Well Chrus Chrustie just ended his run
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Its not a lie if you just don't like the post.
It’s refreshing to actually see you not lie about something for once.
Exactly. That’s the entire point of the idea. It affects the Dems far more than the GOP.
It’s yet another obvious effort to restrict access to voting in a way that favours the GOP.
Um, anyone can register in their state as either a Democrat or Republican, and vote in the primary. And in some states you don't even have to do that. So there is no restriction happening.
My point was the GOP base is older as people tend to be more conservative as they get older. But they don't just vote for themselves but their kids as well. Add on its lots of retirees with time on their hands. So when it comes to Social Security/Medicare as a rule they dont mention it except to rich donors in private. That's why I said he just ended his run. They don't think of it as welfare but as having been paid into. Its a different mindset than other forms of govt payments.
Exactly why the GOP has started talking about raising the voting age to 25
People have been voting for candidates who say Social Security and Medicare need to be cut for decades.
That isn't what is going to make or break Christie's campaign.
That isn't what is going to make or break Christie's campaign.
I guess it might reduce his share of the GOP primary vote from 2% to 1.99632%....
Citation please. Otherwise you're just pulling this out of your ass.
When you find actual evidence of this, please be so kind as to also tell us what percentage of older conservative people vote for socialist programs because of their children and in opposition of their political tenets.
The GOP has long floated various other restrictions for voting. It is, still, mostly a fringe position, with the "voting integrity" smokescreen used instead to push voter restriction.
But the GOP has floated removing women's right to vote, raising the age, requiring a college degree (that was back when Republicans consistently won the college educated vote), civics test, even a return to "must own property".
All the ones that rely on it. Nuff said. You assume that they equate SS with welfare, they dont. They think of it more like CPP. Does that help?
The Dynamic Duo that will sweep the 2024 Election in the same manner that Ronald Reagan won in 1984. Back then only Massechusetts went Democrat. Handel's Hallelujah Chorus will resound that day.
So you have no proof to back up your claims. You're just making it up. If you had proof of your hypothesis you'd post it.
Why am I not surprised?
Older conservatives will support cuts to social/socialist programs. Christie's statements on this topic will not hurt him.
Sure, but it is very unlikely to give us any information supporting or refuting Butler's opinion.
Christie was polling low single digits before he made this statement and no one expects him to win.
When he doesn't win, it won't say a thing about Social Security, unless that weirdly becomes the focus for the campaign on all sides all of a sudden.
Also, since Trump, who is in favor of cutting social security and medicare (he supported cuts in every one of his budgets) is likely to win, that doesn't tell us anything either.
We just aren't going to get any information on it from these primaries.
It reminds that every post election analysis, we hear the experts say "the nation showed that they didn't want this or they didn't want that". When 80 million people vote for one side, we don't really know what all the reasons were for people voting a certain way. It's all speculation mixed in with the analysist's own particular bias.
Butler can say what he wants. I pointed out the failed logic of his position of older GOPers voting for socialist programs for reasons that Butler invented. GOPers always voted against socialist programs in the past and they had children but somehow Butler thinks that they're going to do a 180 now. He doesn't like how Christie attacks the cult leader and comes up with anything he can to put Christie down, regardless of how contrary his argument is to the basic tenet of conservative ideology. SOCIALISM IS BAD. End of story.
I didn't feel like going around in circles with him, so it was like, "yeah OK, whatever".
As there has never been a cut voted in nethinks you are mistaken. Care to supply proof?
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