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Canada man, youre deluding yourself with those biased and narrow stats

in the US blacks are 37 times more likely to commit a violent crime than whites, blacks are 17 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than the other way around
blacks are more violent than Mexicans who are more violent than whites who are more violent than Asians, regardless how you feel about the issue that facts remain the same, black people are the most violent race by a very large margin and income, location, education etc don't make much of a difference

all the most dangerous cities in the US or any other civilized country has one thing is common, high percentage of blacks in the population, sorry you hate reality but you not wanting to believe facts doesn't change them in the least

Take murder, for example.
The U.S. rate per 100,000 is 9.3, while Canada's is 2.5. But splitting produces a white U.S. rate of 5.1, and a black rate of 43.3!

The contrasts are even more stark in the case of interracial rape. Studies from the late 1950s showed that the vast majority of rapes were same-race offenses. Research in Philadelphia carried out in 1958 and 1960 indicated that of all rapes, only 3.2 percent were black-on-white assaults and 3.6 percent were white-on-black. Since that time, the proportion of black-on-white rapes has soared. In a 1974 study in Denver, 40 percent of all rapes were of whites by blacks, and not one case of white-on-black rape was found. In general, through the 1970s, black-on-white rape was at least ten times more common that white-on-black rape. [319]

Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]

Interracial crime figures are even worse than they sound. Since there are more than six times as many whites as blacks in America, it means that any given black person is vastly more likely to commit a crime against a white than vice versa.
 

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While I find canada-man's constant race baiting a bore, I think the blowhards like the poster above who take statistics and try to make that the end-all, be-all to make their race-based point even worse.

Simply put, the main reason for violent crime is socio-economic, combined with upbringing. It has nothing to do with the skin colour one is born with. Anyone who argues otherwise is unfortunately out to lunch.
 

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While I find canada-man's constant race baiting a bore, I think the blowhards like the poster above who take statistics and try to make that the end-all, be-all to make their race-based point even worse.

Simply put, the main reason for violent crime is socio-economic, combined with upbringing. It has nothing to do with the skin colour one is born with. Anyone who argues otherwise is unfortunately out to lunch.

reacting to constant racist propaganda on terb is not racebaiting
 
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So if a town of 100 has 90 whites and 10 blacks. 5 of the blacks are criminals and 6 of the whites, that makes whites more violent right?

He probably lumped whites and hispanics together too.
 

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So if a town of 100 has 90 whites and 10 blacks. 5 of the blacks are criminals and 6 of the whites, that makes whites more violent right?

He probably lumped whites and hispanics together too.
What is the socio-economic conditions breakdown of this town? If all things there are equal, then statistically, the numbers would be proportional as well.
 

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And then they wonder why there's racism issues. :confused:
Just cuz some race has been oppressed or is a minority, doesn't mean they get a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want! When will they understand this?
Right! Why can't they accept continued oppression, slavery and unjust treatment .... get over themselves!
 

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This thread is so offensive. Boy, the cliche that hate begats hate is so true here. Where is the love? Bigots on both sides. Does it make you happier? I didn't think so. Yup! Evolution distributed the haters pretty evenly.
 

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What is the socio-economic conditions breakdown of this town? If all things there are equal, then statistically, the numbers would be proportional as well.
Well first off I'd be the King of Iaminchargeastan.
My 12 wives would be of all ethnic backgrounds provided they have DD's and are under 120 lbs.
Everyone else can work for me if they want otherwise they can, statistically, leave my lands.
 

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By the way, a lot of the racial statistics are misinterpreted. Much crime is done by heterosexual males between the ages of 16 and 28 with below average and above disabled I.Q's. Poverty is correlated but it's difficult to determine causality. Furthermore, if you analyze the stats using proper probability mathematics this "anti-white" crime war looses a lot of it's validity. There may be some anti-white racism involved but it's much smaller than the other factors. A lot of criminal behaviour seems to be a result of a minority of poor, dumb, young heterosexual males. Maybe it's a testosterone thing. In any event, it's wrong to judge individuals of a whole group based on a minority.
 

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By the way, a lot of the racial statistics are misinterpreted. Much crime is done by heterosexual males between the ages of 16 and 28 with below average and above disabled I.Q's. Poverty is correlated but it's difficult to determine causality. Furthermore, if you analyze the stats using proper probability mathematics this "anti-white" crime war looses a lot of it's validity. There may be some anti-white racism involved but it's much smaller than the other factors. A lot of criminal behaviour seems to be a result of a minority of poor, dumb, young heterosexual males. Maybe it's a testosterone thing. In any event, it's wrong to judge individuals of a whole group based on a minority.
The solution is of course more fudge packing?

I guess the decline of gay industries like steel has not helped much.


Ah gayer more peaceful times.
 

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Well, you could always go back to Africa if you feel you have it so bad.

There would be, oh, about a billion Africans who would take your place in a heart beat.
Funny you should say this. Rather than discuss and/or accept that the history of 'The Americas' is covered in greed and racism, you suggest that he just leave. You speak of Canada as if you have a right to it. Ask an Aboriginal his/her perspective.

you do realise you sound racist when tell me to go back to africa? why don't you go back to Europe first?
They 'bought' Canada 'fair and square'.

Canada-man...yup, the work of whites and asians had nothing to do with it. Inventions too numerous to name had nothing to do with it. The skycrapers, highways, subways were all built by slaves. You're either a black racist or a white imbecile.
Sure the work of 'Whites' and Asians had something to do with it, but if you read into the history the scientific/industrial revolutions (which began in Europe not the United States) were only possible as a result of the economic prosperity of the sugar trade. Did you know that many historians studying the transition from agragarian to industrial societies, credit the slave-powered Caribbean sugar plantations as the first example of mass production?

Canada-man You're a racist and delusional. Keep talking and proving it. You realize the overwhelming number of black people reading your nonsense would think you're a fruitcake.

Kirk....not that you don't likely agree with me must most black people, I know, are patriotic Canadians. Canada-man is just an angry, hateful, sad little man.
Sure they would. These are the same people who think it's great that America has its first 'black' president (wasn't his mother white?), belief in the paradigm of MLK, and that great strides have been made since the abolishment of slavery and the Civil Rights Movement. Sure we could point to many examples, but these do not exemplify the minority experience as a whole. Think about this example; why do white Americans/Canadians not have to have a prefix in front of their ethnic nationalities (therefor indicating them as the norm) while 'others' must wear tags such as Asian/African/Hispanic/etc?

BTW, Malcolm X also said things that many black people did not like. He may have been harsh, but when you think about it, was he lying? I don't agree with his name-calling, but he did detail the 'black experience in America' quite accurately.

I don't think Canada-man is a fruitcake. In the context of history's contribution to the present, I tend to agree with him.

Ohh yeah I forgot the tremendous black achievements of 40000 years before the white man came of the stick and the mud hut.

Everything black people have in this world today is because of white people but they still complain and want more.

BTW, black violent crime and rape statistics against whites are over 10 X that of white against blacks today but they still ignore that fact and complain about 400 years ago.
Huh? I guess you can say that, but that's because whites took everything black people once had. Lucky to be you who has so much that you can look down from your pedestal and tell others that they should be lucky to have what they have. Unless you're saying that all the injustices and differences of the past have been eradicated and eqaulled, then I would like to know 'what' it is that these people are to be lucky for (tread carefully with this one)?
 
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To answer the OP's question. They are Nation of Islam members and I'm shocked that they would try to spread their word while being openly racist.

Way to go NOI. Way to reaffirm the stereotypes. MAybe that's why Malcolm left. :rolleyes:
 

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Toke you wrote a lot of stuff....all of which is crap. Sorry...not buying into your bullshit socialist revisionist history crap....oh yeah...you're a bigot too!!!! Must be tough seeing all these white people around.
 

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Right! Why can't they accept continued oppression, slavery and unjust treatment .... get over themselves!


I didn't meant it that way and you know it! I'm not saying they should continue to accept oppression and unjust treatment. I'm only saying that a violent reaction isn't the proper way to respond. Two wrongs don't make a right.
 

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the OP is a troll who for no other reason other than he can now sit back and enjoy the flame war and chuckle to himself, cause he unleashed all the usual suspects who will inanely discuss race on a rather low level....of course thats only my opinion
 
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