSE-FINDING STUDY TO EVALUATE THE SAFETY, TOLERABILITY, IMMUNOGENICITY, AND EFFICACY OF SARS-COV-2 RNA VACCINE CANDIDATES AGAINST COVID-19 IN HEALTHY INDIVIDUALS |
| Actual Study Start Date : | April 29, 2020 |
| Estimated Primary Completion Date : | August 3, 2021 |
| Estimated Study Completion Date : | January 31, 2023 |
Why a Covid vaccine's potential is about much more than just efficacy
Even if a vaccine's headline efficacy is low it does not mean it has failed – what counts most is stopping severe cases of Covid
Why a Covid vaccine's potential is about much more than just efficacy
You're forgetting "misunderstanding what they read". That's been the other thing. Even when it does seem they read the piece, they often misrepresent it and I don't think it is always deliberately.
That's going to be an issue. Insurance companies are going to always err on the side of "what can we do that means we never have to pay out" and so they are likely to be aggressive in looking for reasons to invalidate people's insurance.
I would tend to believe the ones who will be having insurance issues will be the folks not vaccinated if the vaccines prove to be a success.
Eventually, yes. But if the company can justify not paying out either way, they will try and do that.
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