When is the last time the GOPee actually did anything ?
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Here’s some more reality…lots of democrats could lose their seat.
Did you just try and deflect again?
Doesn't work on me my friend. If you're going to cower away from the topic at hand and try and distract to a completely differently topic then that's an admission that you have no argument.
MAGA Hegemony must not be stopped. Enough of this human rights nonsense voting against MAGA dogma. A nationwide abortion ban must be implemented and enforced by penalty of death. Now the SC is protecting the rights of domestic abusers to own guns.
After The Shield, the sky was the limit on Michael Jace's career. Then he guns down his wife, she wanted a divorce, he's now serving 40 years to life in prison.
After The Shield, the sky was the limit on Michael Jace's career. Then he guns down his wife, she wanted a divorce, he's now serving 40 years to life in prison.
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The Supreme courts insane rulings make the gun law hunter Biden was charged with obsolete
The only thing that has been cleared up here is confirmation that you can't win an argument and that you have zero integrity when debating a topic. Thank you.
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All this guy did was abuse his wife then fired shots at his neighbor. No reason for this guy not to be armed says Republicans
Don't let the facts get in your way. But I'm not the first person who has told you that.
Quiz answer: Obama is the only president involved in war throughout his entire term in office (depending on how you define "involved", of course).
Bonus answer: Most of them. Again, this depends on what you consider "starting" a war.
But you have been proven to be a liar son why would anyone consider a thing you say ?
Not that factual.
How did Trump not "excessively bomb" countries?
What are you basing that on?
When Trump expanded the legal areas of operation for drone strikes to include Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, and Libya, is that because those were less excessive? When Trump did more drone strikes in Yemen over two years than Obama did over his entire run (despite the US not being officially involved in Yemen) that was less excessive?
Yes, he probably dropped fewer drones and bombs over his term than Obama (since he had fewer years in office and he benefited from not being there during the height of the active combat of the "War on Terror") but it isn't like Trump was against drones or bombs.
Trump loved bombing shit.
When have I lied?
Prove it rather than throwing around accusations when you really have been owned in this argument.
Are you serious?
A simple google search of Obama's record will give you all the answers. Why do you want me to do your work?
I can sit here and just shoot down whatever you say but rather than doing that I'll wait for any factual info you can provide that proves me wrong.
Prove me wrong on this:
- were the pics of kids in cages from Trump or Obama's era?
-Which president has been involved in the most wars?
-which president has initiated the most drone strikes?
Purely an opinion questions...which president, Obama or Trump based on their respective time in office, would be seen as more of a war monger if you remove your bias between the two? Honestly.
I never said Obama didn't do a lot of bombing and drone strikes.
I said that saying Trump reduced these out of some sort of respect for humanity or belief in not doing excessive bombing is wrong.
Trump expanded the drone war to new places. He outdid Obama in multiple theatres. He removed the restrictions on targeting and increased the civilian casualty count.
Would he have passed Obama's records in all theatres if he had had 8 years? Maybe. Probably not in a few because Afghanistan and Iraq were both active fronts during Obama's presidency and those make up a huge part of the numbers.
But he would have been competitive.
Of course, Biden is the real winner here, having massively reduced strikes across the board.
There are pics of kids in cages from both eras.
I also didn't comment on your kids in cages question.
Of course, the reason "kids were in cages" is a major part of the issue here.
Gonna point out that this once again depends on what you are defining as a war.
But once again, I didn't question that Obama was the only president who had active military conflict the US was involved with throughout two full terms.
Trump had the same all through his term as well, of course, but he didn't have two terms. (He also had fewer wars since Obama had already stopped the Iraq war by then.)
Again, that's Obama.
8 years vs 4 is going to count for a lot - as does inheriting two active wars instead of one.
A war monger?
Trump.
After all, he escalated conflict in all the active combat zones he inherited, campaigned on allowing the US to do more war crimes, increased the areas he felt the US was legally allowed to bomb in, and repeatedly used threats of military engagement as part of his foreign policy approach to a degree many found reckless.
That said, Obama was absolutely a war time president. His foreign policy was very military oriented, and he was engaged in active wars and conflict zones, and also escalated US presence in more than one of them.
Just because Trump was a war monger in a way Obama wasn't. (As you yourself point out, in rhetoric Obama was more restrained) doesn't mean he was a worse war time president.
They were both very bad on that.
Obama inherited 2 wars. He dialed them back immensely. He was hand tied by agreements signed by the Bush administration too. Biden was similar tied based on Trump - trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Trump felt no obligation to honor Obama agreements though, and left china to squash democracy in hong kong and run wild in the pacific. Was destroying NATO as per Putins wishes. Destroyed US credibility around the globe too. I traveled to 20 or so countries during the Trump years. Every single one horrified by trumps combination of ignorance and malevolence.
You said Republicans solution for the southern border was to build a wall. That is a lie and you attempted to deflect when I called you on it. Now you pretend your judge jury and executioner in typical Trump fashion but your not successful like him your just a nobody like a kid who wears air Jordan's compared to Michael Jordan
Trump slapped all America's friends in the face while he sucked dictators dicks. I despise Trump because of how he fucked over canada and i am sure his wife and daughters admiration for Trudeau came into play. He is a petty pathetic excuse for a man. I despise people who blame others for their own failures. Man up bitch boy
