Western Women Interviewed On Why Western Men Go To Thailand

[Vixens]

To him, he wants his women to be docile, dainty, waify, sweet, look up to her man and know her place (don't talk back, etc). Makes him feel like a real man

I get the sense that it's more that he wants women to want to fuck him but keeps hearing that he's too short. Perhaps he's simply looking above his pay grade ( figuratively speaking )?
I'll reserve judgement until he responds to my question.

Steph

 

[fuji]

Seems like you answered your own question:





There`s more in his thread, but I can`t be bothered going through it:

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...tudes-of-Toronto-dating&highlight=third+world

Sure. But I don`t complain about local women. I`m also married to one.

You`ll also note that I used the word desperate back then too. If guys want to go date economically desperate women, that`s fine -- and it works -- but don`t go about claiming that it`s because they`re somehow better than Western women. They`re simply more desperate. It`s a fact.

 

[Teal]

Toronto just has a sociological problem, I don't know why others refuse to look at it a bit more closely, especially when we have two oral historical accounts from two different foreigners regarding Toronto men's/women's appalling concern over what others think of them.

Steph, your attitude is shit, I wonder if that's how you speak to clients, and others here should contemplate that as well. And you don't know what 'reserve judgement' means. I went to LA, and the women were friendlier and I had a great time there.

 

[fuji]

Funny, then, that so many people in Toronto wind up married and in relationships. I don't have many single friends, other than some guys under 30.

Women outnumber men in Toronto in every age bracket over 20--if you're a guy in Toronto and you can't hook up, it's you.

 

[Teal]

Funny, then, that so many people in Toronto wind up married and in relationships. I don't have many single friends, other than some guys under 30.

Women outnumber men in Toronto in every age bracket over 20--if you're a guy in Toronto and you can't hook up, it's you.

Don't be ridiculous.

I hook up fine here, thanks. Just not as quickly as I'd like.

On the flip side, I had a lady in my hotel bed within two days of my stay in LA.

Mentioning a gender ratio doesn't make sense, there's no simply no response to any of the oral historical accounts, much less the last three points in the article I posted.

Yes, a ratio can play a factor. Take a look at China. However if you take a look at Japan. 61% of men are single, and do not have a girlfriend.

 

[Vixens]

Toronto just has a sociological problem, I don't know why others refuse to look at it a bit more closely, especially when we have two oral historical accounts from two different foreigners regarding Toronto men's/women's appalling concern over what others think of them.

Steph, your attitude is shit, I wonder if that's how you speak to clients, and others here should contemplate that as well. And you don't know what 'reserve judgement' means. I went to LA, and the women were friendlier and I had a great time there.

How is my attitude shit exactly? I know precisely what reserve judgement means. Do you? Seriously Teal, give your head a shake.
I am not going to make assumptions on why someone feels the way they do. I will ask and then come to an opinion. You may not like my opinion, but I haven't actually presented it yet so really.... What exactly is your problem?

Steph

 

[Teal]

How is my attitude shit exactly? I know precisely what reserve judgement means. Do you?

Steph

I get the sense that it's more that he wants women to want to fuck him but keeps hearing that he's too short. Perhaps he's simply looking above his pay grade

Ok.

The phone line must be so bone dead, that you have to come on here and throw personal attacks and judgement on men you don't know.

 

[Smallcock]

if you're a guy in Toronto and you can't hook up, it's you.

I believe there is a lot of truth in this, and it's because the men complaining must realize that they're competing for perhaps 5% - 10% of the female population (below 30 years old, thin, attractive). I think that if a lot of guys reflected on their lives, they would recall many women in Toronto that wanted them and/or are currently open to relationships with them, but they're not interested in those women (the non-bombshell, non-girl-next-door types which are the majority of women). When they look at their neighbor's wives, they're likely disgusted and could never envision themselves committing to and spending their lives with women who are so physically unattractive. Men and women have been bombarded with images of physical perfection and believe more than ever before that it is their right to have the best.

But competition is fierce for young attractive women. Men of all ages and across all income groups are fighting for them. Wealthy men routinely buy these young attractive women and make them wives or mistresses, attractive males within in these young womens' peer group are constantly hitting them up for relationships. Combine that with the financial and social independence of young attractive women today, and many guys are going to get left out.

Only two options remain - to fight harder for the young hotties or reduce one's standards (say, a young woman who is medium build and average facial attractiveness).

Men who do not complain are one or more of the following: above average in physically attractiveness, above average in income level, lucked out with a gem, have compromised by accepting they will never be in a relationship with a beauty and settle for one of the hundreds of thousands of ordinary readily available women.

 

[Vixens]

Listen...not every western woman is bad, but enough on them are that for the average joe, they will have a much better time in a foreign country like Thailand, than staying in Canada, and trying to pick up women on POF, and then being told they are too short. I'm sure you agree with me on some level.

I get the sense that it's more that he wants women to want to fuck him but keeps hearing that he's too short. Perhaps he's simply looking above his pay grade

Ok.

The phone line must be so bone dead, that you have to come on here and throw personal attacks and judgement on men you don't know.

You were saying about personal attacks and passing judgement?

Steph

 

[Peterson]

What does not help is that Canada is an immigrant country, and men (I think) immigrate more then women. Women tend to be more passive, stay with their family, etc.
In the age groups 15-44 men outnumber women:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/89-503-x/2010001/article/11475/tbl/tbl002-eng.htm

 

[fuji]

What does not help is that Canada is an immigrant country, and men (I think) immigrate more then women. Women tend to be more passive, stay with their family, etc.
In the age groups 15-44 men outnumber women:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/89-503-x/2010001/article/11475/tbl/tbl002-eng.htm

There are more women than men in Toronto, at every age bracket over 20. Boys only outnumber girls under 20.

This is self selective, women are simply more likely to move to the city than men one they leave home. It is true of all major cities in the industrialized world.

 

[Peterson]

You are right. Hey, good to know.

 

[Blue-Spheroid]

i don't think there is one answer that fits all situations. there are men who go because they like thai women, there are those who go just to travel and meet thai women, there those who are desparate and never had a relationship and there are those who don't like strong women. thats just four reasons but there are as many reasons as there are men.

This is true. You can't generalize as there are many reasons why people do what they do. Many men travel to places like Thailand because it's like an SP vacation...so they're going there for the hobby...probably for similar reason as to why they hobby in other places.

The first lady interviewed in the clip comes back at the end and suggests that for Thai women, a western man is a more respectful and appreciative partner. Let's not forget there may be something in it for them too.

 

[afterhours]

There are more women than men in Toronto, at every age bracket over 20. Boys only outnumber girls under 20.

This is self selective, women are simply more likely to move to the city than men one they leave home. It is true of all major cities in the industrialized world.

Nobody wants a woman of their own age. So if you are forty and want a woman who is thirty and she is willing to consider you, then she is willing to consider everyone who is between forty and thirty, i.e. ten times more men. So the actual competition you are facing is ten to one. Multiply it by another ten to one if you are looking for top ten percent attractiveness and your chances are one out of a hundred.
Meanwhile your chances to score a woman of that age and attractiveness in a third world country are close to a hundred percent.

 

[fuji]

Nobody wants a woman of their own age. So if you are forty and want a woman who is thirty and she is willing to consider you, then she is willing to consider everyone who is between forty and thirty, i.e. ten times more men. So the actual competition you are facing is ten to one. Multiply it by another ten to one if you are looking for top ten percent attractiveness and your chances are one out of a hundred.

You got the math wrong. If all men are looking for younger women, e.g., a 30 year old guy isn't interested in a 32 year old woman, but a 42 year old guy is happier with her, then in fact the numbers improve for men, as there are FAR more 32 year old women than there are 42 year old men.

 

[afterhours]

You got the math wrong. If all men are looking for younger women, e.g., a 30 year old guy isn't interested in a 32 year old woman, but a 42 year old guy is happier with her, then in fact the numbers improve for men, as there are FAR more 32 year old women than there are 42 year old men.

You are way way off. Read my post again.

 

[fuji]

You are way way off. Read my post again.

Read mine. You got the math wrong, it won't work out the way you claim. Try it with pennies and dimes on a table if you like. The net effect of your claim is that guys will stay single 5-10 years longer than women will, but then all will find mates, and the ratio will IMPROVE for men, even though they ALL marry younger women.

There's also a big gulf between your claim and observed reality. The observed reality is that over 30 almost everybody is in a relationship. We do NOT see 9 out of 10 guys being single, it's the other way around.

 

[afterhours]

Read mine. You got the math wrong, it won't work out the way you claim. Try it with pennies and dimes on a table if you like. The net effect of your claim is that guys will stay single 5-10 years longer than women will, but then all will find mates, and the ratio will IMPROVE for men, even though they ALL marry younger women.

There's also a big gulf between your claim and observed reality. The observed reality is that over 30 almost everybody is in a relationship. We do NOT see 9 out of 10 guys being single, it's the other way around.

How on earth the effect of my claim is that all guys would find mates? There will not be enough young women for old men. Never was, never will be. same with good looking women. that is why majority of people are in relationships with women who are neither young nor good looking. i don't understand how can you dispute the obvious.

Again, every young good looking (let s say top ten percent) woman who is willing to consider people who are up to ten years older and whose looks don't matter, can choose out of 100 people. That is her generation of men plus every man who is up to ten years older. that is the competition.
And I think it's quite realistic to say that only one out of a hundred men would score such a woman. That's why they are called trophies.
Further, if you go to a third world country, you may well become one out of hundred due to your financial situation. That is why people do it.

 

[SeasonedOne]

There are myriad reasons why a man would seek a Thai bride, and not all of them have to do with a desire for domination. If a man has been unlucky in his romantic life - if he is ugly or painfully shy, if he has trouble communicating or there's just something a bit "off" about the way he looks or his body shape (according to societal norms) - he can conceivably go through his whole life in a Western country without finding love or forming a life bond. It's not women's fault - we are all trained by society (and to a certain extent by genetics) to be attracted to certain kinds of people, and sometimes we're simply not one of those guys. At the same time, even an undesirable is attracted to the same standards of beauty as everyone else, so is not likely to find much to desire in less desirable (and hence available) women.
This can be a desperate circumstance, and a man will latch on to any - and I mean ANY - lifeline to satisfy his need for sex, companionship and comfort. So if a beautiful Thai woman is - for her own reasons - willing to offer this comfort, then this opportunity will be taken. This does not make the man an asshole. This makes him a man who wants the same privilege to love an be loved that he sees all around him - a privilege enjoyed by legions of assholes, losers, abusers and idiots who just happen to be charming and/or physically attractive.

 

[afterhours]

So if a beautiful Thai woman is - for her own reasons - willing to offer this comfort, then this opportunity will be taken. This does not make the man an asshole. This makes him a man who wants the same privilege to love an be loved that he sees all around him - a privilege enjoyed by legions of assholes, losers, abusers and idiots who just happen to be charming and/or physically attractive.

I think you can also add to these legions all the western women who enjoy men's attention every day exactly as a guy walking down a street in Cuba or Thailand enjoys women's attention.