What has Canada done for the world...?

Mcluhan

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You may be absolutely right about Superman. I don't know anything about the history. However, I did a quick google and this claims Joe Shuster was born in Toronto and went to Cleveland when he was 10. However, if you say this source is wrong, I'll take your word for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shuster
Svend use wiki...I was wrong...we are co-owners of the Kid from Kryptonite..

I think the Canadian mint should Honour that fact with a green loonie and Superman on the face!
 

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The President was itching maybe, but not the Country or its people as a whole.
Washington not only knew of the Pearl Harbor strike in advance, but, desiring an incident that would yield indisputable grounds for entering the war, kept the information from the public.

Franklin D. Roosevelt knew the only way in which United States countrymen would take arms and fight in Europe’s War was to be an overt action against the United States by a member of the Axis Power.

Roosevelt also believed Hitler would not declare war on the United States unless he knew they were beatable. There are numerous accounts of actions by Roosevelt and his top armed forces advisors, which reveal they were not only aware of an attack by Japan, but also they were planning on it, and instigating that attack.
 

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Dev0 did you read this anywhere online specifically about Franky D., knowing and hoping for the attack?
 

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originally posted by Someone
"You may be absolutely right about Superman. I don't know anything about the history. However, I did a quick google and this claims Joe Shuster was born in Toronto and went to Cleveland when he was 10. However, if you say this source is wrong, I'll take your word for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shuster

10 is pretty young anyway to take credit for him (although New Zealand claims Russell Crow and I think he was pretty young when he left of Australia)"





Ok ok, help me out with this one, Alexander Graham Bell was born in Scotland, but Canadians claim him and the invention of the telephone. But why is Superman so easily claimed to be as a Canadian creation even though the creator Joe Shuster born in Toronto moved to the States at a young age. Don't forget Superman was also co created with Jerome (Jerry) Siegel, it was a mish mash of both of their ideas, not just from one person.
 

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johnnywest said:
Superman so easily claimed to be as a Canadian creation even though the creator Joe Shuster born in Toronto moved to the States at a young age. Don't forget Superman was also co created with Jerome (Jerry) Siegel, it was a mish mash of both of their ideas, not just from one person.
Less ambiguity then if Superman is listed as a Jewish creation.
 

Mcluhan

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johnnywest said:
Ok ok, help me out with this one, Alexander Graham Bell was born in Scotland, but Canadians claim him and the invention of the telephone. But why is Superman so easily claimed to be as a Canadian creation even though the creator Joe Shuster born in Toronto moved to the States at a young age. Don't forget Superman was also co created with Jerome (Jerry) Siegel, it was a mish mash of both of their ideas, not just from one person.
Okay, let's nit pick, my time's not that valuable tonight anyway. Yes, Superman was created in Cleaveland. One of the creators was Canadian.

As for Alexander Graham Bell, he was Canadian (landed) and the work was done here. Of course we could always call the Terminator an Austrian Movie, if we are to apply your sense of logic. We here on this side of the 49th, in Eastern Canada grew up since birth with a bill that we (and our parents and grandparents before us) pay every month to the "Bell Telephone Company".

(from Wiki)

In 1870, at the age of 23, he emigrated with his family to Canada where they settled at Brantford. Before he left Scotland, Bell had turned his attention to telephony, and in Canada he continued an interest in communication machines. He designed a piano which could transmit its music to a distance by means of electricity. In 1873, he accompanied his father to Montreal, Canada, where he was employed in teaching the system of visible speech. The elder Bell was invited to introduce the system into a large day-school for mutes at Boston, but he declined the post in favor of his son, who became Professor of Vocal Physiology and Elocution at Boston University's School of Oratory. Bell speaking into prototype model of the telephone
Enlarge Bell speaking into prototype model of the telephone

At Boston University he continued his research in the same field, and endeavored to produce a telephone which would not only send musical notes, but articulate speech. With financing from his American father-in-law, on March 7, 1876, the U.S. Patent Office granted him Patent Number 174,465 covering "the method of, and apparatus for, transmitting vocal or other sounds telegraphically … by causing electrical undulations, similar in form to the vibrations of the air accompanying the said vocal or other sound", the telephone.

Bell's own home used a primitive form of air conditioning, in which fans blew currents of air across great blocks of ice. He also anticipated modern concerns with fuel shortages and industrial pollution. Methane gas, he reasoned, could be produced from the waste of farms and factories. At his Canadian estate in Beinn Bhreagh, Nova Scotia, he experimented with composting toilets and devices to capture water from the atmosphere. In a magazine interview published shortly before his death, he reflected on the possibility of using solar panels to heat houses.

In 1882, he became a naturalized citizen of the United States.
 

woolf

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If anyone ever gets to Nova Scotia, and more specifically to the town of Baddeck on Cape Breton Island, stop into the Bell museum ... it's totally amazing how many things Bell invented and/or improved on.
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Dev0 did you read this anywhere online specifically about Franky D., knowing and hoping for the attack?
The theory that Roosevelt knew before hand of the Pearl Harbor attack is very questionable ... I believe the facts are (and this is from memory so take it for what its worth) that there was "pre-knowledge" of the attack, which was put in a memo and passed up the chain of command, which Roosevelt and his people claim they never received or heard of until well after the attack.

I don't think it can be determined whether the memo was ignored on purpose or not (hell, even the existence of the memo itself is in question,) so it's hardly worth arguing over IMO.

But I believe there is a lot more credible evidence to suggest that Roosevelt wanted to join the war effort against Hitler though.
 

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Just back from being banned, seems I say nasty things sometimes, but U of T gave the world Pablum. Millions of babies say thanks.

Can't believe this was my first post since returning from pergatory.
 

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The Jap attack at Pearl was in many respects a copy of the one Cunningham had used to destroy the Italian navy at Taranto earlier in the war. Not many took notice but the japanese studied it carefully, they liked the idea of the stealthy torpedo bomber tactics.
 

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What has Canada given the world?

That's easy. Just for starters:
1. Oatmeal
2. Golf
3. Theda Bara
4. the shotgun
5. the world's only functioning death ray
6. eyeglasses
7. disco
8. Florida
9. underwear that itches, making Osma bin Laden extremely uncomfortable all the time
10. hi-fi stereo speakers
11. jokes
12. rainproof cars
13. numbers
14. the internet
15 calcium
16. Beethoven

And that was just in one busy week, back in the 1940s!

MW
 

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Curling?

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Alexander Graham Bell was not a Canadian. he happened to live in Brantford for a short time but that's about it for his Canadian connection.
 

Svend

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Sadly, our Celine Dion contribution negates a lot of goodwill by Canadians over the last century.
 

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Mcluhan said:
And we all missed that... comical
I thought so.

As for fighting, I think you do your best with skates on, at least in this century.

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woolf

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Kitwat said:
Alexander Graham Bell was not a Canadian. he happened to live in Brantford for a short time but that's about it for his Canadian connection.
Well, it's true that he wasn't a Canadian, but he spent much of his later years summering in Cape Breton, inventing things and working with the deaf including Hellen Keller.

"I have travelled the globe. I have seen the Canadian and American Rockies, the Andes and the Alps and the highlands of Scotland, but for simple beauty, Cape Breton outrivals them all."

A.G. Bell
 

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Received the following in an email. Has anyone else seen it on the quoted website?

One American's View.

This message was on the U.S. Military.Com website. You will find it quite positive. It appears that Mr. Meadows knows a lot more about what our military is doing than most Canadians.

AVAC

David Meadows ~ April 27, 2006


On April 22, 2006 four Canadian soldiers were killed in Afghanistan by a roadside bomb. Respects and heartfelt sadness go to the families of those
heroes who stand alongside the U.S. In the Long War half a world away. While we focus on the war in Iraq, the fighting continues in Afghanistan where side-by-side the U.S. And one of its most loyal allies, Canada, engage the re-emergence of the Taliban.

Canada is like a close uncle who constantly argues, badgers, and complainsabout what you are doing, but when help is truly needed, you can't keep him away: he's right there alongside you. We have a unique relationship with Canada. We have different political positions on many issues, but our unique friendship has weathered world wars, global crises, and the ever-so-often neighborhood disagreement.

Canada has been with us since the beginning of the Global War on Terrorism. In February 2006, without fanfare Canada, leading a multinational force combating growing Taliban insurgency, increased troop strength in Afghanistan to 2,300. With the American military stretched thin against
rising instability in both Iraq and Afghanistan, an ally that increases its
troop strength is inspiring and deserves our respect.
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Katrina was another example of our close family-like relationship. Katrina
struck the Gulf Coast on August 29, 2005. Two days later, the Vancouver
Urban Search and Rescue Team rushed from British Columbia, Canada to Saint
Bernard Parish, Louisiana. In this Parish of 68,000 Americans, the first
responders were Canadians. Overall, within the devastated Gulf Coast area,
it appears Canada was the first responder outside of local efforts. They
worked 18-hour days, going door-to-door alongside Louisiana State Troopers,
rescuing 119-Americans.

While FEMA ramped up to surge into the catastrophe; while the administration and Louisiana fought for the politically correct way to respond; Canadian aid was already at work. The Canadian Forces Joint Task Group 306 consisting of the warships HMCS Athabaskan, HMCS Toronto, NSMC Ville de Quebec, and CCGC William Alexander sailed to the Gulf Coast to deliver humanitarian supplies. They stayed, working alongside U.S. Navy and Mexican warships, to provide aid to Katrina victims.

Katrina was not an anomaly of our close relationship. When Hurricane Ivan
devastated Pensacola, Florida in October 2004 Canadian humanitarian help was there also. Canadian power trucks roamed the streets and countryside helping restore electricity where Americans had a unique experience of running into workmen who only spoke French.

Canada took a lot of undeserved flak for failing to leap into Operation Iraqi Freedom when our administration sent us galloping across the desert. But Canada remains one of our staunchest allies in the war. When United States military forces were fighting up the highways in Operation Iraqi Freedom, Canada quietly increased troop numbers in Afghanistan and continued Naval operations with U.S. Warships in the Persian Gulf.

I was at the Pentagon on 9/11, stationed on the Joint Staff. During the early hours after the attack, the United States closed its air space and ordered every aircraft within our borders to land immediately at the nearest airfield. Canada immediately stood up an Operations Support Post. With civil aviation grounded, aircraft destined for the United States were forced elsewhere. Most landed in Canada. Re-routed travelers and flight crews were hosted at Canadian Forces facilities in Goose Bay, Gander, and Stephenville,Newfoundland; Halifax, Shearwater, and Aldershot, Novia Scotia; Winnipeg, Manitoba; and, Yellowknife, Northwest Territories.

Canada rapidly mobilized its forces. Within hours, the Canadian Navy was on
alert with ships preparing to cast off immediately for any U.S. Port to help victims of the 9/11 attacks. Canada's Disaster Assistance Response Team
prepared to deploy from Trenton, Ontario. Canada dispersed CF-18 fighter
aircraft to strategic locations throughout Canada. No politics. No negotiating. No questions. They were just there. Canada would have fought any adversary that approached the United States that day.

Canada has been such an integral partner with the United States in the Global War on Terrorism that on December 7, 2004 when President Bush awarded
the Presidential Unit Citation to Commander Joint Force South for combat success in Afghanistan, he was also recognizing the secretive Canadian Joint
Task Force 2 commando counter-terrorism unit.

The U.S. Department of Defense has awarded 30 Bronze Star medals for
heroism in combat to Canadian Forces personnel. Some of those 30 died in
action. Many of the others were wounded. These Canadians earned this
American medal for heroism fighting alongside Americans. When we recall our
own dead heroes we must remember that these warriors gave their lives not
only for Canada, but also for the United States.

Canada is more than a neighbor. It is a close family member with the gumption to disagree with its brother to the south but always be there when disaster strikes and America needs help. For that, I salute you, Canada, and extend my respect for the sacrifices given by members of the Canadian Forces.
 
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