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Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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NotADcotor

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I've said it before, I say it again. I am a firm believer in choice.
A vaccine shot or a shot with a 9mm to the back of the skull. Pick one.

As time goes on, I am so done with all this whining and bullshit and at this point restrictions that wouldn't be needed if they would just man up and force idiots to do the right thing.

And as I've also said before. It is very vexing that a government can force people to lose their business and probably go bankrupt, can set up a situation where graduating students are truly fubared and all the other things they have asked of people to sacrifice and yet won't get people to take a mostly harmless vaccine that the government will pay for. I don't have the numbers but I'd hazard a guess that more people have killed themselves from having their lives and dreams destroyed than will die if everyone gets the vaccine.
Don't take my above comments to be pro or anti lockdown, I am just pointing out the inconsistency in the sacrifices being asked.

Double plus so when I am sure many of the people who are most hard core against forced vaccines probably have no problem with Selective Slavery or even sending people to the front to die overseas during a World War.
 

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When you're threatened with losing your job, possibly not being able to make your next month's rent or mortgage payment, possibly becoming homeless and/or bankrupt, that is being FORCED to take the vaccine.
1,400 healthcare didn't take it. They were obviously and undeniably not forced to take the vaccine.

They prove you wrong. End of story.
 

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Also, when you bring up alcohol, I know you THINK you're hurting me, but really you're not because I can afford to do nothing all day, booze all I want, and slam as many SP's as I like. I call that a good life (y):whistle:
It sounds like a useless existence and a waste of the earth's oxygen.
 

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1,400 healthcare didn't take it. They were obviously and undeniably not forced to take the vaccine.

They prove you wrong. End of story.
why 1400 don't want to take the vaccine? don't they know that it's safe as you keep saying?
 

shack

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why 1400 don't want to take the vaccine? don't they know that it's safe as you keep saying?
Who knows what their motivation was? The point is that Phil is trying to make an impossible argument. They didn't take the vaccine. The only conclusion is that they were not FORCED to take the vaccine. If they were actually forced to take it, then it would already be in their arms.
 

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Who knows what their motivation was? The point is that Phil is trying to make an impossible argument. They didn't take the vaccine. The only conclusion is that they were not FORCED to take the vaccine. If they were actually forced to take it, then it would already be in their arms.
Just because they are not physically violated and jabed while being held down, doesn't mean that they are not being forced.

If a gun is pointed at ones head and they are told to give their money or die, they are being forced but some might say that they are being given a choice.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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1,400 healthcare didn't take it. They were obviously and undeniably not forced to take the vaccine.

They prove you wrong. End of story
But we're talking about all the healthcare employees who did take it, and felt forced to take it.
It meets the definition of the word "forced" according Merriam-Webster

 
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TV station looking for stories of unvaccinated fatalities gets flooded with reports of vaccine injuries



About a month ago, WXYZ-TV Channel 7 posted on their Facebook page looking for users who wanted to share stories about deaths among those unvaccinated against coronavirus (COVID-19). Instead, the ABC affiliate in Detroit received many stories of harm and death caused by the coronavirus vaccine.

User-shared stories include heart issues, blood clots and death
Early in September, Detroit’s ABC affiliate station asked Facebook users to share stories of unvaccinated people who have died because of coronavirus. Instead of receiving the stories they were anticipating, the station was flooded with various reports of death and injury among people who have already received the coronavirus vaccine.

The station’s post read: “After the vaccines were available to everyone, did you lose an unvaccinated loved one to COVID-19? If you’re willing to share your family’s story, please DM us your contact information. We may reach out for a story we’re working on.”

As of this writing (about a week after the FB post), the post had 212,000 comments.

Detailed below are some of the stories shared by the commenters:

  • According to Becky Burch, her aunt died one week after vaccination. They didn’t connect the death to the coronavirus vaccine until visiting another cousin who had family die after getting the shot with the same “strange” issue. While unsure of the details, Burch believes her aunt died because of the vaccine that was supposed to protect her.
  • Krista Evans said that she knew at least three people who died soon after getting vaccinated. She added that people she knew with coronavirus only had “very mild flu-like symptoms” that didn’t require the dangerous vaccine.
  • Maximilien Robespierre shared that while he didn’t personally know anyone who has died from coronavirus, he knows a 37-year-old who was vaccinated and died of a brain aneurysm eight days after getting the vaccine.
  • According to Richard Smother, his coworker’s 12-year-old daughter required emergency medical services when she collapsed one hour after getting her second shot.
Besides vaccine-related deaths, the commenters shared stories about the negative side effects caused by the vaccine, such as digestive issues, loss of sight and movement, heart attacks and blood clots.

Jessica Mauldin shared that her mother suffered a heart attack four days after getting vaccinated and that she now has a blood clot in her lung.

Meanwhile, Juli Smith said that her neighbor died because of the coronavirus vaccine. Additionally, Smith’s mother can’t feel her arms and legs. One of her close friends was also rushed to the ER several times because of debilitating headaches.

Smith lamented that her mother and friend’s doctors claim the vaccine and symptoms aren’t related. Finally, her husband’s doctor refused to let him test for coronavirus antibodies, with Smith claiming that these doctors are “complicit.”

According to the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database, by July 19, 2021, there were 419,513 adverse event reports linked to coronavirus vaccination in the country.

A total of 1,814,326 symptoms were reported, including:

  • Muscle, bone, joint pain and swelling
  • Injection site pain, bleeding, hardening and bruising
  • Reddening at the injection site or elsewhere, rashes and hives
  • Fatigue, lethargy and loss of energy
  • Headache and migraine
The truth is far from the story mainstream media is telling
View WXYZ-TV Channel 7’s Facebook post to check out more horrifying stories from users, most of which contradict the station’s aim to paint the vaccine in a positive light.

The post has been shared 192,000 times. (Related: Coronavirus vaccine injury reports now exceed 400,000 victims in the USA.)

The heavy ratio of comments about death and injury from the coronavirus vaccine paints a picture that’s the opposite of what Big Pharma and mainstream media tell citizens.

On the same day that the station asked users to share stories of death among the unvaccinated because of coronavirus, it shared the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) statistic claiming that people who didn’t get vaccinated are “11 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those fully vaccinated.”

Back in July CDC Director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky claimed that over 97 percent of hospitalizations from coronavirus were made up of unvaccinated people, but this contradicted the CDC’s own data released at the time, which said that 15 percent of in-hospital coronavirus deaths were among those who were vaccinated.

At a White House press briefing, Walensky admitted that the number didn’t include updated data from the Delta variant.

As of early August, studies in Israel suggest that coronavirus vaccines had “waning” effectiveness and that a shocking 85 to 90 percent of the hospitalizations were among those who were already fully vaccinated.

Visit VaccineInjuryNews.com for more articles about the many negative side effects of various vaccines.

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BÉZIERS, FRANCE – A 16-year-old girl died 1 month after her first Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. Melanie Macip, a student, got her first shot on July 11th. She suffered a cardiac arrest 2 days later. She was rushed to the hospital where she slipped into a comatose state in which she remained until her death on August 7th.

Mélanie Macip: 16-Year-Old Girl Suffers Cardiac Arrest Shortly After Receiving The Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine, Dies 1 Month Later : The COVID World


Teen dies of heart attack soon after getting COVID shot so he could play hockey: report
'Kids are dying from the jab,' read a sign outside an arena where the young Canadian would not have been allowed inside to play unless he was vaccinated.


Teen dies of heart attack soon after getting COVID shot so he could play hockey: report - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)
 
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shack

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Just because they are not physically violated and jabed while being held down, doesn't mean that they are not being forced.
You are correct. The fact that they didn't actually get the vaccine means that they weren't forced to.

When somebody is forced to do something, it means that they have to do it, there are not choices or options available. These people had the choice to not take it and they didn't take it. Therefore, the conclusion 100% of the time means that they were not forced. They had a choice.
 
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You are correct. The fact that they didn't actually get the vaccine means that they weren't forced to.

When somebody is forced to do something, it means that they have to do it, there are not choices or options available. These people had the choice to not take it and they didn't take it. Therefore, the conclusion 100% of the time means that they were not forced. They had a choice.
Phil doesn't know the difference between an adjective and a verb.
Forced, past tense of force, is not the same as a forced smile.
 
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Just because they are not physically violated and jabed while being held down, doesn't mean that they are not being forced.

If a gun is pointed at ones head and they are told to give their money or die, they are being forced but some might say that they are being given a choice.
While Shack may be literally correct, common sense would include a stark dire choice, not just absolutely no choice.
 

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Conflict of Interest: Reuters ‘Fact Checks’ COVID-Related Social Media Posts, But Fails to Disclose Ties to Pfizer, World Economic Forum




From the onset of the pandemic, social media giants, including Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, have flagged COVID-related posts the social media giants deem “false or misleading.”

That’s not news — most social media users are aware of the practice, especially amid recent headlines citing increased pressure from Congress and the White House to aggressively crack down on “vaccine misinformation.”

But here’s a less-publicized fact some social media users — and consumers of online news — may not know: Reuters, owned by the $40 billion international multimedia company, Thomson Reuters Corporation, is also in the business of “fact checking” social media posts.

Reuters publishes its fact-checking commentary online in a format designed to resemble new stories, which turn up in online searches.

Last week, Reuters announced a new collaboration with Twitter to “more quickly provide credible information on the social networking site as part of an effort to fight the spread of misinformation.”

In February, Reuters announced a similar partnership with Facebook to “fact check” social media posts.

However, when announcing its fact-checking partnerships with Facebook and Twitter, Reuters made no mention of this fact: The news organization has ties to Pfizer, World Economic Forum (WEF) and Trusted News Initiative (TNI), an industry collaboration of major news and global tech organizations whose stated mission is to “combat spread of harmful vaccine disinformation.”

Reuters also failed to provide any criteria for how information would be defined as “misinformation” and did not disclose the qualifications of the people responsible for determining fact versus false or misleading “misinformation.”

Physician kicked off LinkedIn for calling out Reuters’ ties to TNI, Pfizer, WEF

Dr. Robert Malone, a physician and inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA drugs, said he thinks anyone reading Reuters “fact check” articles about COVID-related content should know about, as Malone says, the obvious conflicts of interest.

On June 28, Malone tweeted this:


In the tweet, Malone showed the LinkedIn profile of Jim Smith:

“Jim Smith, who sits on Pfizer’s board, is also former president and current chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, and CEO and director of Reuters parent company, Thomson Reuters Corporation — a $1.53 billion publicly traded “provider of financial information … to businesses, governments and individuals worldwide.”

Twitter didn’t censor or remove the post. But when Malone posted the same information on LinkedIn, he was banned from the platform the next day for violating LinkedIn’s “User Agreement and Professional Community Policies against sharing content that contains misleading or inaccurate information.”

LinkedIn was purchased in 2016 for $26.2 billion by Microsoft, when the company’s co-founder Bill Gates was still at the helm. Microsoft’s COO and corporate vice president, Kirk Koenigsbauer, also serves on the board of Thomson Reuters.


Gates, who is set to profit substantially from COVID vaccine sales, still owns stock in Microsoft — about $5.1 billion, according to recent estimates. In March, Gates stepped down from Microsoft’s board, but he continues to serve as technology adviser to the tech firm’s CEO, Satya Nadella.

Malone’s LinkedIn profile was eventually restored, but only after a series of emails, initiated by Malone, between him and LinkedIn executives.


In an interview last week with The Defender, Malone discussed his Twitter and LinkedIn posts — why he made them, the reactions they elicited and why it matters that Reuters is partnering with social media companies to call out what its fact-checkers decide is “misinformation.”

Malone’s Twitter and LinkedIn posts focused on TNI and its ties to Pfizer and Reuters. In the posts, he asked his followers if they thought the fact that TNI was censoring information on COVID vaccine safety — given TNI’s ties to Pfizer and Reuters — constituted a “journalistic conflict of interest.”

“I was a little bit tongue and cheek with the question,” Malone said. “But if you go back to the LinkedIn post, there were a huge number of responses to it where people were unanimously saying this is absolutely a conflict of interest.”

Malone explained:

“What we have here is this horizontal integration across pharma, big tech, big media, government and traditional media. It’s not just the Trusted News Initiative. It goes beyond. The same thing is true with Merck and all the others. Pfizer is really playing quite aggressively here.”

In addition to the conflicts of interest Malone identified in his Twitter and LinkedIn posts, Malone said it’s the lack of transparency — whether on the part of Reuters, Facebook or TNI — around who defines “misinformation,” based on what criteria, that is concerning to him.

Malone told The Defender, based on his research, most fact checkers don’t have a background in science or health. Yet even without such qualifications, and without working off of a transparent definition of “misinformation,” fact checkers are able to shut down online communication between scientists and physicians by flagging or deleting posts.


Worse yet, Malone said, if the fact-checkers label posts by a physician, like himself, as “disinformation,” the fact-checker’s claim potentially could be used as a justification for revoking a physician’s license.

“How is this in the public’s best interest?” Malone asked.


The Pfizer-Reuters connection

As Malone pointed out in his Twitter and LinkedIn posts, Smith was appointed to Pfizer’s board in 2014.

According to Pfizer’s website, Smith is a member of the board’s audit committee and chair of the compensation committee, which among other responsibilities, establishes annual and long-term performance goals and objectives for Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and determines compensation for Bourla and the executive leadership team.

But Smith also serves as chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, which describes itself as “the corporate foundation of Thomson Reuters, the global news and information services company.”

The foundation says its mission is “to advance media freedom, foster more inclusive economies and promote human rights.”

According to its website, the foundation supports “local media to produce accurate, impartial and reliable journalism that bolsters government and business accountability and ensures public access to information.”

The foundation says it also trains “reporters around the world, promoting integrity, independence and freedom from bias in news reporting.”

But as Malone pointed out, Reuter’s fact-checking initiative regularly “fact-checks” content pertaining to COVID vaccines — including Pfizer’s vaccine — even though Smith sits on Pfizer’s board while also serving as chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation.

Connecting the dots between Pfizer, Reuters and the WEF

According to Smith’s LinkedIn profile, while serving on the boards of Pfizer and Thomson Reuters Foundation, he also sits on the board of the WEF’s Partnering Against Corruption Initiative, and is a member of the WEF’s International Business Council.

The WEF was founded in 1973 by Klaus Schwab, an 82-year-old German economist who introduced the idea of “stakeholder capitalism” — a model that positions private corporations as trustees of society.

According to its website, the Switzerland-based nonprofit is “the International Organization for Public-Private Cooperation.” The WEF website also states it “is independent, impartial and not tied to any special interests.”

Yet also according to the WEF website, its partners include: Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Moderna, Facebook, Google, Amazon, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and news organizations like TIME, Bloomberg and The New York Times.

In October 2019, WEF held a high-level pandemic live simulation exercise (Event 201) in partnership with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, using a “novel coronavirus” to “prepare public and private leaders for pandemic response.”

The WEF — and its partners — are part of a global agenda called “The Great Reset” that used the COVID pandemic to call for a “reset” of the global economy and a complete overhaul of the global population’s way of life.

Promoters of The Great Reset frame the plan as “sustainable development” and “stakeholder capitalism,” but critics of the plan say it seeks to monitor and control the world through digital surveillance, is opposed to capitalism and free enterprise, and wants to replace free society with technocracy.

WEF also partners with TPG, a leading global investment firm; Neilson, an information, data and measurement firm; McKinsey and Company, a partner of the global, information and technology practice; and the Blackstone Group.

Thomson Reuters’ current president, CEO and director, Steve Hasker, served as senior adviser to TPG Capital; CEO of CAA Global, a TPG Capital portfolio company; global president and CEO of Nielsen; and spent more than a decade with McKinsey.

On June 14, the Thomson Reuters Foundation appointed Yasir Khan as editor-in-chief to lead its team of reporters and oversee the digital transformation of its news offering. In a press release, the foundation said it expanded its news and digital team with funding from the Skoll Foundation — also a member of WEF.

In 2018, Reuters announced a strategic partnership with Blackstone. As part of the transaction, Thomson Reuters sold a 55% majority stake in its financial and risk business — one of the world’s largest providers of financial markets data and infrastructure — to private equity funds managed by Blackstone, valuing the business at $20 billion.

Conflict of Interest: Reuters ‘Fact Checks’ COVID-Related Social Media Posts, But Fails to Disclose Ties to Pfizer, World Economic Forum • Children's Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org)
 

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More died by lightning strikes. Which are statistically insignificant.

I have to laugh at people (largely conspiracy nut job covidiots) who are more afraid of a vaccine than the health destroying C-19.

Keep hiding under your bed from getting a needle jab ;
A lot more have died or have become seriously ill. Its just not on the Canadian news.

Find Florida news online and you'll see
 

shack

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While Shack may be literally correct, common sense would include a stark dire choice, not just absolutely no choice.
If you are forced to do something, by definition it means that you have to do it.

From Oxford:

make (someone) do something against their will.
"she was forced into early retirement"
 
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