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Vaccine mandates for travel purely political. Courts prove it.

JohnLarue

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It prevented millions ending up hospitalized.
none of the people who decided on the travel restrictions were medical professionals, so they were not qualified to rationalize their political motivations with hospitalization projections.
And we shall never truly know what the restrictions prevented or did not prevent

But your mind is not capable of admitting that
 

jalimon

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none of the people who decided on the travel restrictions were medical professionals, so they were not qualified to rationalize their political motivations with hospitalization projections.
And we shall never truly know what the restrictions prevented or did not prevent

But your mind is not capable of admitting that
You got me wrong. I agree with you that travel restriction based on vaccination do not make sense scientifically.

It's a public health matter.

"And we shall never truly know what the restrictions prevented or did not prevent"

Again exactly true. That's why face upon not knowing public health makes their decision on what seems safer. That's kind of why they exist dude.
 

squeezer

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You got me wrong. I agree with you that travel restriction based on vaccination do not make sense scientifically.

It's a public health matter.

"And we shall never truly know what the restrictions prevented or did not prevent"

Again exactly true. That's why face upon not knowing public health makes their decision on what seems safer. That's kind of why they exist dude.
Imagine that, Public health creating rules or mandates to deal with PUBLIC HEALTH. This is tyranny, a travesty , a complete Hitler Nazi move dammit!!!!!!
 

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Most amusing is all these people bitching about travel restrictions under Trudeau are the same people who bitched that Trudeau failed us by not sealing our borders when covid first broke out.
 
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JohnLarue

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You got me wrong. I agree with you that travel restriction based on vaccination do not make sense scientifically.

It's a public health matter.

"And we shall never truly know what the restrictions prevented or did not prevent"

Again exactly true. That's why face upon not knowing public health makes their decision on what seems safer. That's kind of why they exist dude.
"not knowing" is a terrible position from which to make decisions,
Do you think perhaps the fact none of the decision makers was a medical professional might have contributed to their collective ignorance / 'not knowing" ?


It was a political motivated decision

A similar pattern is likely to playout when the invoking of emergencies act goes to the courts & the liberals have to release documents & justify their overreach
 
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ROTFLMAO!!

Right-Wing Sources are Spreading Misinformation About a Court Battle Over Canada’s Vaccine Mandates
Original court documents tell a different story than the one contained in a viral blog post from a convoy-friendly National Post columnist

 

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ROTFLMAO!!

Right-Wing Sources are Spreading Misinformation About a Court Battle Over Canada’s Vaccine Mandates
Original court documents tell a different story than the one contained in a viral blog post from a convoy-friendly National Post columnist

Yup, the typical nonsense bullshit and twat spin.
 
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This Subramanya individual was previously caught out bullshitting during the FreeDumb Convoy protests. She how she changed her story:

A false claim about the government and hotels
Rupa Subramanya, who has more than 128,000 Twitter followers and writes columns for the National Post, a conservative Canadian newspaper, tweeted on Sunday: “I’ve heard from so many today that some Ottawa hotels have been instructed by the city/feds not to give out rooms to the protestors. The Marriott downtown apparently is empty but evidently all the rooms booked. Someone should really investigate if this is true.”

Facts First: Regardless of what Subramanya may have been told, the claims she amplified were not true. The employees who took CNN’s calls at the downtown Marriott and five other Ottawa hotels on Monday said their establishments had not been given any anti-protester instruction by any government; Patrick Champagne, press secretary to Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson, told CNN that the claim “is categorically false”; Alexander Cohen, spokesperson for Canadian Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino, called the claim “ludicrous” and said that “no one from the federal government has done that”; Steve Bell, president of the Ottawa Gatineau Hotel Association, said that “to my knowledge there is no truth to this rumour.” As for the Marriott in particular, it had rooms available at the time of Subramanya’s tweet on Sunday evening and again on Monday evening.

When CNN told Subramanya that the claims in her tweet seemed to be false, she said she was glad we had looked into the matter. She insisted she had herself made “no claim” and had merely issued a “call for help” for journalists to look into what she had been hearing from protesters, since “frankly I’ve been working round the clock talking to people on the ground and so I haven’t had the time or the opportunity to vet this claim.”

The “mainstream Canadian media should be fact checking these and debunking them if they’re false,” Subramanya said, though she herself writes for a national Canadian newspaper.
 
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Jubee

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Name some of those "lies", pal:unsure:...
The COVID death numbers, not addressing dissenting points of view from professionals who are experts in the field (especially Dr. Robert Malone - one of the pioneers of mRNA).
Fauci's past comments about SARS, vaccine effectiveness, viruses in general as well as mask effectiveness.
Canadian outlets saying the Freedom Convoy was racist by nature, more lies.

And "pal"? lol

If you're angry that you got the shot, sorry you didn't think things through and couldn't do some deductive reasoning on your own.
Here's some news for you though.



I'm waiting for any of the major "news" outlets to come out and say that they overstated numbers as well, if they haven't already.
 
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Frankfooter

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If you're angry that you got the shot, sorry you didn't think things through and couldn't do some deductive reasoning on your own.
Here's some news for you though.
I don't know anyone who got the shot who is angry about it.
We can all just live our lives knowing that even if we get it we won't end up in the hospital.
And we can work and go wherever we want.
 

jalimon

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"not knowing" is a terrible position from which to make decisions,
Do you think perhaps the fact none of the decision makers was a medical professional might have contributed to their collective ignorance / 'not knowing" ?


It was a political motivated decision

A similar pattern is likely to playout when the invoking of emergencies act goes to the courts & the liberals have to release documents & justify their overreach
"Do you think perhaps the fact none of the decision makers was a medical professional might have contributed to their collective ignorance / 'not knowing" ?"

That is absolutely not true. Many public health servant are medical professor and researcher. Their top chief of staff are doctors.

The thing is a researcher has the humility to say 'I do not know'. That's part of the fact why they became a researcher. A virus is complicated. A new virus is very complicated.

They did'nt know the full impact of this virus in March 2020.

Italy played a big role into our decision. It is well known in the medical field that Italy has one of the best healtcare system in the world. Yet in March 2020 some of it collapse in heavy hited covid aria.
 
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JohnLarue

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"Do you think perhaps the fact none of the decision makers was a medical professional might have contributed to their collective ignorance / 'not knowing" ?"

That is absolutely not true. Many public health servant are medical professor and researcher. Their top chief of staff are doctors
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the issue is none of the decision makers were medical professionals
It was a political motivated decision
 

squeezer

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the issue is none of the decision makers were medical professionals
It was a political motivated decision

So I guess every country that has a vaccine mandate for traveling is following the same political plan or does this apply just to Justin?
 

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the issue is none of the decision makers were medical professionals
It was a political motivated decision
They were doctors and researchers. Only it's our politician leader that had to announce their decision to the population. Hence why you think it was politically motivated. It was not.
 

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ROTFLMAO!!

Right-Wing Sources are Spreading Misinformation About a Court Battle Over Canada’s Vaccine Mandates
Original court documents tell a different story than the one contained in a viral blog post from a convoy-friendly National Post columnist

At least give the Sun credit for linking to the documents though. All 1300 or so pages.
I don't think the original blog post even did that.
The assumption is always that people won't look up the full context of any quotes they pull and they are right about that most of the time.
 

bver_hunter

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At least give the Sun credit for linking to the documents though. All 1300 or so pages.
I don't think the original blog post even did that.
The assumption is always that people won't look up the full context of any quotes they pull and they are right about that most of the time.
Taking out the crucial quotes out of context is always due to politicizing their POVs. Except, that this time the Covid-19 Pandemic is one of the saddest times in History to do so.
This politicization is just from the far right of the spectrum. Shocking when even potential opposition leaders seem to buy it!!
 

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I don't know anyone who got the shot who is angry about it.
We can all just live our lives knowing that even if we get it we won't end up in the hospital.
And we can work and go wherever we want.
Of course assuming there are no side effects. Hopefully not.
 

Jubee

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Not waiting, it's been happening. There were 5 doctors in Toronto alone in the span of a 4 weeks, just a couple of weeks ago
Like I said, it's been happening, just not being reported by the liberal leaning "news" outlets and the conservative leaning "news" outlets.
Better off going to independent sites, twitter accounts, telegram to see and hear what others are saying.


If you're on telegram, so many independent accounts by people who have been affected by the shot or know someone who was, talking about their experiences on video.


CEO of Bayer
 

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Not waiting, it's been happening. There were 5 doctors in Toronto alone in the span of a 4 weeks, just a couple of weeks ago

Like I said, it's been happening, just not being reported by the liberal leaning "news" outlets and the conservative leaning "news" outlets.
Better off going to independent sites, twitter accounts, telegram to see and hear what others are saying.


If you're on telegram, so many independent accounts by people who have been affected by the shot or know someone who was, talking about their experiences on video.


CEO of Bayer
 
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