What's with the mental ilness?

[jazzpig]

Dont waste your time Hank.

Hes clearly out of legitimate arguments

Aawww...poor baby!
You're still upset that I wouldn't give you my rabbit recipe aren't you.
Be honest with good ole' Hank. The burden of old grudges still weighing
heavily on you I see.

And just in case Hank Reardon (a.k.a. Satan) is reading?

The power of Christ compels you!

The power of Christ compels you!

The power of Christ compels you!

The power of Christ ...compels you!

The power ...of Christ...compels you!

The ...power...of... Christ ...compels you!

The ....power.....of.....Christ.........compels you.......

 

[a 1 player]

Jazzpig, please explain about the Jesus and Satan comments, honestly I would really like to understand. Is it a joke that I am missing? I am really confused here and I may need to over medicate myself to help me understand better.

 

[a 1 player]

Excellent page!!!

An excellent page from the Surgeon General regarding the percentage of people with mental illness. An interesting point is that in the 1950's it was though that over 80% of people had this illness, but currently it is hovering at around 20%. THAT IS STILL 1 IN 5 PEOPLE!!!! Definately worth the read.

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter2/sec2_1.html

An interesting fact from the above article. Please keep in mind this is from the USA.

"When economists calculate the costs of an illness, they also strive to identify indirect costs. Indirect costs can be defined in different ways, but here they refer to lost productivity at the workplace, school, and home due to premature death or disability. The indirect costs of mental illness were estimated in 1990 at $78.6 billion (Rice & Miller, 1996). More than 80 percent of these costs stemmed from disability rather than death because mortality from mental disorders is relatively low."

 

[Hank Reardon]

Jazzpig, please explain about the Jesus and Satan comments, honestly I would really like to understand. Is it a joke that I am missing? I am really confused here and I may need to over medicate myself to help me understand better.

I agree !

Now a few posts back he spoke of Rabbits !!!!

Christ, 666, sacrificing rabbits !!!!

Yikes,

Is he into Satanic worship and animal sacrifices , yuk !!

 

[Hank Reardon]

you know what is truly sad about comments like this is that it continues to marginalize those who have real diagnosis of serious mental illness like Bi-polar affective disorder or schizophrenia. It's no wonder those affected do not discuss their illness and your post goes to pile on to the stigma of mental illness.

The problem of over medication is systemic throughout medical profession, one only needs to look at what has happened to antibiotics over the years. Diagnostic problems in the medical proffession are as old as mankind with my personal favorite of bleeding a patient to cure fever which was all the rage in the medival days.

I've read a great deal of this thread and find it very ignorant of the facts and very dismissive of those who suffer from mental illness.

First and fore most, mental illness is not a disease of the soul as I heard one Catholic Bishop call it, or disease of the mind - just watch beautiful mind to see that - it is however a disease of the body, which needs treated in the most effective manner and without a stigma associated with it.

To those who post some of the more idiotic remarks (Papasmerf) do a little research before you show how truly ignorant you are.


bbk

I fully agree with you , and my issue here is for anyone with an issue or a loved one with an issue or questions to contact CAMH who are the experts ,

Not to discuss such matters with poorly informed or unban rumour spreader wannabes who quote 50 % !!!

 

[slowandeasy]

you know what is truly sad about comments like this is that it continues to marginalize those who have real diagnosis of serious mental illness like Bi-polar affective disorder or schizophrenia. It's no wonder those affected do not discuss their illness and your post goes to pile on to the stigma of mental illness.

I've read a great deal of this thread and find it very ignorant of the facts and very dismissive of those who suffer from mental illness.

First and fore most, mental illness is not a disease of the soul as I heard one Catholic Bishop call it, or disease of the mind - just watch beautiful mind to see that - it is however a disease of the body, which needs treated in the most effective manner and without a stigma associated with it.

bbk

Well done bbk... Like many things in the field of science, it is about trial and error, information, knowledge and discussion.

 

[slowandeasy]

I fully agree with you , and my issue here is for anyone with an issue or a loved one with an issue or questions to contact CAMH who are the experts

Hank, the main problem is that the stigma of mental illness is so overpowering
that many people do not want to/are afraid to even pick up the phone and find out about it.

Most people are still trying to deny that they might have a problem. Even when they recognize that there is a problem, most people try to pretend that they don't. As a result they carry on their lives doing the same things on a day to day basis stubbornly refusing to admit what is right in front of them.

Sort of like you who thinks that the solution for eveyone is to call CAMH...

What we actually need is more discussion about it, and more people taking about their own experiences with mental illness. And yes... even those with mis-information or those who are ignorant are valuable. Why? because only by understanding how people feel/think/understand this problem, will we be able to address their concerns....

Most people probably still think that calling CAMH or admitting you have a problem means that you need to be committed to the Whitby Psychiatric Hospital... or it brings up images of themselves as an inmate in that wonderful movie
"one flew over the cookoo's nest"...

 

[Hank Reardon]

Very funny !!!!!! But......

Hank, the main problem is that the stigma of mental illness is so overpowering
that many people do not want to/are afraid to even pick up the phone and find out about it.

Most people are still trying to deny that they might have a problem. Even when they recognize that there is a problem, most people try to pretend that they don't. As a result they carry on their lives doing the same things on a day to day basis stubbornly refusing to admit what is right in front of them.

Sort of like you who thinks that the solution for eveyone is to call CAMH...

What we actually need is more discussion about it, and more people taking about their own experiences with mental illness. And yes... even those with mis-information or those who are ignorant are valuable. Why? because only by understanding how people feel/think/understand this problem, will we be able to address their concerns....

Most people probably still think that calling CAMH or admitting you have a problem means that you need to be committed to the Whitby Psychiatric Hospital... or it brings up images of themselves as an inmate in that wonderful movie
"one flew over the cookoo's nest"...

I do not think the solution for everyone is to call CAMH, but I do think that it is a very good starting point !!!!

Much better than opening a thread on a board such as this !!


But I wager you this.

Call Camh on behalf of the thread starter.

Ask his question.

Ask a consultant there to read this thread and I will wager you 100-1 that they would agree with my point of calling them rather than asking some obviously mentally ill posters here who are debating this !!

 

[a 1 player]

What we actually need is more discussion about it, and more people taking about their own experiences with mental illness. And yes... even those with mis-information or those who are ignorant are valuable. Why? because only by understanding how people feel/think/understand this problem, will we be able to address their concerns....

Most people probably still think that calling CAMH or admitting you have a problem means that you need to be committed to the Whitby Psychiatric Hospital... or it brings up images of themselves as an inmate in that wonderful movie
"one flew over the cookoo's nest"...

Valid points.

One of the problems is that mental illness is not painful like a tooth ache is. Like everything else, if one is in pain long enough many people learn to deal with it. I finally saw a doctor after many years when I did not get out of bed for a week, and did nothing but cried. I did not even call in sick to work because it was too much of a hassle having to explain to my boss that I was at home crying but nothing was wrong.

I got my ass dragged to the hospital my my sister. She told me that if I did not go with her she would call 911 and make me go anyway, and that it would be easier if she drove me than if I had to fight the police and lose. I still thank her for that. Is she codependant... no. She saw the problems develop over many years with her big brother, seeing me as a shell of my former self.

I think a lot of people are ashamed that they have mental issues, as was I a while ago. Now if anyone looks down on me because of my issues I see it the same as looking down on anyone who has appendecitis or cancer. Fuck them, I don't need them in my life. But then again, I am a very open person and I do not let how others see me affect my self esteem.

I think a lot of people believe that mental illness is the same as being crazy. Granted Hollywood and the media overexaggerate everything for the sake of ratings. It is sad when some people equate mental illness with being like Hannibal Lector.

 

[ASYLUM]

Lets look at the history of this thread vis a vis our interaction "Asylum" -interesting name btw,

You responded to me with a ridiculous out of your hat guess of 50 %

I said, no and explained a bit why and asked you to back it up and also gave you a way how.
You went back and forth another few times, then played the ''victim card''

Then you call me mentally ill !!!

Also by looking at your name , and someone who post a picture of themselves and then gets angry cause people ask if its you ( a compliment , I would guess) and posts another line to that affect ??

Well, how about I look at you then ?

-Playing the victim
-seeking attention

After reading some of your posts my best guess would be borderline personality disorder ,

Ok,your turn sugar,

Wow, thanks for your expert diagnosis there spaz. or wait, lemme guess...CAMH told you i had borderline personality disorder right? tell me I'm right. way to take all of this entirely way too seriously.
and just fyi, not everyone puts alot of thought into their screen names, although yes i know. THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. OH YEAH i am totally enraged when people ask me if that picture is of me. ever think that i wrote those two lines so that people wouldnt have to pm me and ask if it is me? No wonder you're on a stripper/escort review board dude, if i had your personality i'd have to pay girls to put up with me in real life too

 

[Hank Reardon]

Haha !

Thanks, I do like your strength though !!

But the number ain't 50 %

As for you, it is very obvious that you have at least 5/9 criteria that would make you bpd.

 

[slowandeasy]

Actually, It Is Not Funny

I do not think the solution for everyone is to call CAMH, but I do think that it is a very good starting point !!!!

Much better than opening a thread on a board such as this !!

It is not a competition. How about if you stop and consider other points of view. Its obvious that you have some sort of axe to grind. Your attitude towards mental illness is obvious when you make derogatory statements to people on this forum.

In your fairly tale, every addict will be able to diagnose the problem, be able to pick up the phone, call CAMH, show up for appointments, get treatment, slay the dragon, rescue the princess, and then live happily ever after!!!!

My sarcasm aside, this is a fairly serious topic, stop talking down to people.

In the real world most, most do not seek treatment because they do not even know what the problem is...

Because of the stigma attached to it, most people will not talk about it. If they do talk about it, it will be in a secretive way or indirectly.

Once again, this is not a competition!!!! This illness is not like others...
This is not a competition... calling camh is a good start.. but there is nothing wrong with discussion groups..

 

[slowandeasy]

An interesting article, on CNN.com... The article itself is from the Mayo Clinic

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/MH/00042.html

CAMH website
http://www.camh.net/

An interview with a Mayo Clinic Specialist on Mental Illnesses
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mental-illness/HQ01079


Definition of Mental Illness
What is mental illness?
Mental illness is a term that refers to all the different types of mental disorders, including disorders of thought, mood or behavior. To be classified as a mental illness, the condition must cause distress and result in a reduced ability to function psychologically, socially, occupationally or interpersonally.

This means that someone who has a mental illness may have trouble coping with emotions, stress and anger, for instance, and trouble handling such things as daily activities, family responsibilities, relationships, or work and school responsibilities. You can have trouble, to a greater or lesser degree, with one area or all of them. And you can have more than one type of mental illness at the same time.

 

[Hank Reardon]

It is not a competition. How about if you stop and consider other points of view. Its obvious that you have some sort of axe to grind. Your attitude towards mental illness is obvious when you make derogatory statements to people on this forum.

In your fairly tale, every addict will be able to diagnose the problem, be able to pick up the phone, call CAMH, show up for appointments, get treatment, slay the dragon, rescue the princess, and then live happily ever after!!!!

My sarcasm aside, this is a fairly serious topic, stop talking down to people.

In the real world most, most do not seek treatment because they do not even know what the problem is...

Because of the stigma attached to it, most people will not talk about it. If they do talk about it, it will be in a secretive way or indirectly.

Once again, this is not a competition!!!! This illness is not like others...
This is not a competition... calling camh is a good start.. but there is nothing wrong with discussion groups..

I am one of thefew here that is taking it seriously.

POV is the exact issue issue vis a vis the truth.

Asylum is misrerpresenting reality with her 50 % claim, which I pointed out and then she got her back up.

I am speaking of reality here .

There is nothing wrong with a discussion group if the points are factual, if they ain't then that is my concern.

Now go on and bug someone else

 

[slowandeasy]

Asylum is misrerpresenting reality with her 50 % claim, which I pointed out and then she got her back up.


Now go on and bug someone else

Anal Fixation???

Missing the point???

Is 50% inaccurate... Definitely...
If it is 30%, 25%, 20%, or 3.14159265358979323846% does it really matter??

Getting the actual numbers of people who suffer is a non-sequitur. Even the experts cannot agree. What they do agree on is that it is a very serious illness and it is becoming much more prevalent every day. Any stats provided by CAMH and any other organization will be at best a "guesstimate".

Before you go jumping on other people about reality, perhaps you better call CAMH and get your facts straight.

 

[Hank Reardon]

Anal Fixation???

Missing the point???

Is 50% inaccurate... Definitely...
If it is 30%, 25%, 20%, or 3.14159265358979323846% does it really matter??

Getting the actual numbers of people who suffer is a non-sequitur. Even the experts cannot agree. What they do agree on is that it is a very serious illness and it is becoming much more prevalent every day. Any stats provided by CAMH and any other organization will be at best a "guesstimate".

Before you go jumping on other people about reality, perhaps you better call CAMH and get your facts straight.

Whoa Nelly ,

I am talking about mental illness and you are talking about my ass ????

I'm outta here, please don't post to me again,

Yikes

 

[a 1 player]

To clear up the debate...

The National Institute for Mental Health (NIMH) states...

Statistics

Mental disorders are common in the United States and internationally. An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year. When applied to the 2004 U.S. Census residential population estimate for ages 18 and older, this figure translates to 57.7 million people. Even though mental disorders are widespread in the population, the main burden of illness is concentrated in a much smaller proportion — about 6 percent, or 1 in 17 — who suffer from a serious mental illness. In addition, mental disorders are the leading cause of disability in the U.S. and Canada for ages 15-44. Many people suffer from more than one mental disorder at a given time. Nearly half (45 percent) of those with any mental disorder meet criteria for 2 or more disorders, with severity strongly related to comorbidity.

The Impact of Mental Illness on Society

The burden of mental illness on health and productivity in the United States and throughout the world has long been underestimated. Data developed by the massive Global Burden of Disease study conducted by the World Health Organization, the World Bank, and Harvard University, reveal that mental illness, including suicide, accounts for over 15 percent of the burden of disease in established market economies, such as the United States. This is more than the disease burden caused by all cancers.

Bold text mine.

 

[jazzpig]

Whoa Nelly ,

I am talking about mental illness and you are talking about my ass ????

I'm outta here, please don't post to me again,

Yikes

It's about time you fucking retard.

 

[3Tees]

It`s about time you fucking retard.

See my post here.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=184761&page=3

I hope he`s gone.

He must be a closet homosexual if he protests about it too much about people talking about his ass - after all, that`s what projection is all about, right Hankeypoo?

 

[elmufdvr]

retard is what rwetard does.... life is a box of sh!t.. you know what you get but you try to sell it off as chocolet