White Fragility

[basketcase]

Blacks benefit from affirmative action and artificially inflated SAT scores.

There is even a separate admissions process at some Canadian universities specifically for blacks. Presumably so they don't have to compete against whites, Chinese and E.I.'s for university entrance.

BTW: I think blacks do much better in western democracies than they do in Asian, Muslim and black majority countries.

Pretty sure you were called in this in another thread and still haven't given any evidence for it.

 

[basketcase]

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Funny how statista.com doesn't have a chart of violent crime convictions by race. I imagine it would correlate pretty well with the breakdown of people shot to death by police.

There are plenty of studies that show on average, black people are more likely than whites to be arrested for the same crimes and that show that black people on average get longer jail sentences for the same convictions.

Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System – The Sentencing Project

Report to the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Contemporary Forms of Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia, and Related Intolerance

www.sentencingproject.org

https://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/savvy/images/press/docs/pdf/ASARaceCrime.pdf

 

[yomero5]

I'm quite happy to discuss this topic in depth if you want.

General human nature is to desire comfort and people who have benefited from being in the majority are often afraid that disadvantaged people getting rights will somehow hurt them. It's a pretty simple concept. CNN recently had an article about how often conflict arises within even democratic communities when things like bussing or changing demographics of the community. In this part of the world, whites are the majority and in many circumstances have power and opportunity that others don't. It might be more accurate to use "fragility of the power holders" but being a country where that means white people, the term "white fragility' is accurate and is shown over and over again when people like you and many other on this board get triggered by other races.

Then there are the hard-core racists; the ones who believe other races are inferior and don't deserve rights (and there are a number of those on this board too).

I patiently await your thoughtful response.

CNN is garbage news, LOL! No-one but a fool would take that source seriously.

 

[Darts]

CNN is garbage news, LOL! No-one but a fool would take that source seriously.

I suggest the sheep flocking to support BLM learn the lesson of WE. Fully investigate who are the BLM founders and operators. They could be corrupt like the two WE brothers and using BLM as a vehicle for personal gain.

 

[WyattEarp]

Telling that you don't ask what the other 769 were doing.

Uhhh, the police stopped them for no reason and shot them?

 

[WyattEarp]

I'm quite happy to discuss this topic in depth if you want.

General human nature is to desire comfort and people who have benefited from being in the majority are often afraid that disadvantaged people getting rights will somehow hurt them. It's a pretty simple concept. CNN recently had an article about how often conflict arises within even democratic communities when things like bussing or changing demographics of the community. In this part of the world, whites are the majority and in many circumstances have power and opportunity that others don't. It might be more accurate to use "fragility of the power holders" but being a country where that means white people, the term "white fragility' is accurate and is shown over and over again when people like you and many other on this board get triggered by other races.

Then there are the hard-core racists; the ones who believe other races are inferior and don't deserve rights (and there are a number of those on this board too).

I patiently await your thoughtful response.

I'm sorry I'm not sure I understand the point. Certainly, almost all Americans desire equal opportunity for all Americans. Things do get contentious when the Black community and their supporters desire more favoritism to redress historic racism. This Black favoritism is all around us in our every day lives. Hiring, admissions, govt. programs targeting black communities and even large businesses having minority business vendor programs.

I'm not making an argument against these programs. I am pointing out that they exist and supporters of the programs want them to expand.

 

[Don Draper]

If that is true then show "whitey" that they are not superior.

You know that a white person wrote this, correct?:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Where does it say 'White Man' in that sentence?

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Things I've been hearing in this world since I opened my first bank account and got my first job:

• The banks could say: “It’s too bad that you have a down payment now and still can’t buy property, after all these years, but it’s not our fault.The neighborhoods where you live are bad credit risks. We’re not racist. It’s a business decision.”
• The government could say: “It’s too bad so few Black vets can take advantage of the GI Bill, but colleges are private institutions. If they won’t accept you, it’s not our fault. We’re not racist. It’s a matter of limited government.”
• Then white people could say: “It’s too bad Black people are so poor, but why don’t they do what I did: get an education, get a good job, buy a house and start accumulating some wealth of their own? What’s wrong with them?”

If there is one thing that white people are good at, its fearing that they'll lose their fake sense of privilege and comfort. It only exists inside their own heads, not in the real world.

Dr. King was absolutely correct when he said the "content of your character" is the aim to excellence, not "the color of your skin".

There sure is a LOT of lack of "content of character" on this board.

 

[WyattEarp]

It was Democratic President Johnson's "War on Poverty" that destroyed the 2 parents in the house black family. There are more poor black families now than before the "War on Poverty".https://twitter.com/x_sophieex

This is not an argument that I think holds up. The U.S. began deindustrializing in the 1960s. This has put tremendous strain on the lower quartile of society. African-Americans had been pushed down for so long. By the time industrial unions became more inclusive, their membership rolls were shrinking. The most senior guys (white) kept their jobs. There were many job losses and far less hiring over the subsequent decades.

 

[Darts]

This Black favoritism is all around us in our every day lives. Hiring, admissions, govt. programs targeting black communities and even large businesses having minority business vendor programs.

It's easier to gain admission to an American (and maybe a Canadian university as well) university if you are black.

Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans? (Published 2019)

A high-profile lawsuit against Harvard is forcing students and their families to choose sides.

www.nytimes.com

 

[jerimander]

It's easier to gain admission to an American (and maybe a Canadian university as well) university if you are black.

Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans? (Published 2019)

A high-profile lawsuit against Harvard is forcing students and their families to choose sides.

www.nytimes.com

That's assuming you graduate from high school, of course.

 

[basketcase]

CNN is garbage news, LOL! No-one but a fool would take that source seriously.

Why am I not surprised that you prefer nonsensical statements over discussion?

 

[basketcase]

...Things do get contentious when the Black community and their supporters desire more favoritism...

By favouritism you mean not getting killed by cops or given far longer sentences for similar crimes? That is the basis of the current BLM protests.

As for fragility, I'm talking about the knee-jerk reaction that many here have when minorities are being discussed.

 

[basketcase]

It's easier to gain admission to an American (and maybe a Canadian university as well) university if you are black.
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You keep claiming Canadian universities have an alternate admission process for blacks but seem unwilling to back up that claim.

 

[yomero5]

Why am I not surprised that you prefer nonsensical statements over discussion?

Another meaningless one-liner from a nutcase. I'm sure you could use your Google sources to produce less shoddy work. You've had enough practice, over 43,000!!! But don't seem to get better, lol!

 

[Darts]

You keep claiming Canadian universities have an alternate admission process for blacks but seem unwilling to back up that claim.

I already provided a link earlier.

 

[decoy2673]

Spreading fake numbers while labelling everything which is factual in opposition to your opinion such as CNN as Fake News shows how ignorant and uninformed you really are. It's a Alt Right strategy that is commonly used. The number you posted above is non factual. Making numbers up as you go to fit your narrative makes people look foolish. Here you are looking foolish.
But if you do have a link to the verified stats (non anecdotal evidence) please provide it I would love to read it.

I've said this before and will keep repeating it until the ignorant and uninformed people like you understand.
In 2020 as a human being in the world specially in North America (where we claim to be the greatest of democracies) regardless of your race if one still has not understood the racial inequalities, the systematic oppression and the injustices minorities specially those in the African American communities in the USA suffer on a daily basis you are a part of the problem.

In the USA in 2019 the number of police shooting which resulted in death were 3.1 deaths/100,000 USA population.
A total of 1004 police shooting deaths with the African American's accounting for 235 of them which represents over 23% of the total. That number is disproportionate to the African American population VS the total population in the USA.
In the USA African American's represent only slightly over 13% of the population VS over 76% being represented by Caucasians.
So meanwhile they only account for 13% of the population they account for more than 23% of the fatalities related to police shootings. Adjusted for population an African American in the USA is more than 3.8X more likely to get shot to death by the police than a Caucasian person.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Randomly accusing people of being Alt Right is a commonly used strategy by the Radical left. if you disagree with someone you just call someone Alt Right then stick your fingers in your ears like a child. Calling liberals out on their bullshit doesn't mean I am conservative or Republican. Just that liberals and democrats are full of shit.

 

[voldomort]

Agree. Anybody who has even a basic knowledge of other races/cultures/religions know that no group is perfect.

For example, black slavery existed in darkest Africa long before the arrival of the white man.

so you're saying that US slavery by it's founding fathers isn't really a big deal because there has been slavery everywhere all the time? That's like saying I can murder some guy on the street because there has been killing everywhere all the time... I don't see where this argument is going.

 

[voldomort]

I wonder if it was only "Rick" who realized that he was a racist, did Don realise how much of a racist he is too or was it more like a lecture than a conversion?

You must be careful though, because 80% of who we are is subconscious. We inherit much of this subconscious through experience, and through things we saw on tv or movies as a kid etc. etc. Our culture can make us racist without us even realizing it - and can influence our decisions and behaviors in subtle ways that we don't normally notice.

 

[voldomort]

The Mongols actually conquered much of the lands that Muslims conquered and Alexander the Great earlier conquered. The Mongols and Alex left but the Muslims are still there on lands they conquered with the sword and forced the indigenous people to convert to Islam or be killed.

You gentlemen sound like you might like this podcast that is a favourite of mine. It's call Dan Carlin's Hardcore History: the link is here.

 

[voldomort]

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Shallow Tripe much like the rest of your "musings"

Wow, can we here some of your interesting thoughts on the matter? So easy to casually write of a well written post...oh, the woe of lesser minds