When is the last time the GOPee actually did anything ?

[dirtydaveiii]

Popular vote is irrelevant that's not how the Electoral College works. You know that.
Trump didn't start an insurrection either, that's blatantly false. People who believe that have pebbles for brains.
However what Clinton did start was the entire Russian collusion hoax against the Trump administration.

Ya telling people to go to the capitol and fight like hell could have meant anything I mean who would have thought? Turnip watched it for hours before even saying anything. The russia collusion was no hoax there were dozens of indictments and some went to jail. Furthermore Steele was hires by the GOPee but don't let facts get in your way. Also the piss dossier wasn't even released before the elections. Do you think it's ok for a foreign government to help get a candidate elected ? Is that OK in your mind ?

 

[Skoob]

It certainly wasn't tactful.



An absolute embarrassment that the prize committee should never fully live down.
It speaks volumes about just how bad George Bush was that they gave a prize to Obama just for not being him, but it was just an amazingly stupid thing to do.



Probably not.
In general Trump is pretty incompetent, so people don't say things like that about him.
Also, there are so many other things people have to criticize him about, someone saying that just is never going to make the press as it isn't the most interesting attack line to take against him.



They don't.
You seem obsessed with the idea that they do, though.



And the record for most bombs dropped in a year on Afghanistan was during Trump's presidency except, of course, for the 2001 invasion itself.
I think he also set the record for most bombs dropped on Iraq and Syria in a year.
And on Yemen in a year. (And his totals on Yemen may be more than everyone else combined.)



I'm glad you are aware you are doing that here.
Pretending Trump was against war and didn't escalate bombing and threats is not helpful.

Semantics again...reckless vs tactful...you said it wasn't tactful...missing the point here that he wasn't reckless.

You agree Obama getting a peace prize was stupid...can you see the hypocrisy? He didn't get it just because Bush may have been worse. He got it because people "believed" he was more "peaceful" which he wasn't. So why did he get it?

The court of public opinion is swayed by the manner of a politician. That's the way it is. We may not like it, but anyone who does not come across as polished is typically damned for a variety of opinionated reasons.

 

[Valcazar]

Semantics again...reckless vs tactful...you said it wasn't tactful...missing the point here that he wasn't reckless.

Yes, it was reckless.
That you think it worked out doesn't mean it wasn't.

If you want to argue it was tactical, I will disagree.

But I'm sure we both agree it wasn't tactful.

You agree Obama getting a peace prize was stupid...can you see the hypocrisy?

Whose hypocrisy?
Not mine.

He didn't get it just because Bush may have been worse. He got it because people "believed" he was more "peaceful" which he wasn't. So why did he get it?

He go it because people thought his election meant the US had swung away from the 9/11 fallout of military aggression.
Like I said, Bush was so bad that they gave Obama a peace prize just for being elected.

That was an insanely dumb idea.

But then people wanted to say he ended racism just because he got elected too.
That was also obviously stupid, but there are people mad to this day that it didn't do the trick.

The court of public opinion is swayed by the manner of a politician. That's the way it is. We may not like it, but anyone who does not come across as polished is typically damned for a variety of opinionated reasons.

Yes, that's obvious.
The manner of a politician is important because persuasion is an important part of a politician's job.