Who dresses their little girls like this?
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In pre-perestroika Eastern Europe about a quarter century ago, I saw a kid with his family, he was wearing a "Certified Muff Diver" t-shirt--of course, that may have been a little different...
Hmmm...past middle aged men who see escorts critiquing current pre-teen female fashion trends....I gotta laugh at this one.
Not sure I see the humour... we should support the sexualizing of young children? Perhaps some of us also prefer SPs who have some measure of class and decorum... I generally find crassness or bad taste offensive, in all walks of life. It is certainly not something to cultivate in children...rama putri said:
Let's face it.. a lot of parents have lost control over their kids. They have no idea how to bring them in line, and let the kids run the show. I have seen it many times, and it is always pathetic. Just yesterday, buying supplies for my pets, and some lady is telling her kid to stop lipping her off or... or... or... something will happen (she was just not sure what).
I remember American Apparel coming under fire for it's "soft porn" ads featuring young woman. Some say it was exploitive. However one only needs to take a trip to the mall to see many young woman, teens, dressing rather provocatively by their own choice.
Maybe I'm getting old but I don't think teenage girls should be wearing short skirts and push up bras.
Maybe I'm getting old but I don't think teenage girls should be wearing short skirts and push up bras.
Blah blah blah.MrLuvr said:
Are you able to provide one actual example of this happening? Not "my friend's hair dresser's half cousin" or "there's lots of examples" - a real circumstance.
This is a bullshit urban myth/excuse that's used by parents who are too busy/lazy to actually act like parents.
Any parent who says they are "mortified" at the thought of disciplining their child is either a moron or a liar.
Two points..and an idea
My ex and I where at home and my son fell over backwards while being changed, he was about 6-8 months old. Being new parents we took him to the hospital just to be safe as he had a small bump. They said they wanted to keep him in for observation, found this a bit strange but again being good parents we agreed, turns out the reason they kept him in a C/A worker was not available at the time. The next day she turns up with a million or so questions. Had to have our home inspected and family and neighbours interviewed. Which luckily she did all in one day as I was explained that they do not do this on weekend and my son would have to stay at the hospital or in care until the investigation was completed. so yes it does happen.
Second point...
My new love works in the child health care industry. The truth is, that all it takes is a suspicion and they are at your front door to remove the child. It is their job. if a teacher, doctor, police or anyone who has contact with that child has the smallest thought they are abused they are obligated to call C/A
And you are guilty untill proven innocent.
Idea.
I heard this on the news a while back. A parent was at their witts end with their non-respective child. who was spoilled and wanted for nothing. Just would not do what he was told and would threaten the parents with C/A every time a threat or punishment was directed his way.
Finally they came up with this idea...
They went to C/A and got a copy of the guidlines that lists all thing you must provide to your child. Went home and showed it to him and said if he didnt pull up his socks that they would provide him exactly what is required by law to conform with the C/A guidlines.
3 meals, a cot, regular ( not daily) showers, etc etc
No tv, video,cdplayer, bike, fancy clothes,trips, junk food, allowance etc, etc
Apparently it worked.....
Well , actually yes.The Shake said:
My ex and I where at home and my son fell over backwards while being changed, he was about 6-8 months old. Being new parents we took him to the hospital just to be safe as he had a small bump. They said they wanted to keep him in for observation, found this a bit strange but again being good parents we agreed, turns out the reason they kept him in a C/A worker was not available at the time. The next day she turns up with a million or so questions. Had to have our home inspected and family and neighbours interviewed. Which luckily she did all in one day as I was explained that they do not do this on weekend and my son would have to stay at the hospital or in care until the investigation was completed. so yes it does happen.
Second point...
My new love works in the child health care industry. The truth is, that all it takes is a suspicion and they are at your front door to remove the child. It is their job. if a teacher, doctor, police or anyone who has contact with that child has the smallest thought they are abused they are obligated to call C/A
And you are guilty untill proven innocent.
Idea.
I heard this on the news a while back. A parent was at their witts end with their non-respective child. who was spoilled and wanted for nothing. Just would not do what he was told and would threaten the parents with C/A every time a threat or punishment was directed his way.
Finally they came up with this idea...
They went to C/A and got a copy of the guidlines that lists all thing you must provide to your child. Went home and showed it to him and said if he didnt pull up his socks that they would provide him exactly what is required by law to conform with the C/A guidlines.
3 meals, a cot, regular ( not daily) showers, etc etc
No tv, video,cdplayer, bike, fancy clothes,trips, junk food, allowance etc, etc
Apparently it worked.....
I can see that.Garrett said:
Did I say that? You're better at interpreting my thoughts than I am. I have this feeling that YOU are turned on by their dress, so to fix YOUR problem, you blame the young girls. Boring blame the victim syndrome. Many pedophiles express the same logic.
What does this have to do with the way young women dress today? Remember that perhaps what you view as as a measure of class may possibly crass to your grandfather.
So if children don't dress to YOUR tastes, they are crass and uncultivated?
Discipline and dress codes are only in the domain of the military dude. Lighten up.
Well, actually no.Coldasice said:
I'm sorry that this happened to you, but this is hardly an example of a parent being unable to discipline her child for fear of "retribution". A medical professional observed injuries that hinted at abuse. Given that suspicion, they were obligated to report it, and the CAS was obligated to investigate. Good. Although I'm sure that you are a wonderful and loving father, there have been far too many children who have been let down by their doctors/teachers/etc. who saw clear signs of abuse, but wouldn't speak up. Ask Randall Dooley. Oh wait, you can't.
So, I again ask for a real example of a child (falsely) screaming abuse, that child being taken away from her parents, and those parents being prosecuted.
Again, that simply isn't the case (other than the obligation of teachers/doctors/etc. to report their suspicions). Child removals are extremely rare in Ontario and typically involve families with notable case histories. (As an aside, a study in London observed that in 40% of child removals, the parents had actually been involved in "the system" as children themselves). The most recent figure (for Ontario) that I could find was 16,000 children under care of the government. There are roughly 2.5 million kids (<14) in the province. You do the math.
This takes effort and, as I said before, the reason why parents don't discipline their children is because they are too lazy and/or busy, not because they are terrified of the CAS.
In answer to you Rama.
No, because I don't think 14 year olds should be dressed in a sexually provocative manner. I don't think it's appropriate for that age. I mean...who are they trying to attract and why?
What's the big hurry to be or look like an adult? Adults pay taxes.
No, because I don't think 14 year olds should be dressed in a sexually provocative manner. I don't think it's appropriate for that age. I mean...who are they trying to attract and why?
What's the big hurry to be or look like an adult? Adults pay taxes.
I agree
I agree that removals are rare. But the threat is real. If the teacher is doing their job, they will report the "reported abuse" to C/A. Which will make a visit to your home. I was trying to say that just the threat of the visit would scare some parents from dealing with their child.
I agree with you, my suggestion was for parents who do care and are willing to put in the effort. If the parent does not care, why should the child. Childern learn by example. Childern are not born disrespectful. You get out of a child what you put into it.
OK... my misunderstanding of the original quoteThe Shake said:
I agree that removals are rare. But the threat is real. If the teacher is doing their job, they will report the "reported abuse" to C/A. Which will make a visit to your home. I was trying to say that just the threat of the visit would scare some parents from dealing with their child.
I agree with you, my suggestion was for parents who do care and are willing to put in the effort. If the parent does not care, why should the child. Childern learn by example. Childern are not born disrespectful. You get out of a child what you put into it.
Yesterday at a mall
Yesterday, while killing time, I saw a young teen, wearing a long almost see through white T-shirt, and it barely covered her butt. She was wearing a bright orange thong (bathing suit?) underneath, but nothing on the top. I saw her parading up and down a couple of flights of stairs.buffarg said:
I think that children unfortunately do wear some mature clothing when all there trying to do is mimick the adults fashion without realizing that men are looking at these precious kids as adult woman .......and to be quite frank the fact that you are broadcasting this about teenagers turns my stomach cause these kids are damaged for life with abuse from men without bringing it any ATTENTION i hope its deleted !if short skirts are now a fashion statement thats kewl (about time ) i personally wish us woman had that problem with you men dressing to sexy lol
