Horseshit. As I said my family went through this journey seven times and never experience your scenario. I don't feel for a minute we got any special treatment. You are just digging your hole deep with this dance and almost everyone is laugh at you. The others are probably just shaking their heads. People do survive colon and liver cancer so big deal.
Will the SCOUS Strike Down Any Part of Obamacare?
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But let's be clear, despite you completely misunderstanding Obama and any of the projections on what it will do to the insurance market, and despite when called on your claim that there are better free market systems than the US and not being able to provide an example, you think people will care what your fantasy is? You should do into comedy in Asia.
You do know that not a single first world country takes your idea seriously.
Have a nice trip to wherever you are going. Maybe some drunks in a small bar in Thailand somewhere will find your ideas amusing.
yeah its a shame they don't, im sure many politicians agree with me well I know at least some do but thats political suicide here bc of all the promises that have been made that cant be kept. as it stands now our healthcare system and CPP are unsustainable. politicians years ago made these promises and now we have to pay the piper, whats happening in europe will happen her eventually if we don;t change and its going to happen in america alot sooner.
look up the wait time. I have heard stories about medicine is cuba, you actually get treated very quickly ( at least if your a tourist), there was one guy who came here after he was diagnosed in cuba with cancer they gave him chemo within 8 hours of his diagnosis and had all these tests done it was pretty amazing. my guess is there in cuba you dont become a nurse or doctor for the money its bc you want too help people, and they don;t have all these useless bureaucrats in their system its all front line workers. they work around the clock from what I hear completely different from hospitals in canada and yes I know cuba is communist. in canada our system is only good if your hit by a bus, then you are a priority. if you arnt in critical condition it blows
Except that our outcomes are better than Cuba's. So if you like anecdotal stories somebody might buy into your shit. The hard data says if you have a serious medical problem, you are far more likely to have a good outcome here, than in Cuba.
It seems you simply force yourself to ignore facts that don't fit your worldview.
I realize there are these estimates out there, but like many stats there are reasons. Just like the ones which show the average wait time in Emergency Wait Rooms. 80% of those people don't need to be there and could get fast effective service at walk-ins. The few times i've been to Emergency, the longest time I ever waited was 90 minutes for non serious help. The other times I was looked at in ~15 minutes.
Waits times also take in to consideration of wait time for small towns, without specialist or facilities for any services, your wait time in Emmers Corners isn't going to be the same as in Toronto. People complain about wait times for MRI's. If you go for your MRI at a hospital in Toronto you're not doing yourself a service. You can go the many MRI clinics around the province especially in the GTA. The three most recent times I've needed one for diagnoses, I've ben able to get one in under a week, if not next day. In one instance, I was told it would be two weeks, but after telling them my story, they said if I could get there in 20 minutes they could help me out. I'm sure they heard the door slam on my way out to the driveway. They stayed late, to help me out. I don't for a second think I'm that impoortant, but just very interactive in my care. We may have to wait a bit, but we live longer than the in theUS and don't have to mortgage our life to fight a serious illness.
I know, you heard of a guy who has a buddy who went overseas to get help.
Believe it or not there lots of medical professionals who don't do it for the money in Canada as well.
You've been all over the map in this thread. Every time you get bogged down in errors and idiocy, you go off on a tangent that has little to do with your original point; first Singapore and Hong Kong, now Cuba. It's a hoot.
I should be more specific, It wasnt hearsay the guy was a patient at my hospital, so I spoke to the man himself. he languished in the hospital at a cost to taxpayers of 2k a day for one week before he got a confirmed diagnosis bc cuban doctors are looked down on, they diagnosed him in 24 hours and began treatment before that. In the end after a week in my hospital doing nothing the doctors here reaffirmed the cubans diagnosis... then he was discharged and told he had an appointment with a specialist in a month
Oh, so that's one. Now the rest of the system is bad as well. In my circles cuban doctor aren't looked down on. As a matter of fact they are admire that they are able to do what they do with the system they work in. I'm guessing you listened to the the doctors talking around the coffee table on their breaks about how much they hate foreign doctors, so you would know.
Some might think my seven beats your one.
You might now be the stupidest person on this board.
Firstly, Chavez may not have been able to get treatment anywhere in the world, and it would have been political suicide for him to get treatment in the US.
What do you think the numbers are for medical tourism to Cuba compared to elsewhere and why do you think they go to Cuba from time to time?
And more importantly you are defeating your own argument. Health care in Cuba is completely government run. There are no private clinics or heatlhcare in Cuba.
you are now praising something you hated a few posts ago.
Maybe you should go back to the vet argument...
Oh...and now you are lying...there is a healthy medical tourism market to Canada.
http://www.allmedicaltourism.com/articles/destinations/canada/
Congrats. On two fronts you have proven yourself an idiot in one post. Well played.
lol wait im the biggest idiot on the board? chavez was facing fucking death do you really think he cared about politics? My point is he went to cuba when he COULD have gone anywhere in the world for treatment, and would have easily gone to the u.s. had he pleased. Canada would have been at the bottom of his list, and please give me a break canada is at the bottom when it comes to medical tourism. more ppl go to the states, mexico, brazil, and yes cuba. only poorer canadian citizens who can;t afford private care that live abroad come to canadian hospitals for healthcare cuz its free.
canada does have the latest technology I will say that, obviously we do, but we can't compete especially when it comes to price. sure we would easily surpass a third world country. chavez just needed chemo, that can be done in cuba easily. if he needed serious brain surgery or a very risky medical procedure, im sure he would have gone to the states but I would bet my life he'd never come here. from my recent memory I remember danny williams the former premier of nfld went to the states for a heart operation a few years back and was heavily criticized here he would have gotten it for FREE in canada
Looks like Cuba does pretty well against Cancer
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Monday declared himself fully recovered from cancer and ready to return to the streets for his re-election campaign ahead of an October vote. "Free, free, totally free," an ebullient Chavez told reporters when asked if he was free of the disease that struck a year ago. The 57-year-old socialist leader, who has dominated the South American OPEC member since taking power in 1999, was first diagnosed with cancer in the pelvic region in the middle of last year. ...
Venezuela's Chavez says "totally free" of cancer, again
CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Monday declared himself fully recovered from cancer and ready to return to the streets for his re-election campaign ahead of an October vote. "Free, free, totally free," an ebullient Chavez told reporters when asked if he was free of the disease that struck a year ago. The 57-year-old socialist leader, who has dominated the South American OPEC member since taking power in 1999, was first diagnosed with cancer in the pelvic region in the middle of last year. ...
Msog will be very disappointed. But then he's been 0 for everything lately. You'd think he'd learn but he seems determined to make a fool of himself.
I'm beginning to wonder if he is JAJA reincarnated!!!
They BOTH think the same.....FFS!!!....
You discredit pappy. He was never this bad.I'm beginning to wonder if he is JAJA reincarnated!!!
They BOTH think the same.....FFS!!!....
I am all in favour of the universal public health care system, but that does not change the fact, that the canadian system is very deficient. I have personally had to go to the US several times to get timely treatment. I am not prepared to wait 2 or 3 months to see a specialist for life threatening conditions.
finally an honest post, but you have to understand the system is only going to get worse especially with all the boomers over age 60. the public sector always grows in cost and falls in quality look at public transit, canada post etc. the only solution is, cover your eyes.....privatization
