When to Leave/Ask for Donation?

[Jenesis]

Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.

 

[Bobzilla]

Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.

They likely lose more than that; when they lose trust in guys to do the right thing, it may affect the way they see and/or interact with the guys who come after. Making someone lose trust in others is a pretty shitty thing to do.

 

[forgo10]

Forgetting happens with regulars. I had a client leave, I didn’t even look for the cash because I was busy with something else. Had to contact him the next day and say “oops”. LOL.

He sent an EMT right away and I knew he would. But sometimes you have a guy who thinks “well I got away with a free session” and they just don’t go back. Not only has the girl lost out on the actually call but she loses a regular too. I know a couple girls that happened too.

You are right in both cases especially about maybe losing a regular who thinks he got a freebee. Even if Kitty's gut feeling is usually right, it can be wrong and if so, it costs the SP and she may lose that customer going forward.

If I am seeing a lady for the first time, I will always discreetly place the donation on the end table or bureau or ? Mistakes can always happen however.

Once with a long term regular of mine, we met up, had a great time, had some great conversation after and after that, I got dressed and went on my way. I always only have the donation in cash with me (force of habit), and completely forgot to give it to her. I didn't realize until I was home. She never called or texted or anything. At our next meeting, I paid up front for 2 sessions and told her I forgot last time. She started laughing and told me she hadn't realized I forgot to pay last time. Needless to say, we had a very enjoyable time. LOL

 

[drstrangelove]

Or for a totally different approach . . After having been ripped off by a new to me SP, (she only offered a covered hand job after receiving the money), when booking I ask the SP if she'll accept half up front, the other half once promised services have been provided. If the SP is honest, this shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Cowboy_Tony]

Last night with a long time regular. I was putting on my shoes and she asked me if I had left the donation (knowing full well I forgot). I apologized profusely and gave it to her. But that's the thing with regulars, you can forget because it's natural to just be comfortable with each other.

It was a little awkward but she's beautiful and kind and said she nearly forgot too...no big deal.

 

[drstrangelove]

which SP is that?

Don't remember, someone passing through a few years ago.

 

[ispank]

I travel a lot. I find the "rules" for donation differ by location. It is easier to be explicit about how you like it. The issue the client is worried about is bait and switch. Once you have the money, they are afraid you are going to go cold, or the phone will ring and you leave or ... Your approach of having them leave it somewhere in clear view will reduce those anxieties and if you only put it "away" after everyone is clearly not going anywhere will lower those worries..

 

[KDK13]

This is why I stress to guys that it’s so important to do research on a girl first before making such an investment. If you make any investment in life (Car, home, escorts, etc) without doing the research first then you have to bite the bullet and understand that you took a huge risk in the first place. This is far less likely to happen to you with a girl that has a stellar reputation.

Also, there are actually 2 problems with paying this way:

1. There’s no guarantee on her end that you yourself are honest and will actually pay the second half. It sounds like a scam.

2. Most girls charge for time and not services.

Yes. It's time we're paying for. (We can't help it if young beauties find plain looking older blokes with no discernable skills irresistible). Stay away from the dodgy ladies as Melissa says. Then pay upfront. There is a performance aspect to this sort of visit (she's engaging yourself as a gf and you're buying into it) so having to ask is really awkward. (In fact, one agency lady -no longer in the biz - upon entering the door says to me with a neutral face, "put the payment here and you have to take a shower." Then turns her back and goes to the bed. No hello, no nothing else. Just ruined the experience right at the get-go.

Thus, drop the envelope before the shower. It lets her know you're not a scumbag, and she can count it whilst you're showering. It's classier than counting it in front of the client. And this is essential: doing this also removes that question as to whether you're a scumbag from her mind during your visit, so she can relax more. And, the more comfortable she is with you, the better it is for you!
Not rocket science lads.
P.S. w trusted regs maybe no envelope used.

 

[drstrangelove]

2. Most girls charge for time and not services.

Is that what you told the judge? I bet he didn't buy it either.

 

[superman12]

I usually leave the donation on a table right as i enter the room before taking a shower and after exchanging a few pleasantries if she initiates. I let the sp know im doing so. Something casual like "hey hun just leaving the donation here" so there is no miscommunication. As for tipping i always do that at the end of the session depending on how well i clicked with the sp and the level of service i thought i had. Usually just hand her the tip when exchanging our goodbye hugs and kisses.

 

[drstrangelove]

Buy it, don’t buy it. That doesn’t matter to me. It’s a simple well known fact and nothing more. You’ll see it on 90% of escort websites and I guarantee you’ll have a hard time finding a professional and established escort willing to accept payment in 2 separate transactions the way you described instead of everything up front and out of the way.

Think about it… when you see an escorts ad with a list of her rates does it show how much she charges for specific increments of time or does it show a list of all the services she offers with the price of each service beside each of them?

Wish you good luck. Let us all know how your method of payment works out for you. With receipts of course!

So I guess we should just forget all the discussions about how much more clients had to pay to get a particular service? However, you may be quite right that this doesn't apply with "most girls", but I can't say for sure because I've only sampled a relatively small number.

 

[Lv Wmn]

Normally I feel like I am some kind of superhero getting the envelope out of my pocket and placed as requested faster than the speed of light. I really do not want anyone I am meeting thinking I am going to try and skip out.

I have forgotten more than once to do that though. I remember sitting chatting about civi jobs and I remembered the envelope was still in my jacket. I jumped up like I had been zapped and quickly retrieved the envelope. We both had a laugh at my reaction it was not the first time we had met she was less concerned than I was.

I have someone I see pretty regularly and I just transfer the funds. Once she had to cancel fairly close to the time we had set, no problem we can easily reschedule. Couple hours later get a text, "you already paid?" I had, again no big deal just applied to the future meeting.

I assume they counting the donation while I am in the shower, I do not remember anyone counting it right then and there. I am not sure how I would feel about, but I would not make a big deal about it standing in the room.

At a spa, if I have seen someone regularly, I just leave the tip where it can be seen.

So slightly different perspective than some, I am pretty much repeating rather than trying different ladies each time

 

[Jenesis]

From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.

Do you know how many times a donation has been forgotten about because it is not paid upfront. Ensuring payment doesn't mean she cares more or less about anything.

The SP shouldn’t even have to ask. You should walk in and give it freely right away. What does it say about the client who needs to be ask for the money?

 

[massman]

From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.

Reality check. The SP does not care at all about the service if there is no fee. Now I have seen many girls who provide great service, with both a physical and mental connection, who take a great deal of pride in providing a great experience. But that encounter would never have happened if there were no financial compensation. As I said 3 years ago when this thread started, providing payment up front lets her relax and let her guard down a bit. All women, sex professionals included, get much more into sex when stress and worry is minimized and trust is maximized.

 

[Sonic Temple]

From my experience, if an SP asks for the donation right up front it means she only cares about the money and cares less on the service. If it is an SP who never even mentions about the donation, this means she is more interested in the service and less about the money.

Mate it's all about the money, your responsibility is to provide it right away so she doesnt have to ask. She provides a service - pay up front.

 

[The Options Menu]

Do you know how many times a donation has been forgotten about because it is not paid upfront.

I've forgotten to tip after some of my best sessions because I get after orgasm stupid, and can be pretty thunderstruck if the session was very good. Needless to say I just hand off the donation right after I arrive...

 

[Y_Diner]

Hey Kitty. Thanks for this. In my experience you shouldn’t have to ask for either. Best to hand over the donation right away. Why make things awkward and uncomfortable. if the girl is much more comfortable with you from the get go, “In Theroy” the session will go a lot better for both.
With a reg, or at times w a new girl that is popular and I’ve been waiting to see, I like to be a bit playful to break the ice.. If I’m wearing a jacket or some thing over my shirt with pockets, I’ll usually say, “please look in here”, I’ll have some chocolates, a treat, or a gc (regs). Then I’ll say “something else in here” and it’ll be the donation. If not I just place it down and let her know after hellos. It’s not always worked in breaking the ice, some have not been amused, but most of the times it has I think. YMMV, not everyone is going to like everyone, or are poor at faking it.
When it’s almost time to go if she hasn’t said anything, I’ll ask. Then if it’s tight, or in hear the alarm I’ll ask for the eta and I’m exhausted, I’ll politely ask to, “please give me a minute to lay here w you so I can recharge and then hit the shower.” The start and end can really define how things will go, and next time if you repeat.Please don’t take this as an absolute.

 

[Hannah Bright]

Majority of the time I provide the donation after the session. Either while retiring in bed having a quick chat or before I head to the shower. I do not prefer to be asked up front for the donation as it's a bit of a mood killer for me in anticipation of being with a lovely lady

I mean.... this is why you place it in clear view as soon as you arrive. We don't want to have to ask you.

So my question is, why not just put the donation on her dresser before the session without being asked?

That way she is comfortable knowing you have paid, and you are not confronted with her asking for it.

Or is it just the act of paying first that kills the mood for you, no matter if it is asked for or not?

I have to admit, with a new client I would not be comfortable taking payment afterwards.

Yeah this is poor behaviour imo. Good clients want us to feel comfortable. That means following your instructions and leaving your payment in clear view upon arrival like you asked. If it kills the mood for them they could also ask to pay in full in advance via e-transfer.

It's funny because here the exact thing that turns him off is the thing that turns me on. Like show me your fat stack babe! I get wet for those bills!

 

[Hannah Bright]

Donation should be given to the lady and counted in front of her once you get inside of the door. Once she acknowledges
the amount is correct, you then take the shower. This way, there is no misunderstanding and the sp is paid before any activities
take place.

This is the right protocol for benefit of both parties of the transaction. SPs should always state upfront on their website that
donation is required upon arrival so that you don't have someone skipping donation. Envelop is not necessary. But counting is
a must.

CP

I have a client that always counts it out from his wallet infront of me- Haha I always found it a bit odd as he's the only one of my clients that does it (the counting) , but I imagine it's like you say here- he just wants to make sure we both know it's all there and can both feel at ease- and I can appreciate that.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I always leave the donation on the counter first thing.
Only once did a provider ask me for it but that is because she didn't see me leave it on the counter, so I just pointed it out to her.
I don't mind being asked though.
We don't have to pretend money isn't involved lol.