Who here has had this experience....?

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Now…. Just to balance things. The girls in the industry are real people too. They have lives, and families… and yes, sometimes they meet people they like, even while at work. Truthfully… treating an SP like normal human being goes a long way.

I briefly dated an SP. Never wanted a thing from me. And while it was off the charts lunacy otherwise…. She was quite a charming girl.

So don’t every girl with same brush.
True. the one girl who told me to text her anytime was also the one who wrote "who is this?" She really did shut it off when she was off duty - like she was 0% SW as soon as she clocks out.

I think i'm a preferred customer because I tip, give massages, and have a small dick...good customer, but not good enough to date. so they probably somewhat meant what they said when they were with me but off-duty, they don't have any feelings towards me. on the other hand, I still keep the same feelings towards them after the sessions end.
 

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I find this to be very hit or miss in terms of genuineness.
I've had SP's send me several nude pics or videos, followed by telling me full-on things about their private lives and we should hang out sometime... and poof, ghosted.
On the flip I've got out with a few SPs socially and even seen a few casually several times a week. Sometimes you get lucky and click, sometimes you don't.
Remember that SP's are still normal women with needs, and being a service provider to many of them is just a job.
So why not look for your next potential partner in a paid rendezvous? Sure beats the hassle of dating in this fucking city lol.
 

philandsararecordings

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After telling both SPs off, one bridge is burnt. I think she's too stubborn to realize how confusing the situation was for me. The other, we sorted out via text and now have a very good business-only relationship.
 
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We’re these girls somewhat realistic? I mean I’m a 50 year old somewhat overweight guy. If a drop dead gorgeous 25 year old girl comes on to me….. I bet it’s money she’s after. On the other hand, I don’t think I’m ugly, and I can be a nice guy…. I can believe I’ve had a good personal connection with a 45 year old provider that happened to match personalities with me. I have gone out with a couple girls casually.
 

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GTA & Thereabouts...
I've been given phone numbers and asked to grab a bite a few times. All times were with SPs closer to my age and where we've seemingly clicked. I regret never following through...

Looking back, it probably would have been more fun and rewarding. You've just seen each other naked, made out, fucked and had some fun. That's a pretty honest situation. Certainly worth buying the lady a meal and shooting the shit.

Call me old-fashioned.
 

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We’re these girls somewhat realistic? I mean I’m a 50 year old somewhat overweight guy. If a drop dead gorgeous 25 year old girl comes on to me….. I bet it’s money she’s after. On the other hand, I don’t think I’m ugly, and I can be a nice guy…. I can believe I’ve had a good personal connection with a 45 year old provider that happened to match personalities with me. I have gone out with a couple girls casually.
That's a good question...

they seemed very realistic to me but I'm fairly new to the hobby and some vets scoff at me via PM at how naive I was. Maybe you could help me out more than I can help you out, (if others could, please do as well, as I have no idea what i did wrong...)

I'm not young - divorced, single dad, early-40s, perhaps a bit more fit than the average 'dad bod' but nothing crazy, 'fun-sized' endowment, not 'perfectly white'. these 2 girls are both 21 to 25 y.o. STRAIGHT UP DIMES - NO CAP - SP#1 white girl, SP#2 latina - different agencies. Upon my divorce, I started in the hobby, and SP #1 was the first SP after ~5 bookings that I really thought was hot; I was ready to quit the hobby if I hadn't met her. SP#2 I saw when #1 was on her period, and by chance, she happened to be a unicorn as well...

Even in hindsight, it seemed real in both cases. They both were the ones who initiated meeting outside of work, and in both instances, I initially rejected the notion. They both gave me details about our dates...in both cases, the dates were completely unsolicited by me. I reflected on this a lot to see if I was out of line, and in both instances, I don't know how they could have expected me to have reacted any differently.....

In real life, SP#1 didn't suggest Indian Food. She repeatedly said we should "go out for Sushi" even though I never said I liked Sushi (I suppose she does?). The first few times she mentioned it, I completely ignored her comments. She kept mentioning it, so instead of ignoring it, I dismissed it and say, "I don't think you mean it" or "You say that to everyone..." In hindsight, it seemed like she wanted to prove that she meant it so she gave me her real full name and number shortly after...I half-jokingly said, "I'm going to cry" when she told me her number. I don't know how she can claim we were only going to "go out as friends". This is what she got mad about later on, she said, she expected me to be "adults about it" and just have lunch even though she was repeatedly whispering sweet-nothings to me over and over again (I told her I knew she was just doing her job, she said she repeatedly said 'no', and that she didn't say it to other guys and she really meant it).

SP #2 gave me an exact weekend that I would take her out to a specific location (a Turkish spa downtown). She told me that she usually takes Uber...but on the date, I'd have to pick her up/drop her off from her home. All those details were her ideas, not mine.


i really wonder what is real/not; and what they say to other people. They both seem picky about clients (based on experience, conversations, and comparing my mileage to other reviews).

As mentioned by another member, each situation is different.....I agree....at the same time, IMO, I think neither of the 2 SPs that did this to me really realized what they were doing. Maybe to them, they meant what they said on-duty, but then clocked out and they no longer felt what they said in the moment.

SP #1 completely blamed me entirely even though she was the one who initiated meeting/contacting each other outside of work. I would have been perfectly okay with having a professional relationship but she kept pushing the extracurricular stuff until I got excited that it would happen. Then when I got excited about it, she thinks I'm crazy.... She literally told me to text her any time the last session I saw her, then when I did, she replied, "Who's this?" That's when I told her off, and then she told me off in return...bridge burned. I'm over it and don't care - I've been thru much much worse - divorce, abortion, etc.... We both have personal details about each other so if we wanted to destroy each other, we would have done it already.

SP #2 gave a half-assed apology which I was okay with...after losing SP #1, I didn't want to push too hard for a real one. We just agreed to have a business relationship, which was the best situation for the both of us. She's my current fav (she knows my handle and pretty sure she cyberstalks me....luv you so much mamacita!), and I'll keep seeing her - although I won't tip or give presents anymore...no point in being nice when it's only business.

Lessons Learned for:

Johns (even if you're 40+): you're still naive, and these young 'uns are pros....they're still playing you whether they/you realize it or not.

Super hot 20-something y.o. dimes: someone could be a lot older than you and still be a rookie and not realize that what you're doing is "part of the game".
 

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Lol … it’s all business for them. 99% of the time she’s saying the same thing to a bunch of other guys. That way you like her and you want to go see her more often.
Don’t fall for it. Sometimes they even give you a wrong number so you go back thinking it was a mistake. It’s just a game for some of them.
You have a better chance buying a lottery ticket.
That's a good question...

they seemed very realistic to me but I'm fairly new to the hobby and some vets scoff at me via PM at how naive I was. Maybe you could help me out more than I can help you out, (if others could, please do as well, as I have no idea what i did wrong...)

I'm not young - divorced, single dad, early-40s, perhaps a bit more fit than the average 'dad bod' but nothing crazy, 'fun-sized' endowment, not 'perfectly white'. these 2 girls are both 21 to 25 y.o. STRAIGHT UP DIMES - NO CAP - SP#1 white girl, SP#2 latina - different agencies. Upon my divorce, I started in the hobby, and SP #1 was the first SP after ~5 bookings that I really thought was hot; I was ready to quit the hobby if I hadn't met her. SP#2 I saw when #1 was on her period, and by chance, she happened to be a unicorn as well...

Even in hindsight, it seemed real in both cases. They both were the ones who initiated meeting outside of work, and in both instances, I initially rejected the notion. They both gave me details about our dates...in both cases, the dates were completely unsolicited by me. I reflected on this a lot to see if I was out of line, and in both instances, I don't know how they could have expected me to have reacted any differently.....

In real life, SP#1 didn't suggest Indian Food. She repeatedly said we should "go out for Sushi" even though I never said I liked Sushi (I suppose she does?). The first few times she mentioned it, I completely ignored her comments. She kept mentioning it, so instead of ignoring it, I dismissed it and say, "I don't think you mean it" or "You say that to everyone..." In hindsight, it seemed like she wanted to prove that she meant it so she gave me her real full name and number shortly after...I half-jokingly said, "I'm going to cry" when she told me her number. I don't know how she can claim we were only going to "go out as friends". This is what she got mad about later on, she said, she expected me to be "adults about it" and just have lunch even though she was repeatedly whispering sweet-nothings to me over and over again (I told her I knew she was just doing her job, she said she repeatedly said 'no', and that she didn't say it to other guys and she really meant it).

SP #2 gave me an exact weekend that I would take her out to a specific location (a Turkish spa downtown). She told me that she usually takes Uber...but on the date, I'd have to pick her up/drop her off from her home. All those details were her ideas, not mine.


i really wonder what is real/not; and what they say to other people. They both seem picky about clients (based on experience, conversations, and comparing my mileage to other reviews).

As mentioned by another member, each situation is different.....I agree....at the same time, IMO, I think neither of the 2 SPs that did this to me really realized what they were doing. Maybe to them, they meant what they said on-duty, but then clocked out and they no longer felt what they said in the moment.

SP #1 completely blamed me entirely even though she was the one who initiated meeting/contacting each other outside of work. I would have been perfectly okay with having a professional relationship but she kept pushing the extracurricular stuff until I got excited that it would happen. Then when I got excited about it, she thinks I'm crazy.... She literally told me to text her any time the last session I saw her, then when I did, she replied, "Who's this?" That's when I told her off, and then she told me off in return...bridge burned. I'm over it and don't care - I've been thru much much worse - divorce, abortion, etc.... We both have personal details about each other so if we wanted to destroy each other, we would have done it already.

SP #2 gave a half-assed apology which I was okay with...after losing SP #1, I didn't want to push too hard for a real one. We just agreed to have a business relationship, which was the best situation for the both of us. She's my current fav (she knows my handle and pretty sure she cyberstalks me....luv you so much mamacita!), and I'll keep seeing her - although I won't tip or give presents anymore...no point in being nice when it's only business.

Lessons Learned for:

Johns (even if you're 40+): you're still naive, and these young 'uns are pros....they're still playing you whether they/you realize it or not.

Super hot 20-something y.o. dimes: someone could be a lot older than you and still be a rookie and not realize that what you're doing is "part of the game".
They are professional actresses, they want attention and validation, they can get jealous of other sps.
 

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That's a good question...

they seemed very realistic to me but I'm fairly new to the hobby and some vets scoff at me via PM at how naive I was. Maybe you could help me out more than I can help you out, (if others could, please do as well, as I have no idea what i did wrong...)

I'm not young - divorced, single dad, early-40s, perhaps a bit more fit than the average 'dad bod' but nothing crazy, 'fun-sized' endowment, not 'perfectly white'. these 2 girls are both 21 to 25 y.o. STRAIGHT UP DIMES - NO CAP - SP#1 white girl, SP#2 latina - different agencies. Upon my divorce, I started in the hobby, and SP #1 was the first SP after ~5 bookings that I really thought was hot; I was ready to quit the hobby if I hadn't met her. SP#2 I saw when #1 was on her period, and by chance, she happened to be a unicorn as well...

Even in hindsight, it seemed real in both cases. They both were the ones who initiated meeting outside of work, and in both instances, I initially rejected the notion. They both gave me details about our dates...in both cases, the dates were completely unsolicited by me. I reflected on this a lot to see if I was out of line, and in both instances, I don't know how they could have expected me to have reacted any differently.....

In real life, SP#1 didn't suggest Indian Food. She repeatedly said we should "go out for Sushi" even though I never said I liked Sushi (I suppose she does?). The first few times she mentioned it, I completely ignored her comments. She kept mentioning it, so instead of ignoring it, I dismissed it and say, "I don't think you mean it" or "You say that to everyone..." In hindsight, it seemed like she wanted to prove that she meant it so she gave me her real full name and number shortly after...I half-jokingly said, "I'm going to cry" when she told me her number. I don't know how she can claim we were only going to "go out as friends". This is what she got mad about later on, she said, she expected me to be "adults about it" and just have lunch even though she was repeatedly whispering sweet-nothings to me over and over again (I told her I knew she was just doing her job, she said she repeatedly said 'no', and that she didn't say it to other guys and she really meant it).

SP #2 gave me an exact weekend that I would take her out to a specific location (a Turkish spa downtown). She told me that she usually takes Uber...but on the date, I'd have to pick her up/drop her off from her home. All those details were her ideas, not mine.


i really wonder what is real/not; and what they say to other people. They both seem picky about clients (based on experience, conversations, and comparing my mileage to other reviews).

As mentioned by another member, each situation is different.....I agree....at the same time, IMO, I think neither of the 2 SPs that did this to me really realized what they were doing. Maybe to them, they meant what they said on-duty, but then clocked out and they no longer felt what they said in the moment.

SP #1 completely blamed me entirely even though she was the one who initiated meeting/contacting each other outside of work. I would have been perfectly okay with having a professional relationship but she kept pushing the extracurricular stuff until I got excited that it would happen. Then when I got excited about it, she thinks I'm crazy.... She literally told me to text her any time the last session I saw her, then when I did, she replied, "Who's this?" That's when I told her off, and then she told me off in return...bridge burned. I'm over it and don't care - I've been thru much much worse - divorce, abortion, etc.... We both have personal details about each other so if we wanted to destroy each other, we would have done it already.

SP #2 gave a half-assed apology which I was okay with...after losing SP #1, I didn't want to push too hard for a real one. We just agreed to have a business relationship, which was the best situation for the both of us. She's my current fav (she knows my handle and pretty sure she cyberstalks me....luv you so much mamacita!), and I'll keep seeing her - although I won't tip or give presents anymore...no point in being nice when it's only business.

Lessons Learned for:

Johns (even if you're 40+): you're still naive, and these young 'uns are pros....they're still playing you whether they/you realize it or not.

Super hot 20-something y.o. dimes: someone could be a lot older than you and still be a rookie and not realize that what you're doing is "part of the game".
Sorry dude. You tipped well and gave the girl presents. You are a nice guy and it put a target on your wallet. Girls half your age? I guess girls can have daddy issues, but sounds much more like you were an easy mark. It’s all good, you are paying for a fantasy so enjoy it. Just keep that little bit of knowledge in the back of your mind that it is fantasy. Spoil the girl a little if you can afford it and have fun. Just leave it at fun, don’t get emotionally attached. Nothing wrong with some role playing.
 

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If girls can smell you're a simp, they will take you for a ride.

This is more true then ever as the internet has enabled women to monetize this moreSo then ever in history.

On the other hand, internet dating apps, defeated + demoralized men (alot of which from horrible marriages/divorces), disney movie romance 'instructions', woke culture, the majority of consumerism directed towards women (but requiring their husbands to pay the tab to keep them happy) ... have made many men into unaware, absurdy easy (and willing) simp-prey.

if in doubt, get a second opinion before it gets out of control.

Lessons Learned for:

Johns (even if you're 40+): you're still naive, and these young 'uns are pros....they're still playing you whether they/you realize it or not.

Super hot 20-something y.o. dimes: someone could be a lot older than you and still be a rookie and not realize that what you're doing is "part of the game".
Sorry dude. You tipped well and gave the girl presents. You are a nice guy and it put a target on your wallet. Girls half your age? I guess girls can have daddy issues, but sounds much more like you were an easy mark. It’s all good, you are paying for a fantasy so enjoy it. Just keep that little bit of knowledge in the back of your mind that it is fantasy. Spoil the girl a little if you can afford it and have fun. Just leave it at fun, don’t get emotionally attached. Nothing wrong with some role playing.
 
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If girls can smell you're a simp, they will take you for a ride.

This is more true then ever as the internet has enabled women to monetize this moreSo then ever in history.

On the other hand, internet dating apps, defeated + demoralized men (alot of which from horrible marriages/divorces), disney movie romance 'instructions', woke culture, the majority of consumerism directed towards women (but requiring their husbands to pay the tab to keep them happy) ... have made many men into unaware, absurdy easy (and willing) simp-prey.

if in doubt, get a second opinion before it gets out of control.
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also, if in doubt if there is a chance these young SPs are being 'real' or not, look at the quality of your own real life dates/girlfriends/affairs both current/in the past.

If your only matching with late 30s->mid/late 40s single single moms, or just out of shape/don't have their shit together/not very feminine type of women .... AND you STILL have a hard time getting them to commit to a first date.... then it's time to take a real hard look in the mirror/within on where you stand with women. i've learned to stop underestimating the amount of 30, 40, 50+ year old deprived simps out there.

now if you're consistently able to land matches, 2nd/3rd dates with good looking women 10-15 years your junior, AND are getting that fountain-of-youth bedroom fun with them..... then i'd say there is a substantially higher chance that these 25 year old SP pros 'genuinely' do want to hang out with outside of 'work'.

again, step outside of yourself and keep it real. i'm not guaranteeing anything, just merely looking at the chances of what's probable.

OP - early 40s isnt all that bad - adjust that diet, add a little more cardio, and add a little more time in the gym. it can completely transform your overall aura/energy/attractiveness as a man, regardless of age. of course, this goes for everyone (some of my 40+ year old single female friends should be desperately applying this).
 
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this time you were will smith, next time you'll be chris rock.

I'm such an easy mark, I'm dumb enough to do that.

I actually told them both off and I regret that because I'll never see either of them again. Especially one in particular, man...she was amazing but I got emotional about it.

Wish I could have controlled my emotions better:

You live and learn.
 
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