"We Love Muslims"

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Mark Zuckerberg, a guy that just ooozes awkwardness and makes you uncomfortable just hearing him speak.

"Now Mark Zuckerberg, the founder of the site, has added his voice to one of the most contentious political issues of the moment, with a strong statement on Wednesday night in support of Muslims and Islam.
Granted, his statement also made good business sense for Facebook. The site has just over one billion daily active users, many of them Muslims."
Equally and probably even more important to him, he also employs a lot of people from the Indian Subcontinent in the U.S. on H1B Visas
 

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http://mytoba.ca/news/swiss-media-warns-of-canadian-terror-threat/

Our young Prime Minister will probably call this more fear mongering.

BTW: Up in Northern Ontario, we call men like Trump "straight shooters", "all bull, no shit" and calling a spade a bloody shovel. Men (and women) like him are a rarity in 2015. That man has more guts than all the liberal lefties combined.
Guts? Trump hid from viet nam. He talks tough but won't put his own life on the line. He talks the talk but can't walk the walk
 

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Its hard for the elite to admit they were/are wrong

Rather than proceeding with more caution after terrorist incidents, the politicians and their media enablers double down on the love fest.

Right after the Paris attacks, the French political elite were happy to commit to fast tracking even more Muslim immigrants. I guess they think they will win over the hearts and minds of Muslims or score points in some game they're playing that doesn't involve the input of the people they represent.
This stupidity is what got them into the unfix-able position they are in now.

More stupidity doesn't correct stupidity.

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a lot of people from the Indian Subcontinent in the U.S. on H1B Visas
The Indian sub-continent is a land of many religions, the main ones are Hindu, Muslim and Sikhs. The wise Brits tried to separate the Hindus and Sikhs from the Muslims by creating the two Pakistans (now Pakistan and Bangledesh).

BTW: Did I ever tell you I have a soft spot for the Sikhs?
 

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Didn't Trudeau and the Liberals make it government policy not to include Muslim men in the refugees accepted to come to Canada.
I saw a linebacker size 19 year old male refugee being greeted by his Canadian sponsor yesterday.
http://www.burlingtongazette.ca/?p=43696

I heard that the Armenian community is sponsoring quite a few of the refugees. I like Armenians, good hard working peaceful people.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...in-but-happy-they-are-coming/article27708493/
 

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I'd be interested to know how many of the Christian minorities in Syria and Iraq are being accepted as refugees to Canada.

To be a Christian will get you an automatic death sentence in ISIS held territory and many hundreds have been executed already.

So far on the news, they only show Muslims arriving in Canada.
 

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The Indian sub-continent is a land of many religions, the main ones are Hindu, Muslim and Sikhs. The wise Brits tried to separate the Hindus and Sikhs from the Muslims by creating the two Pakistans (now Pakistan and Bangledesh).

BTW: Did I ever tell you I have a soft spot for the Sikhs?
Sikhism and Hinduism are distinct religions, but share many philosophical concepts such as Karma, Dharma, Mukti, Maya and Saṃsāra. In the days of islamic Mughal oppression, in which Hindus were being converted to Islam through oppression and force, Sikhism came to their defence against the muslim Mughals in India.

The differences between Sikhism and Islam tend to revolve around how followers regard other religions. While Sikhs believe that followers of all religions can achieve salvation, Muslims believe that only Islamic converts can enter paradise. Similarly, Sikhs unlike Muslims do not believe that any Holy Scripture takes precedence over another.

The root of islamic terrorism is the idea of islamic supremacy - similar to the way Nazi's felt aryans were superior to all other races.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html

The Greatest Murder Machine in History

When one thinks of mass murder, Hitler comes to mind. If not Hitler, then Tojo, Stalin, or Mao. Credit is given to the 20th-century totalitarians as the worst species of tyranny to have ever arisen. However, the alarming truth is that Islam has killed more than any of these, and may surpass all of them combined in numbers and cruelty.

The enormity of the slaughters of the "religion of peace" are so far beyond comprehension that even honest historians overlook the scale. When one looks beyond our myopic focus, Islam is the greatest killing machine in the history of mankind, bar none.

The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. -- Will Durant, as quoted on Daniel Pipes site.

Conservative estimates place the number at 80 million dead Indians.

According to some calculations, the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate). -- Koenrad Elst as quoted on Daniel Pipes site

80 Million?! The conquistadors' crimes pale into insignificance at that number. No wonder Hitler admired Islam as a fighting religion. He stood in awe of Islam, whose butchery even he did not surpass.

Over 110 Million Blacks were killed by Islam.

... a minumum of 28 Million African were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. Since, at least, 80 percent of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave market, it is believed that the death toll from 1400 years of Arab and Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been as high as 112 Millions. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the trans-Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 Million people. -- John Allembillah Azumah, author of The Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa: A Quest for Inter-religious Dialogue

Add just those two numbers alone together, and Islam has surpassed the victims of 20th-century totalitarianism. However, it does not end there. Add the millions who died at the hand of Muslims in the Sudan in our lifetime.

Much of Islamic slavery was sexual in nature, with a preference for women. Those men who were captured were castrated. The mulatto children of the women were often killed, which explains why Islam was not demographically shifted towards the black race, unlike slaves in the West, who bore children to breed a mestizo class. Add in those dead children; and we arrive at well over 200 million.

Remember that in the 7th century, North Africa was almost totally Christian. What happened to them?

By the year 750, a hundred years after the conquest of Jerusalem, at least 50 percent of the world's Christians found themselves under Muslim hegemony… Today there is no indigenous Christianity in the region [of Northwest Africa], no communities of Christians whose history can be traced to antiquity.-- "Christianity Face to Face with Islam," CERC

What happened to those Christian millions? Some converted. The rest? Lost to history.

We know that over 1 million Europeans were enslaved by Barbary Pirates. How many died is anybody's guess.

...for the 250 years between 1530 and 1780, the figure could easily have been as high as 1,250,000 - BBC

In the Middle Ages…

…many slaves were passed through Armenia and were castrated there to fill the Muslim demand for eunuchs. -- Slavery in Early Medieval Europe.

The same practice ran through Islamic Spain. North Europeans captured from raids up to Iceland, or purchased, were butchered in the castratoriums of Iberia. Many died from the operations that ran for centuries.

The number of dead from the Muslim conquest of the Balkans and Southern Italy is unknown, but again the numbers add up, surely into the millions over the centuries. Don't forget the 1.5 million Armenian Christians killed by the Turks during WWI. We do know that over five centuries, vast numbers of Christian boys were kidnapped to become Islamic Janissary mercenaries for the Turks. Add those in, too.

Muslims prized blonde women for their harems; and so enslaved Slavic women were purchased in the bazaars of the Crimean Caliphate. In Muslim Spain, an annual tribute of 100 Visigothic [blonde] women was required from Spain's Cantabrian coast.

For decades, 100 virgins per year were required by the Muslim rulers of Spain from the conquered population. The tribute was only stopped when the Spaniards began fighting back -- Jihad: Islam's 1,300 Year War Against Western Civilisation

Add in the death toll from the Reconquista and the numbers climb higher.

Research has shown that the Dark Ages were not caused by the Goths, who eventually assimilated and Christianized:

…the real destroyers of classical civilization were the Muslims. It was the Arab Invasions... which broke the unity of the Mediterranean world and turned the Middle Sea -- previously one of the world’s most important trading highways -- into a battleground. It was only after the appearance of Islam... that the cities of the West, which depended upon the Mediterranean trade for their survival, began to die. -- Islam Caused the Dark Ages

Add in those unknown millions who died as a consequence.

How many know the horrors of the conquest of Malaysia? The Buddhists of Thailand and Malaysia were slaughtered en masse.

When attacked and massacred by the Muslims, the Buddhists initially did not make any attempt to escape from their murderers. They accepted death with an air of fatalism and destiny. And hence they are not around today to tell their story. – History of Jihad.org

We may never know the numbers of dead.

After Muslims came to power in the early 15th century, animist hill peoples eventually disappeared due to their enslavement and ‘incorporation’ into the Muslim population of Malaya, Sumatra, Borneo, and Java via raids, tribute and purchase, especially of children. Java was the largest exporter of slaves around 1500. -- Islam Monitor

In the same manner, Islam arrived in the Philippines. Only the appearance of the Spanish stopped a total collapse, and confined Islam to the southern islands.

The coming of the Spanish saved the Philippines from Islam, except for the Southern tip where the population had been converted to Islam.-- History of Jihad.org

Again, the number of dead is unknown; but add them to the total.

The animist Filipinos were eager to ally with the Spanish against Islam. In fact, much of Southeast Asia welcomed the Spanish and Portuguese as preferable to Islam.

...from the 17th century successive Thai kings allied themselves with the seafaring Western powers – the Portuguese and the Dutch and succeeded in staving off the threat of Islam from the Muslim Malays and their Arab overlords.-- History of Jihad.org

A few galleons and muskets were not enough to conquer Asia. Islam had made the Europeans initially appear as liberators; and to a certain extent they were. Who were the real imperialists?

Even today...

...Malaysian Jihadis are plotting to transform multi-ethnic Malaysia into an Islamic Caliphate, and fomenting trouble in Southern Thailand.-- History of Jihad.org

Add this all up. The African victims. The Indian victims. The European victims. Add in the Armenian genocide. Then add in the lesser known, but no doubt quite large number of victims of Eastern Asia. Add in the jihad committed by Muslims against China, which was invaded in 651 AD. Add in the Crimean Khanate predations on the Slavs, especially their women.

Though the numbers are not clear, what is obvious is that Islam is the greatest murder machine in history bar none, possibly exceeding 250 million dead. Possibly one-third to one-half or more of all those killed by war or slavery in history can be traced to Islam; and this is just a cursory examination.

Now consider the over 125 Million women today who have been genitally mutilated for Islamic honor's sake. In spite of what apologists tell you, the practice is almost totally confined to Islamic areas.

New information from Iraqi Kurdistan raises the possibility that the problem is more prevalent in the Middle East than previously believed and that FGM is far more tied to religion than many Western academics and activists admit. – “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

Once thought concentrated in Africa, FGM has now been discovered to be common wherever Islam is found.

There are indications that FGM might be a phenomenon of epidemic proportions in the Arab Middle East. Hosken, for instance, notes that traditionally all women in the Persian Gulf region were mutilated. Arab governments refuse to address the problem. -- "Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?" ME Quarterly

Remember that this has gone on for 1400 years; and was imposed on a population that had been formerly Christian or pagan.

FGM is practiced on large scale in Islamic Indonesia; and is increasing.

...far from scaling down, the problem of FGM in Indonesia has escalated sharply. The mass ceremonies in Bandung have grown bigger and more popular every year. -- Guardian

The horrified British author of that Guardian article is still deluded that Islam does not support FGM, when in fact it is now settled that FGM is a core Islamic practice. Islamic women have been brainwashed to support their own abuse.

Abu Sahlieh further cited Muhammad as saying, "Circumcision is a sunna (tradition) for the men and makruma (honorable deed) for the women." -- “Is Female Genital Mutilation an Islamic Problem?” ME Quarterly

What other tyranny does this? Not even the Nazis mutilated their own women!

Unlike the 20th-century totalitarians whose killing fury consumed themselves, reducing their longevity, Islam paces itself. In the end, though slower, Islam has killed and tortured far more than any other creed, religious or secular. Unlike secular tyranny, Islam, by virtue of its polygamy and sexual predations, reproduces itself and increases.

Other tyrannies are furious infections, which burn hot, but are soon overcome. Islam is a slow terminal cancer, which metastasizes, and takes over. It never retreats. Its methods are more insidious, often imperceptible at first, driven by demographics. Like cancer, excision may be the only cure.

So whenever you read about this or that Israeli outrage -- and there may be truth to the complaint -- place the news in context. Look whom the Israelis are fighting against. Islam is like nothing else in history.

Mike Konrad is the pen name of an American who is not Jewish, Latin, or Arab. He runs a website, http://latinarabia.com, where he discusses the subculture of Arabs in Latin America. He wishes his Spanish were better.



Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html#ixzz3u2HGKrS7
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It does seem like there's been one giant love-in towards muslims in Canada lately. Ironically, after every international terrorist incident, people seem to rally around muslims even more.
If you can rally around gun owners after the children massacred at Sandy Hook, the massacre at the theatre, the abortion clinic ....etc..etc ... it may not be that hard to rally around Muslims fleeing for there lives from terrorists - a stretch but apparently not that great of distance for some.

Trump is a rallying pole for all racists. When he had to cancel a trip to Israel because the prime minister and other high officials called him out on his racist extremism - you know you've hit rock bottom ... or hero worship for many of the rednecks in the US.
 

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I'd be interested to know how many of the Christian minorities in Syria and Iraq are being accepted as refugees to Canada.

To be a Christian will get you an automatic death sentence in ISIS held territory and many hundreds have been executed already.

So far on the news, they only show Muslims arriving in Canada.
agreed - I've already asked how many Yazidis and Christians were brought over? Although I don't expect Trudeau II will allow that information to become public. Of course, they are less likely to vote for or support the Liberal party which has no shame courting Islamists.
 

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The Indian sub-continent is a land of many religions, the main ones are Hindu, Muslim and Sikhs. The wise Brits tried to separate the Hindus and Sikhs from the Muslims by creating the two Pakistans (now Pakistan and Bangledesh).

BTW: Did I ever tell you I have a soft spot for the Sikhs?
True and yes you have.

However due to that a significant number of the holders of H1B visas employed by Facebook are Muslims.

Also Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the All-India Muslim League had far more to due with the creation of Pakistan than the British.
 

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True and yes you have.

However due to that a significant number of the holders of H1B visas employed by Facebook are Muslims.

Also Muhammad Ali Jinnah and the All-India Muslim League had far more to due with the creation of Pakistan than the British.
I've been to India a couple of times, even spent time in Kashmir which is claimed by both India and Pakistan. There is no chance Pakistan would exist if not for the British.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/21/pakistan-the-demon-the-west-created

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/edit-page/Pakistan-a-British-creation/articleshow/1148741.cms
 

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If you can rally around gun owners after the children massacred at Sandy Hook, the massacre at the theatre, the abortion clinic ....etc..etc ... it may not be that hard to rally around Muslims fleeing for there lives from terrorists - a stretch but apparently not that great of distance for some.

Trump is a rallying pole for all racists. When he had to cancel a trip to Israel because the prime minister and other high officials called him out on his racist extremism - you know you've hit rock bottom ... or hero worship for many of the rednecks in the US.
Trump wants to crack down on illegal immigration and keep the scumbag type mexicans out of the US, many of whom who are in murican prisons. Wasn't aware islam was a race, thanks for enlightening us, and why are only white people racist?:frusty::frusty::frusty:
 

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Without partition, there would have been even more of a bloodbath than there was.
Please - your speculation is simply the same propaganda used to gain support for the British creation of Pakistan. Unless you have a time machine and go back and change things - there is no way to know that.

We are feeling the blowback from the decision to this day. Are you really surprised Bin Laden was found in Pakistan or that the San Bernardino terrorists are tied to Pakistan. The list goes on and on and on. Create an Islamic state and what do you get? Islamists. Genocidal, terroristic, barbaric Islamists.

Most of the moderate, educated, intelligent Pakistani's have already left the country. The only ones left are mostly the poor and the radical. The islamists will be in full control soon.

Pakistan is one of the epicenters of global terrorism.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/pakistan-soon-to-be-islam_n_188182.html

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article24534646.html

They may have waited too long to turn things around. There are hundreds or perhaps thousands of islamists in the Pakistani army and Pakistani Intelligence services ISI.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ce12fa-8d58-11e4-ace9-47de1af4c3eb_story.html

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...ssassination-analysts-fear/article1977621.ece
 

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Guts? Trump hid from viet nam. He talks tough but won't put his own life on the line. He talks the talk but can't walk the walk
While he is a draft dodger (like most politicians and wealthy people his age), his words are more than just talk. What he says has serious repercussions on him and his business, and his family (we're seeing that with the drop in sponsorships, corporate deals with Trump brand, etc). And he's saying things that some deem so polarizing that there is no doubt he is now risking his life to some degree.

So I would agree with SkyRider that Trump has more guts than virtually every politician in North America.
 

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While he is a draft dodger (like most politicians and wealthy people his age), his words are more than just talk. What he says has serious repercussions on him and his business, and his family (we're seeing that with the drop in sponsorships, corporate deals with Trump brand, etc). And he's saying things that some deem so polarizing that there is no doubt he is now risking his life to some degree.

So I would agree with SkyRider that Trump has more guts than virtually every politician in North America.
being a draft dodger is a bad thing??? There are millions of slaves being held in Islamic countries at the present time - I'm pretty sure they were all "drafted" Pakistan alone has over 2 million slaves.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/015-slavery.htm

https://mises.org/library/conscription-and-other-draconian-taxes

Conscription and Other Draconian Taxes

MARCH 13, 2015Ryan McMaken
TAGS Taxes and SpendingWar and Foreign Policy

Conscription (i.e., “the draft”) was ended in the United States more than forty years ago, but it continues to be widely used outside North America and Western Europe. Recently, conscription in Ukraine has become an international issue as the Ukrainian state has reinstated the draft and met with significant opposition in many areas of the country.

The use of forced military service in the region is hardly unique to Ukraine — Russia has a draft, too — but recent opposition has highlighted the fact that conscription is fundamentally incompatible with even a moderate amount of respect for private property.

Conscription as a 100 Percent Tax

“Conscription is slavery,” Murray Rothbard wrote in 1973, and while temporary conscription is obviously much less bad — assuming one outlives the term of conscription — than many other forms of slavery, conscription is nevertheless a nearly-100-percent tax on the production of one’s mind and body. If one attempts to escape his confinement in his open-air military jail, he faces imprisonment or even execution in many cases.

Conscription remains popular among states because it is an easy way to directly extract resources from the population. Just as regular taxes partially extract the savings, productivity, and labor of the general population, conscription extracts virtually all of the labor and effort of the conscripts. The burden falls disproportionately on the young males in most cases, and they are at risk of a much higher tax burden if killed or given a permanent disability in battle. If he’s lucky enough to survive the conflict, the conscript may find himself living out the rest of his life as disfigured or missing his eyesight and limbs. He may be rendered permanently undesirable to the opposite sex. Such costs imposed on the conscript are a form of lifelong taxation.

Fortunately for those who escape such a fate, the term of slavery ends at a specified time, but for the duration, the only freedom the conscript enjoys is that granted to him by his jailers. Rothbard explains:

… at whatever time the federal government deems fit, he is seized by the authorities and inducted into the armed forces. There his body and will are no longer his own; he is subject to the dictates of the government; and he can be forced to kill and to place his own life in jeopardy if the authorities so decree. What else is involuntary servitude if not the draft?
Not surprisingly, in all times and places where drafts are instituted, there are those who attempt to avoid it, and steps are taken by governments to capture these so-called “draft dodgers” in the government’s dragnet. The Ukrainian government has certainly been proactive in its own efforts to punish those who attempt to escape this 100 percent tax, even going so far as to imprison people who speak out against it. The Guardian reports:

Ruslan Kotsaba posted a video addressed to the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, last week in which he said he would rather go to prison for five years for draft-dodging than fight pro-Russia rebels in the country’s east. Now he faces fifteen years in jail after being arrested for treason and obstructing the military ...

Ukrainian men aged 25–60 are eligible for conscription and 75,000 have been called up, of whom 60 percent will enter service …

A government decree regulates foreign travel for those subject to mobilisation. It means people could be arrested at border checkpoints, with those guilty of draft-dodging facing up to five years in prison.
One will find similar actions — to varying degrees —wherever conscription exists, with even harsher penalties arising during wartime.

Payment in Lieu of Slavery

States have long implicitly recognized the fundamental nature of conscription as a form of taxation. In Switzerland, for example, young men who are found unfit for military service are assessed an additional tax for a period of years in lieu of military service.

In other places, such as the United States, where state and local conscription existed prior to the Civil War, those with means were able to avoid military service by paying an additional tax of various sorts, or paying for “substitutes.”

Moreover, those states that are able to extract large amounts of resources from the general population on a reliable and ongoing basis will not need to resort to conscription. In the United States for example, where the dollar’s reserve status allows the state to endlessly increase military spending via debt monetization, there is little need for conscription. In this case, the state can continually fund propaganda campaigns to attract volunteers, pay salaried mercenaries, and fund projects that replace human personnel with capital, as in the case of drones and other remote-control operations.

Where states enjoy less financial independence, however, as in Russia and Ukraine, governments must rely on directly confiscating all of the productive capacity of certain individuals for a period of years. Indeed, conscription is often also a sign of a government attempting to wage war on the cheap. Also, in some cases, it’s politically easier to impose the 100 percent conscription tax on a relatively-small minority (young males) than on a larger portion of the productive taxpaying public.

The Propaganda

Fortunately for many states, they can rely on nationalist ideology to shame many of those subject to conscription into acceptance. These efforts are of course encouraged by the states themselves with their own propaganda campaigns and claims that one owes one’s government in the form of “duty” and “service.” This “duty” is of course paid by the conscript on top of whatever taxes he may have been paying in his youth or will be paying if he lives to return to private life following his term of conscription. Virtually nowhere in the modern world is military conscription a substitute for taxes later paid to the government.

The arguments used in the cases of conscription differ little from the same claims made in efforts to shame citizens into paying more in taxes. As can be seen in this 1943 propaganda video in favor of income taxes, taxes are something someone should pay “gladly and proudly.” Moreover, tax increases are blamed on the need for wartime expenses: “Thanks to Hitler and Hirohito, taxes are higher than ever before.” In other words, if one does not gladly pay one’s income taxes, he is supporting Hirohito and Hitler.

Conscription Does Not Equal Military Defense

The matter of conscription is independent from the question of military defense. Supporters of compulsory military often attempt to conflate the two issues, but as J. R. Hummel has shown, the United States, from the 1820s up to the Civil War, relied almost exclusively on semi-private militias for national defense purposes, even in a time when raids from Indian tribes were a very real threat in western states. In fact, Hummel notes, it was the private militias that were the most effective military forces with the more consistent records of success compared to groups of conscripts. This is not surprising since a volunteer military naturally includes those individuals who have self-selected into military work thus providing the benefits of a voluntary division of labor.

At the same time, if a government is unable to attract a sufficient number of military volunteers, if conscripts attempt to flee the country, and if citizens are reluctant to pay taxes, this should be a hint to everyone that — at least from the average person’s point of view — the government’s foreign policy leaves much to be desired.
 

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So I would agree with SkyRider that Trump has more guts than virtually every politician in North America.
Calling Trump a "politician" is a huge insult to all those scumbags who earn their living in politics.
Trumps simply a wealthy self promoting troll
 
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