What was Zidane thinking (or was he)??
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Thanks, that was the point I was trying to make .... i was searching for a player to compare him to... but could not find one.... Bertuzzi is a good choice, but Materazzi seems to be more chippy or perhaps more of a shit disturber than Bertuzzi...wonkyknee said:
if he was so great...
you wouldn't have to look at previous world cups to show how good he is.
He was o.k in 2006............nothing really special.
Matterazzi in 2006 was AWESOME!!.....HE also helped his team tremendously to get to THE NUMBER 1 SPOT!...THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
Zidane pussied out in the big game. He showed himself to be a loser....fine..he played well in previous tournaments.
franky66 said:It isnt un heard of for defenders to score on set pieces so that isnt something special
Zidane carries winning teams on his back like a champ. Who the hell is Matterazzi??????
Listen, Zidane has played in 2 World Cup final matches and has a total of 3 goals for those efforts. Only other players do accomplish that are:
Geoff Hurst of England in one final in 1966
Pele of Brazil (2 in 1958 and 1 in 1970)
Vava of Brazil (2 in 1958 and 1 in 1962)
you wouldn't have to look at previous world cups to show how good he is.
He was o.k in 2006............nothing really special.
Matterazzi in 2006 was AWESOME!!.....HE also helped his team tremendously to get to THE NUMBER 1 SPOT!...THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
Zidane pussied out in the big game. He showed himself to be a loser....fine..he played well in previous tournaments.
Well Zidane helped France beat Italy in 1998 and in 2000
no one with any shred of soccer sense would even dare compare Materazzi to Zidane
Materazzi is a sack of shit and always will be
no one with any shred of soccer sense would even dare compare Materazzi to Zidane
Materazzi is a sack of shit and always will be
Okay... it's good to be proud and nationalistic, but let's not get ridiculous here. The man scored 2 back post headers, that accounts primarily for good timing and positioning. Every team has at least one defender whose role it is to do exactly that. Jason DeVos and Kevin McKenna of Canada used to do it all of the time. Most of their goals were no different than Matt-boy's... other than that they weren't in a World Cup game.wonkyknee said:
But my point is, that while his second was obviously an important goal, neither were nowhere near being highlight reel goals. One of the sports networks actually put together a top ten list of the best goals and unfortunately... neither of Matty's goals were on it. Now if he had done a Rossi or Larsson "Superman" style of header, I would be more inclined to agree with you, but seriously... And just to show you that I'm not trying to be an Italia basher, both of the goals in the win over Germany were far superior and worthy of being goals of the tournament. Both beautiful set-ups and superior finishing.
As for Todd Bertuzzi... and this goes out to Slowandeasy, as well... I know that he's Italian and it makes for an appropriate comparison, but... IN... YOUR... DREAMS!!
Forget about his past with Moore, or even that he had a subpar year in '05-06... The man is a superior athlete in his chosen sport. Comparatively speaking, Matt-boy can't touch Bertuzzi's talent, tenacity or focus.
A far more reasonable comparison, if you have to make one, would be Marty Mcsorley. And that's Mcsorley in his "consideration for Team Canada" years, not his axe wielding days. Tough... dirty... tenacious... with a sprinkling of talent... able to fill the appropriate role and... do whatever it takes to win.
And no matter how much you might dislike the man, Zidane is much more than JUST a good player. No matter how good of a team I think the French had, it doesn't go anywhere without Zidane. Just as Cannavaro is the field General of Italy, so too is Zidane for France. And regardless of his stupidity in extras of the last game, it does not wash away the body of work that he created throughout the rest of the tournament. Cannavarro was in a word... megaawesometotheultimatemax. But Zidane was just a little bit better and judged, ultimately, to have been more impotant to his team's success.
Well... at least until that fateful moment when all he wanted to do was take a little bite of Matty's nipples. It was only fair as Matty had just given him a purple nurple. But he didn't quite judge Matty's speed, as he was running towards him and just ended up getting it all wrong...
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Zidane in 1998 verus Italy? How'd he fairwonkyknee said:
Zidane pussied out? I think Materazzi showed himself to be a classless and a horrible liar (I don't know what "terrorist" means"), in this game.
It's okay though, Zidane as most know will/would pull circles around Materazzi on the field.
Incredibly enough, i didn't seen MaterASSi in any adidas commercials.
I thought it was only visible well known talent that scored big contracts?
Go figure...MaterASSi, better get a new agent, he's not doing his job.
Unless he's ignorant enough to his own career, and doesn't care.
Bottom line...in 2006...
All you Zidane bitches can pout all you want, but in 2006 he's a loser, and blew if for his country and will be remembered mostly as an idiot.
Matterazzi is a champion...Zidane, basically shit on himself and his teammates...Zidane is now a loser and that's how he will be remembered.Mongrel4u said:
All you Zidane bitches can pout all you want, but in 2006 he's a loser, and blew if for his country and will be remembered mostly as an idiot.
no Zidane wont be remembered as an idiot, anyone who follows soccer beyond the latest competition knows how great he was. He's accomplished more than Materazzi or any current Italian player could dream of
maybe you can offer a different rebuttal than your predictable Italy are Champions and Materazzi is a hero angle
interesting side note, which I forgot, Italy and France are in the same qualifying group for Euro 2008, I read somewhere that Gallas wants to smash Materazzi in the face, guess it will have to happen at the club level
maybe you can offer a different rebuttal than your predictable Italy are Champions and Materazzi is a hero angle
interesting side note, which I forgot, Italy and France are in the same qualifying group for Euro 2008, I read somewhere that Gallas wants to smash Materazzi in the face, guess it will have to happen at the club level
Zidane to speak publicly tonight:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5169342.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/5169342.stm
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there's nothing to argue.
Zidane, although sent off with a red card, is still a God. Materatti, caught on tape insulting Zidane, is a class-less-rasicst-fuck. I just wish Zidane's headbutt cracked some of that fucker's ribs.
Zidane, although sent off with a red card, is still a God. Materatti, caught on tape insulting Zidane, is a class-less-rasicst-fuck. I just wish Zidane's headbutt cracked some of that fucker's ribs.
FIFA is investigating this incident... it will be interesting to see what they come up with...
Zidane will tell his side of the story, but I hope that it does not become too much of a witch hunt....
Zidane will tell his side of the story, but I hope that it does not become too much of a witch hunt....
If Zidane had such a great WC 2006
why does he need a bunch of terbites to defend him??? LOL
why does he need a few numbnuts standing at his side while he cries in the dressing room.
a couple of terbites doesn't change the fact that Zidanes own teammates are pissed at him...the country is at best divided on his actions...
AND in 10 years time the list of WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS will only list
ITALY WINNERS IN 2006.!!!
there will be no discaimer that a couple of Terbites felt Zidane played well and they didn't actually think that getting himeself thrown out was a stupid thing.
As many of you same Terbites have pointed out, Zidane is a loose cannon. He averages a red card for "unsportsmanlike conduct" every year!! That means he does something stupid every year. He did it again in 2006 and it cost the team/country a world cup.
Bottom Line....he is an idiot.
You think Pele wasn't insulted during soccer matches??? think again. But he brought his country 3 World Cup Championships and the greatest player of all time...probably in any sport.
Zidane is that bald guy who headbutted the Italian defender in the chest(probably doing little to zero damage) got himself thrown out and cost his country a World Cup.
HE IS AN IDIOT. most of his own countrymen agree.
why does he need a bunch of terbites to defend him??? LOL
why does he need a few numbnuts standing at his side while he cries in the dressing room.
a couple of terbites doesn't change the fact that Zidanes own teammates are pissed at him...the country is at best divided on his actions...
AND in 10 years time the list of WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS will only list
ITALY WINNERS IN 2006.!!!
there will be no discaimer that a couple of Terbites felt Zidane played well and they didn't actually think that getting himeself thrown out was a stupid thing.
As many of you same Terbites have pointed out, Zidane is a loose cannon. He averages a red card for "unsportsmanlike conduct" every year!! That means he does something stupid every year. He did it again in 2006 and it cost the team/country a world cup.
Bottom Line....he is an idiot.
You think Pele wasn't insulted during soccer matches??? think again. But he brought his country 3 World Cup Championships and the greatest player of all time...probably in any sport.
Zidane is that bald guy who headbutted the Italian defender in the chest(probably doing little to zero damage) got himself thrown out and cost his country a World Cup.
HE IS AN IDIOT. most of his own countrymen agree.
and this is all you got left????
So the great hero is still great if you compare him only to Materazzi??? ROFLOL.
Try comparing him to Pele....NO COMPARISON.
Zidane is as reported in his own country's papers L'IDIOT!!!!
Find one archived paper in Brazil where they ever call Pele and idiot???
Nice try boys, but he's not even on the same page as Pele.
But O.K ,....I"ll give you the Materazzi comparison....Only Materazzi was the winner in 2006!!!... cause he played for the team.
Good for Zidane. He f'ck over his teammates and grabbed the personal Golden ball award...nice.
the_big_E said:
So the great hero is still great if you compare him only to Materazzi??? ROFLOL.
Try comparing him to Pele....NO COMPARISON.
Zidane is as reported in his own country's papers L'IDIOT!!!!
Find one archived paper in Brazil where they ever call Pele and idiot???
Nice try boys, but he's not even on the same page as Pele.
But O.K ,....I"ll give you the Materazzi comparison....Only Materazzi was the winner in 2006!!!... cause he played for the team.
Good for Zidane. He f'ck over his teammates and grabbed the personal Golden ball award...nice.
