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Vaccine passports not an infringement on human rights: OHRC

bver_hunter

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If it was a Neo Nazi state (oh wait we can't compare sunny weather Florida to the killing of innocent people) then De Santis would've locked everything down and arrested those that didn't comply.
De Santis does not give a shit about the Health of the Florida residents. The vaccine passports are designed to protect the well being of the clients and employees of venues like restaurants bars and other public spaces. His fines on businesses that try to enforce these passports are beyond ridiculousness. The Regulations that are in line with The Federal Guidelines are in plain language......COMMON SENSE. After all we have a Province like Alberta that are regretting not enforcing such restrictions on the dumb anti-vaxxers who have caused this 4th wave to get out of hand!!
 

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And look who's ahead of them, NY State with 5th highest death rate despite having mandatory masks for many months and some of the toughest restrictions in the country

Yes, it's amazing how both population density and governmental neglect can increase death rates.
 

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My reality doesn't include living in fear...
Either do I. I'm quite happy socializing with vaccinated people.

But you sure do spend a lot of time living in fear that Canada will become like your childhood home.
 

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De Santis does not give a shit about the Health of the Florida residents. The vaccine passports are designed to protect the well being of the clients and employees of venues like restaurants bars and other public spaces. His fines on businesses that try to enforce these passports are beyond ridiculousness. The Regulations that are in line with The Federal Guidelines are in plain language......COMMON SENSE. After all we have a Province like Alberta that are regretting not enforcing such restrictions on the dumb anti-vaxxers who have caused this 4th wave to get out of hand!!
Y then explain Australia and New Zealand now. Even New Zealand is doing away with all these restrictions and you know why. cause even they saw them as being useless.
 

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Y then explain Australia and New Zealand now. Even New Zealand is doing away with all these restrictions and you know why. cause even they saw them as being useless.
Are you aware of the deaths in New Zealand from Covid-19? Yes just 27, and that is because of the very strict restrictions when they nipped it in the bud. How does that compare with Florida or Alberta?? That is why New Zealand are the envy of the world with relation to the handling of this Pandemic. Now they cannot eliminate it 100% due to their vaccine administration not being as high as Canada's 80%+ of those eligible. But they are ramping up the vaccinations. However, Alberta's Fourth Wave was not even acknowledged by Kenney, until push came to shove. See what happens when you just go ballistic with reopening the economy rather than taking a more cautious route!!
 
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These arguments are getting tedious. Aside from a couple of jurisdictions in the US South - FL and TX - where the governors are clearly angling for the presidential nomination in 2024, all governments are now going with vaxx mandates. The US armed forces are as well. This is based on real science, not FB science. Compliance w vaxx mandates is about 99%.

The mods should be closing these threads down. They are getting repetitive.

If the science behind the vaxx mandates and lockdown was as nonsensical as the anti vaxxers claim, the medical community would be in an uproar and the opposition parties would be screaming their asses off. NONE of this is happening. A couple of rogue docs here and there are anti vaxx, but they lose their jobs and get shut down by their professional bodies.

The quick answer to your statistical chart is probably that GB is over 80% vaxxed. So - yes - more vaxxed people end up in hospital from COVID than unvaxxed based simply on overwhelming #'s. Some people are going to get ill depsite being vaxxed because of pre existing vulnerabilities. But really, I don't want to put in the time and effort to look at it carefully.

With you people, there will always be a study that can be framed to show 90% of the world's doctors "don't understand the science" and "stifle debate". And it's getting just silly.
 

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These arguments are getting tedious. Aside from a couple of jurisdictions in the US South - FL and TX - where the governors are clearly angling for the presidential nomination in 2024, all governments are now going with vaxx mandates. The US armed forces are as well. This is based on real science, not FB science. Compliance w vaxx mandates is about 99%.

The mods should be closing these threads down. They are getting repetitive.

If the science behind the vaxx mandates and lockdown was as nonsensical as the anti vaxxers claim, the medical community would be in an uproar and the opposition parties would be screaming their asses off. NONE of this is happening. A couple of rogue docs here and there are anti vaxx, but they lose their jobs and get shut down by their professional bodies.

The quick answer to your statistical chart is probably that GB is over 80% vaxxed. So - yes - more vaxxed people end up in hospital from COVID than unvaxxed based simply on overwhelming #'s. Some people are going to get ill depsite being vaxxed because of pre existing vulnerabilities. But really, I don't want to put in the time and effort to look at it carefully.

With you people, there will always be a study that can be framed to show 90% of the world's doctors "don't understand the science" and "stifle debate". And it's getting just silly.
Evolving science, remember?

 

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Evolving science, remember?


Despite the increase in cases, Dr McNamara said that, thanks to vaccination, the vast majority of infection were mild and it was only in “rare circumstances” that serious illness resulted.

The bullshit and nonsense continues from the same old amigos.

GET your shots, you lost! Deal with it and stop being big whiny babies.
 
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Evolving science, remember?

'Evolving science' is when the medical and public health community analyses this data and develops their strategies and resources further, not when a bunch of crackpots and fanatics on the internet start posting the same old arguments from 2 months ago.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Despite the increase in cases, Dr McNamara said that, thanks to vaccination, the vast majority of infection were mild and it was only in “rare circumstances” that serious illness resulted.

The bullshit and nonsense continues from the same old amigos.

GET your shots, you lost! Deal with it and stop being big whiny babies
Why not follow the Italian model??
Vaccine passports the vaxxed, but also for those who have natural immunity??
 
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squeezer

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Why not follow the Italian model??
Vaccine passports the vaxxed, but also for those who have natural immunity??
They say one-shot for folks who really did have COVID is recommended not folks that think they had COVID. If they implemented this, I'd say it would be a good compromise.
 

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'Evolving science' is when the medical and public health community analyses this data and develops their strategies and resources further, not when a bunch of crackpots and fanatics on the internet start posting the same old arguments from 2 months ago.
I've noticed that you evaded the numbers. Strange, as we approach Covid from the case number angle(ie outbreaks) and not the severity. Oh BTW, how many of those infected had have covid and ALSO have natural immunity? Don't you think that fact has to do with the severity propaganda? That's right, you don't have that data.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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They say one-shot for folks who really did have COVID is recommended
Recommended, but they havent done studies on this yet, so at this point its just theory.

What is known however is that people who have been naturally infected with Covid have superior immunity than the vaxxed

 

mandrill

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I've noticed that you evaded the numbers. Strange, as we approach Covid from the case number angle(ie outbreaks) and not the severity. Oh BTW, how many of those infected had have covid and ALSO have natural immunity? Don't you think that fact has to do with the severity propaganda? That's right, you don't have that data.
JC, at this point people are getting bored of your arguments. It's clear that the medical community, the public health community and the governments - outside the Red State Belt - are not buying any of you Facebook "research". Now I could take 15 minutes and look carefully at what you posted and then demolish it - like I did with your nonsense about "Biden's Border Crisis".

How am I so confident?.... Well, if what you and your buddies post was credible, then the entire medical community would be backing you up. And they're not.

So there's a flaw there and it would be easy to spot.

But you've already lost. Outside TX and FL - where DeSantis and Abbott are positioning to get nommed by hardcore GOP members in 2024 - no one in any official position buys your crap. It's over.

Here are some suggestions for other topics that - we both know!!! - you really love to post about:

1. Ashli Babbit
2. Cancel Culture
3. Hunter Biden's laptop
4. January 6 was NOT a riot, it was a tour group.

Start posting about one of these topics again. It will be a refreshing breath of fresh air.
 

jcpro

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JC, at this point people are getting bored of your arguments. It's clear that the medical community, the public health community and the governments - outside the Red State Belt - are not buying any of you Facebook "research". Now I could take 15 minutes and look carefully at what you posted and then demolish it - like I did with your nonsense about "Biden's Border Crisis".

How am I so confident?.... Well, if what you and your buddies post was credible, then the entire medical community would be backing you up. And they're not.

So there's a flaw there and it would be easy to spot.

But you've already lost. Outside TX and FL - where DeSantis and Abbott are positioning to get nommed by hardcore GOP members in 2024 - no one in any official position buys your crap. It's over.

Here are some suggestions for other topics that - we both know!!! - you really love to post about:

1. Ashli Babbit
2. Cancel Culture
3. Hunter Biden's laptop
4. January 6 was NOT a riot, it was a tour group.

Start posting about one of these topics again. It will be a refreshing breath of fresh air.
I'm not on Facebook and you still haven't addressed the numbers.
 
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