Well Chrus Chrustie just ended his run

[Butler1000]

This is a second fact check debunking Val.

Biden’s False Attacks on Trump’s Social Security ‘Plan’ - FactCheck.org

A Biden campaign TV ad falsely claims that a government analysis of President Donald Trump's "planned cuts to Social Security" shows that “if Trump gets his way, Social Security benefits will run out in just three years from now.”

www.factcheck.org

 

[Butler1000]

So you have no proof to back up your claims. You're just making it up. If you had proof of your hypothesis you'd post it.

Why am I not surprised?

Older conservatives will support cuts to social/socialist programs. Christie's statements on this topic will not hurt him.

Social Security and American Public Opinion

Americans greatly value and depend on the Social Security system, even as estimates show it will face significant financial challenges within 15 years.

news.gallup.com

Considering the overwhelming positive numbers for SS a crapton of GOP voters must also support it. And its safe to say some wealthy Democrat voting Wall St employees and other rich folk feel the opposite.

American Attitudes About Poverty and the Poor

Informing a Smarter World

www.prb.org

Here is the other side where even poor Americans look down on welfare recipients.

 

[Valcazar]

It reminds that every post election analysis, we hear the experts say "the nation showed that they didn't want this or they didn't want that". When 80 million people vote for one side, we don't really know what all the reasons were for people voting a certain way. It's all speculation mixed in with the analysist's own particular bias.

This is exactly true.
The spin on "what the election really showed" is always heavily influenced by the narratives the media already wanted to push.
Especially in something like a US presidential election, where people vote strategically and you can limited information on their intentions (as is the case in all Plurality voting).

 

[Valcazar]

As there has never been a cut voted in nethinks you are mistaken. Care to supply proof?

Hang on.
Because Trump's proposed budgets weren't passed that means he never proposed them?

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

www.cnn.com

This is a second fact check debunking Val.

Biden’s False Attacks on Trump’s Social Security ‘Plan’ - FactCheck.org

A Biden campaign TV ad falsely claims that a government analysis of President Donald Trump's "planned cuts to Social Security" shows that “if Trump gets his way, Social Security benefits will run out in just three years from now.”

www.factcheck.org

These are both about his campaign promise about payroll tax.
And yeah, spinning that as a proposed cut in social security is stretching things.

What does that have to do with Trump proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid in the budgets he submitted to congress?

 

[Valcazar]

Older voters hate welfare and love SS. You just can't figure out why.

I am now intrigued to hear your explanation why.

 

[Butler1000]

Hang on.
Because Trump's proposed budgets weren't passed that means he never proposed them?





These are both about his campaign promise about payroll tax.
And yeah, spinning that as a proposed cut in social security is stretching things.

What does that have to do with Trump proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid in the budgets he submitted to congress?

Because he didn't

 

[Butler1000]

I am now intrigued to hear your explanation why.

My posts to Shack.

 

[Valcazar]

Because he didn't

Not even trying anymore, I see.

My posts to Shack.

That post says they view them differently, it doesn't get into why.
I want to hear you explain why.

 

[Butler1000]

Not even trying anymore, I see.



That post says they view them differently, it doesn't get into why.
I want to hear you explain why.

Lol.

 

[Valcazar]

Lol.

Always a shame when you just give up.
It's much more interesting to see you dig holes and spin.

 

[morgantownwv]

Always a shame when you just give up.
It's much more interesting to see you dig holes and spin.

Interesting.