Vice-Presidential Debate
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Well, you will have to pass a test to become a canadian citizen, so maybe you will have to learn a bit about Canada first.langeweile said:And imagine soon I can call you "my fellow citizen".
I will have a German, American and Canadian passport.
Taxes - what can I say - I proved you to be the liar we all thought you where
What the fuck you are talking about??
I am glad you found another way in trying to attack my credibility. First bigot now liar...man where have i heard such rhetoric before..mmhmm yeah....it is called democratic election strategy.
Are you implying that i am to stupid to read my own paycheck??
It seems very clear to me that the difference between my gross pay and net pay equals just that.
Well maybe you could add stupid too.
BTW...How much time have you lived in Europe?? Well let me think i lived there about 25 years or so...
What the fuck you are talking about??
I am glad you found another way in trying to attack my credibility. First bigot now liar...man where have i heard such rhetoric before..mmhmm yeah....it is called democratic election strategy.
Are you implying that i am to stupid to read my own paycheck??
It seems very clear to me that the difference between my gross pay and net pay equals just that.
Well maybe you could add stupid too.
BTW...How much time have you lived in Europe?? Well let me think i lived there about 25 years or so...
At least i will make the effort, just like I did in the USA.danmand said:Well, you will have to pass a test to become a canadian citizen, so maybe you will have to learn a bit about Canada first.
Most Canadians that run their mouth on the US, only know waht the CBC tells them.
it is striking how ignorant a lot of Canadians are on the USA.
Re: Re: Re: 2 Days later also
Keith Olbermann had a good line, calling it the "I never met John Edwards and you sir, are no John Edwards" moment.bbking said:She certainly did and rightly so. I think Chenney was trying to pull a Lloyd Benson on Edwards - you know the comment about Qual being no JFK -
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bbking said:I would say that I have to agree with you here Danmand. The top tier last year on Federal Tax was 21.7% on the first 104,648.00 and 29% on anything above that. The top tier of Provincial tax is 7.60% on the first 64,871.00 and 11.16%. Even if Lange was paying at the top rate for every dime he made and had no deductions for children, spouse and personal he would be paying 40.16%. Now it needs to be noted that I haven't included the Ontario surtax but I doubt that would increase to 42% in normal circumstance but to be consistant lets keep in mind that the sur-tax is a % of total provincial tax owed, or 20% of 11.16%. So if every dollar was charged at the top rate, the surtax rate would total 2.232%, so now all together at the top tier rate the total paid is 42.392%. But it is impossible to pay that rate since everyone gets at least the Basic Deduction and the tax rate is a graduated scale.
Yeah the guy is in dire need of an accountant - or maybe someone should check Pinoccio's nose.
Your arrogance will be your downfall one day.
Your assumptionon my taxes could not be any more wrong.
I was not granted any tax deductions for my children or my house or anything.
The only difference I got back was the fact that my place of business is in QC and not ON.
It might have to do with my status here.
From your post you and the other guy seem to know much about it..unfortunately you don't know everything.
Or maybe I have the wrong advise.
Although my partner is a CPA. Well maybe he is stupid too.
And oh shit I was off by fucking 2%
Against my better judgement i have checked my deductions on my paycheck up to date and yup they are 40.7%.bbking said:Yeap - that's exactly what I am implying.
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On tne left side is the total amount right next to it are the amount deducted until today followed by the net payed out.
Either way you slice it or dice it, it doesn't come even close to the 24% in Texas which was my original point.
Happy Thanksgiving
Am I ever happy, that takes me off the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bbking said:This is the dumbest post I have ever read.
Besides the income tax, you are deducted CPP up to a max of $1831.50 and, if you are not a owner of the company, EI premiums as well.langeweile said:Against my better judgement i have checked my deductions on my paycheck up to date and yup they are 40.7%.
On tne left side is the total amount right next to it are the amount deducted until today followed by the net payed out.
Either way you slice it or dice it, it doesn't come even close to the 24% in Texas which was my original point.
Happy Thanksgiving
Abraham Lincoln. Actually what he said, is that you can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. We'll see if GW can fool enough people to get his butt re-elected., or simply look foolish trying. Looking forward to tonights debate.bbking said:..... what's the phrase - "you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"
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Agreed. The 'them against us' attitudes of the past have created many wars where leaders have masterfully contrived threatening differences to describe their enemy. That's what drives the hate to support such wars. And Bin Laden and Bush are doing the same today. Each is using hate to gather support. But I question if playing out this war (on terror) is not only skirting the real problems but will also divide the world. In fact, I believe the Bush administration's campaign of hate against terrorists is unwittingly playing into Bin Laden's hand.Fortunato said:Technically, it is "they're evil". But, nitpicking aside, it is astonishing at how anxious people are to believe that everyone else is so different than themselves. Arabs/Muslims are "crazy", or "uneducated", or "stupid", or "hateful", or (and this one really gets me) "jealous".
They are the SAME as you and I. They have the same characteristics, and (by and large), the same belief structures. What differences there are are entirely cosmetic.
See, they also have politicians (and OBL is, for all intents and purposes, a politician), and... get this: their politicians can LIE, too. They aren't attacking us out of hatred/jealousy, they WANT something... and, in the end, that something is ALWAYS money/resources/power.
Sure, they justify it using religion (or other arguments) to improve appearances. It's HARD to convince someone to strap a bomb to their ass for more money/resources/power for the leaders... sometimes you HAVE to tell them that the enemy is DIFFERENT, and it's what God wants. It's HARD to convince someone to put a bullet through an Iraqi's head for more money/resources/power for Exxon Mobil... so you HAVE to tell them that the enemy is DIFFERENT, and it's to keep your homeland safe (or that it's for his own good, or whatever the story is these days).
But guess what? They aren't the only ones. Wasn't the latest Iraq for WMD/liberation of Iraqis? (No). And, weren't the Crusades all about spreading Christianity to these "heathens"? (No). In fact... was there ever a war where the "real truth" was the "official story"? None come easily to mind....
This is why resolution will never come. Lies and deceptions, both internally and externally, that cannot (or will not) be abandoned. Even when confronted with the inconsistencies, these idiotic stereotypes hold on. And with bbk's of the world sucking it up from both sides and regurgitating hatred and believing that THEY are in any way DIFFERENT, there is no doubt why the politicians have come to rely so heavy on doling out this (racist) crap...
Because, it obviously WORKS. And, in the end, it is more valuable to have that tool to manipulate your people, than to actually try to identify (let alone resolve) the real problems.
Best regards,
F.
Bin Laden’s main objective (and the reason for 9/11) was to drive western power and influence out of the middle east. And he's using a twisted version of Islamic religion to exercise his main objective. Being a product of an Islamo-fascist sect from the Saudi state, Bin Laden practises intolerance and aggression against the west through an extremist stance of fanaticism. Through this fanaticism he tries to encourage all Muslims to rise up against western infidels. With such a stance, the greatest victory to his cause would be an actual holy war of hate between the Islamic east and the Judeo-Christian west. Bin Laden would love to see a divided world with a discredited US at the helm. Is that what he's getting?
Thankfully most traditional Muslims see Bin Laden as simply a murderer and leader of a dangerous terrorist group; a close-minded man far removed from the true teachings of the Muslim faith. And rightly so. Bin Laden does not promote pluralism and coexistance as ordinary Muslims do. And many western nations also understand the difference between the fanatical beliefs of Bin Laden and the more conservative beliefs of millions of ordinary Muslims. Most western nations see Bin Laden and his network as international criminals and not an actual representation of all Islamic mentality.
But then there's the Bush administration and their pre-emptive attack on Iraq. Self-defence no longer stands as the official reason for the war. There were no WMD, no Bin Laden, and no potential global threat. The US has attracted a war on terrorism where there was none before. So why is the US fighting there? Are they there because they're losing control of their western power and influence in the middle east, the very reason Bin Laden wanted an east vs west war to begin with? That means, by all appearances, the US doesn't hold the same values of coexistance & pluralism that other nations do. Instead a fanatical US has brought the west to war with Islam. --right into Bin Laden's hand.
