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wet_suit_one

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I don't really see CM slandering theists. He's giving evidence (tons and tons of evidence) that supports his arguments (which are very very sparse) and posting the arguments of others that support his position. Recently folks have been berating CM for not saying anything original himself.

I also don't see him discriminating against theists. I think he's just trying to call them out on their bullshit. Say like a black person in the United States calling out the bullshit of the Declaration of Independence and the idea of "all men being created equal" etc. This would especially so be the case before the 1960's and the Civil Rights Act and obviously rather less so in this day and age where Obama is President. However, if one looks at the history of the U.S. and fails to see the utter bullshit it was founded upon for someone looking at it from a black person's perspective, well, they're just not right in the head.
 

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Proposed Georgia Law: Death Penalty for Abortions

Newser) – Legislatively speaking, some might say this year has been tough on women (see here, here, and here), but Jen Phillips thinks she’s found the bill that takes the cake: In Georgia, State Rep. Bobby Franklin wants to criminalize not just abortions—but miscarriages as well. His 10-page bill would make any “prenatal murder” a felony punishable by death or life in prison—and that includes miscarriages, in the event the woman cannot prove that there was "no human involvement whatsoever in the causation" of her miscarriage, Phillips reports in Mother Jones.

Franklin—who’s known for introducing unconventional bills and has also proposed calling rape and domestic violence victims “accusers” instead of “victims”—doesn't define "human involvement" in the bill. That could be a problem, Phillips notes, since doctors still don’t know exactly what causes miscarriages. The bill would also mandate that women must protect their fetuses from "the moment of conception." (Meanwhile, a Nebraska state senator proposes a bill that would make it legal to kill abortion doctors; click here to read.)

http://www.newser.com/story/112773/...scarriages-abortions-punishable-by-death.html


Lake Zurich School Board Candidates Want Creationism Taught

The entire slate of candidates running for school board in Oklahoma Lake Zurich say that they are all for science teachers introducing creationism in their classrooms.

During candidate interviews with the Daily Herald, three incumbents and one newcomer running for three available four year school board terms said that when evolution is brought up in the classroom, creationism should be, too. One candidate, Chris Wallace, even seemed to imply that creationism should usurp evolution in the science curriculum:

"Creationism to me is factual," [Wallace] said. "Darwinism is a theory."

Another candidate, Doug Goldberg, reportedly stated:

"Yes, [creationism should be taught]. Clearly, religion in general is a big part of our daily lives as Americans. I believe that allowing a student to be exposed to the theory of creationism is a relevant and reasonable thing to do."

Goldberg then admitted he had no idea the "legal ramifications" of teaching creationism in Lake Zurich public schools. We're happy to offer you a refresher, Mr. Goldberg.

In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 7-2 decision, ruled that a law in Louisiana which required creationism or "creation science" be taught alongside evolution did in fact violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The majority opinion stated that the law's "primary purpose was to change the public school science curriculum to provide persuasive advantage to a particular religious doctrine that rejects the factual basis of evolution in its entirety."

http://chicagoist.com/2011/02/26/lake_zurich_school_board_candidates.php
 

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CM;

I'm beginning to think we should dub you DM II. It's clear you don't want to speak for yourself. These C&P's simply tell me you spend a lot of time Googling and not much time thinking or reading. They don't strengthen your position. They just show there are a few others who think like you. Not hard to do, but now you're using comments from some minor fringe weekend blogger commenting on a local issue, involving 8 elementary schools and 4 candidates looking to be elected, in Chicago. No way a major ground swell or a done deal, but that's the impression you're trying to reflect.
 

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Military chaplain: Soldier’s rape ‘must have been God’s will’

WASHINGTON – A lawsuit targeting the Pentagon contains an astonishing anecdote about a retired Sergeant's experience after being sexually assaulted by a colleague during a deployment to Afghanistan.

The lawsuit, available here (PDF), was filed by 17 military women against Secretaries of Defense Robert Gates and Donald Rumsfeld in Virginia. It assails "the military's repeated failures to take action in rape cases created a culture where violence against women was tolerated, violating the plaintiffs' Constitutional rights."

Sergeant Rebekah Havrilla alleges in the complaint that in 2006, after her military supervisor repeatedly sexually harassed her, she was raped by a colleague she was working with at the time.

"He pulled her into his bed, held her down, and raped her. He also photographed the rape," it reads. Havrilla reported the incident within a month.

In February 2009, she reported for active duty training and, upon seeing her rapist, went into shock.

"She immediately sought the assistance of the military chaplain," the lawsuit reads. "When SGT Havrilla met with the military chaplain, he told her that 'it must have been God's will for her to be raped' and recommended that she attend church more frequently."

The complains adds that "SGT Havrilla suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder and chronic depression."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/18/military-chaplain-soldiers-rape-must-have-been-gods-will/




In an Alberta town, parents fight for a secular education

It wasn’t until her seven-year-old son asked her if he’d burn in hell that Marjorie Kirsop became concerned.

A Catholic education is the only local option for the Kirsop family and everyone else in Morinville, Alta., a community of 8,100 northwest of Edmonton. It’s a unique situation, rooted in the town’s origins as an outpost of French-Canadian Catholicism in the late 1800s. But this fall, when five-year-old Sarah Kirsop declared she had converted to Catholicism, her mother joined a group of local families who are challenging the status quo.

Their campaign for religion-free public education has met resistance from the local public school board – the Greater St. Albert Catholic Regional Division – and drawn little more than a polite hearing from local politicians and Alberta’s Ministry of Education.

The dissident families, who number between five and 15 depending on who is counting, say they want what other Canadians have: freedom of religion, or, in this case, freedom from religion.

The Alberta School Act allows children to be excused from religious or patriotic exercises or instruction. “But in a Catholic school, the entire curriculum is permeated with the Catholic theology, hence the problem,” said Frank Peters, an expert in school governance and a professor of education at the University of Alberta.

The parents see their predicament more personally.

“When every other public school division, not just in Alberta, in the country is non-denominational, how can our public school division tell all of our children, ‘It’s Catholic education, you’re the problem and you should leave?’” said Donna Hunter, a Morinville mother and member of the group.

The school district says it has tried to accommodate the Morinville parents, even offering to pay to have their children bused to another district. District superintendent David Keohane said that the students’ commute wouldn’t be much longer than it already is, less than 20 minutes.

The parents filed an appeal with Alberta Education in January and are waiting to hear back. But Mr. Keohane has come to believe the Morinville parents will settle for nothing less than a secular school in their town, and his district isn’t willing to hand one over one of the four schools that it administers in Morinville.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ion/article1931158/singlepage/#articlecontent
 

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Canada-Man stoops to a new deceiving low proving his lack of honesty and integrity know no bounds.

After a series of important events in the world of religion and the study of religion in the last few weeks he vommits up more unrelated articles in an attempt to buttress his thoughtless hatred.

Let's take a look at both articles shall we and see what they are really about.

The first one is about a lawsuit by military women who say they were raped because the military institutions did not protect them adequately. This of course has nothing to do with religion or its function.

The second article is about whether or not the local and provincial government in Alberta are willing to fund a public school for a certain geographic area. The Catholics have built a school in the area. Now CM wants us to conclude, that it is the fault of the Catholics that the government has not built a school. Have you lost your mind CM? This is specious, even for your rock bottom standards.

The really sad thing about it is that every time you lie and mislead and post irrelevant drivel, you insult the people who come to this board. Not only do you not show any signs of ability to reason or be honest, you don't respect other members of the community.
 

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"She immediately sought the assistance of the military chaplain," the lawsuit reads. "When SGT Havrilla met with the military chaplain, he told her that 'it must have been God's will for her to be raped' and recommended that she attend church more frequently."
That is certainly NOT considered acceptable conduct.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/02/ap-general-army-investigating-assault-complaints-021611/



"The dissident families, who number between five and 15. . . . The school district says it has tried to accommodate the Morinville parents, even offering to pay to have their children bused to another district. District superintendent David Keohane said that the students’ commute wouldn’t be much longer than it already is, less than 20 minutes.
So they have been offered reasonable accommodation and have refused the same
 

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the lady went to a self-appointed chaplain who dehumanize her claiming she need his God and should go to church

the second one involves a PUBLIC-TAXPAYER FUNDED school brainwashing kids with offensive religious propaganda without the consent of his parent(s)


these are news stories involving religious coercion and intimidation.
 

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In Georgia, State Rep. Bobby Franklin;who’s known for introducing unconventional bills and has also proposed calling rape and domestic violence victims “accusers” instead of “victims”—doesn't define "human involvement" in the bill.
Do you honestly believe that this bill has any chance of becoming law?
 
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