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It's great when any sources OTHER than the mainstream are "fact checked", it's laughable these days. It simply shows that if you question the narrative it must be wrong.

Regardless, the doctors died and neither side left/right of the "news" questioned their deaths, can't imagine why?

Did you know that the CFO of Reuters is on the Board of Pfizer? No conflict of interest there at all.
I'll just have to assume that that's okay and anything Reuters says about Pfizer is accurate and correct and "fact checkers" won't be needed. 🤡

But 5 Toronto doctors did die within a few weeks of each other. Unsettling stuff, one was a triathlete if I'm not mistaken.

Nothing about the Bayer CEO saying mRNA is infact gene therapy? Too close to home? Many said this wasn't right and it was gene therapy whereas the government and all traditional "news" outlets reported it wasn't.
Here we are though huh?
 
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If the decision was made on proven science that's fine. But it was just made for political points. Justin is just a control freak, no way around it.
Wrong. The author of the opinion piece is cherry picking information to make a political hit. The government had many many experts advising them.

To suggest publickly that the gov't just pulled this out of their ass is beyond reckless. But it did come from Lilley... not a surprise.
 

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Wrong. The author of the opinion piece is cherry picking information to make a political hit. The government had many many experts advising them.

To suggest publickly that the gov't just pulled this out of their ass is beyond reckless. But it did come from Lilley... not a surprise.
Freudian slip?------ "publickly" only to be followed by the word "ass". You keep doing you. One word though, mouthwash.

The government is ALWAYS pulling things out of their ass. As for cherry picking, news outlets are great at that, I can share a plethora of examples.
 

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It's great when any sources OTHER than the mainstream are "fact checked", it's laughable these days. It simply shows that if you question the narrative it must be wrong.

Regardless, the doctors died and neither side left/right of the "news" questioned their deaths, can't imagine why?

Did you know that the CFO of Reuters is on the Board of Pfizer? No conflict of interest there at all.
I'll just have to assume that that's okay and anything Reuters says about Pfizer is accurate and correct and "fact checkers" won't be needed. 🤡

But 5 Toronto doctors did die within a few weeks of each other. Unsettling stuff, one was a triathlete if I'm not mistaken.

Nothing about the Bayer CEO saying mRNA is infact gene therapy? Too close to home? Many said this wasn't right and it was gene therapy whereas the government and all traditional "news" outlets reported it wasn't.
Here we are though huh?
Here’s a quick fact check and of course it was a pile of garbage
https://www.techarp.com/facts/5-doctors-die-booster-dose/?amp=1

I think now is a good moment to use the ignore button and enjoy peace and quite that only cancel culture can bring :)
 

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Freudian slip?------ "publickly" only to be followed by the word "ass". You keep doing you. One word though, mouthwash.

The government is ALWAYS pulling things out of their ass. As for cherry picking, news outlets are great at that, I can share a plethora of examples.
We can all find examples of cherrying picking in the media. Should we be bringing cherry picked articles as "scientific proof" though. The fact remains, the government has many professionals in their employment. That part is not really up for debate, which is why it was overlooked.


Now... the personal insults. Noted. Don't make a spelling mistake on the internet as it's the grammar nazi's only way to win.
 

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We can all find examples of cherrying picking in the media. Should we be bringing cherry picked articles as "scientific proof" though. The fact remains, the government has many professionals in their employment. That part is not really up for debate, which is why it was overlooked.


Now... the personal insults. Noted. Don't make a spelling mistake on the internet as it's the grammar nazi's only way to win.
I thought it was a great Freudian slip on your part, not about "winning" some invisible trophy.
As for government having professionals, well, we do have a drama teacher with a great name in office, not that I like anyone on the "other side" of the aisle either.
Then we had Patty Hajdu, a graphics designer who was then given the position of Minister of Health. 🤡

I'm trying to remember if it was the federal or provincial level, but one of the top "docs" had some personal ties or big investments with Pfizer or some other pharmaceutical, rather it was their husband that did.

And you have Doug Ford who has 3-4 people working for him who were all former Pfizer sales people. I'll try to find the link on that one as well.
So sure, plenty of "professionals" if you use that definition very loosely.
 

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Here’s a quick fact check and of course it was a pile of garbage
https://www.techarp.com/facts/5-doctors-die-booster-dose/?amp=1

I think now is a good moment to use the ignore button and enjoy peace and quite that only cancel culture can bring :)
Hit a nerve, too close to home, understandable.
Btw, the CDC tells its citizens to continue on with their lives as usual, nothing to worry about. Plenty of others said the same for the past 2 years, others cowered in fear because of what their TV was telling them. lol

Funny site that techarp, makes some really crazy headlines in some stories only to address a few serious ones to make them look silly because of the other stuff they talk about.

Still nothing?
 

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I thought it was a great Freudian slip on your part, not about "winning" some invisible trophy.
As for government having professionals, well, we do have a drama teacher with a great name in office, not that I like anyone on the "other side" of the aisle either.
Then we had Patty Hajdu, a graphics designer who was then given the position of Minister of Health. 🤡

I'm trying to remember if it was the federal or provincial level, but one of the top "docs" had some personal ties or big investments with Pfizer or some other pharmaceutical, rather it was their husband that did.

And you have Doug Ford who has 3-4 people working for him who were all former Pfizer sales people. I'll try to find the link on that one as well.
So sure, plenty of "professionals" if you use that definition very loosely.
Point taken.

Bit it's not uncommon for the government to hire professionals from specific feilds. If you need medical professionals, you hire the people in that industry.

Same with insurance oversight... you get what I am saying.

And yes... some of the people will do shady things. After all, these people come from our population... and the population is rather shady.
 

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Point taken.

Bit it's not uncommon for the government to hire professionals from specific feilds. If you need medical professionals, you hire the people in that industry.

Same with insurance oversight... you get what I am saying.

And yes... some of the people will do shady things. After all, these people come from our population... and the population is rather shady.
Yep and while some were saying the shot was important, others were saying our immune systems were good enough to handle what was going on, case in point,

Many had compromised immune systems, but the majority didn't.

Shady? PLENTY of those around in government, again, on both sides of the aisle. They're not there for us, they're there for themselves and doing the will of corporations.
 

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It's great when any sources OTHER than the mainstream are "fact checked", it's laughable these days. It simply shows that if you question the narrative it must be wrong.

Regardless, the doctors died and neither side left/right of the "news" questioned their deaths, can't imagine why?

Did you know that the CFO of Reuters is on the Board of Pfizer? No conflict of interest there at all.
I'll just have to assume that that's okay and anything Reuters says about Pfizer is accurate and correct and "fact checkers" won't be needed. 🤡

But 5 Toronto doctors did die within a few weeks of each other. Unsettling stuff, one was a triathlete if I'm not mistaken.

Nothing about the Bayer CEO saying mRNA is infact gene therapy? Too close to home? Many said this wasn't right and it was gene therapy whereas the government and all traditional "news" outlets reported it wasn't.
Here we are though huh?

Gene therapy? Is that supposed to scare me?



Gene therapy is a medical field which focuses on the genetic modification of cells to produce a therapeutic effect[1] or the treatment of disease by repairing or reconstructing defective genetic material.[2] The first attempt at modifying human DNA was performed in 1980, by Martin Cline, but the first successful nuclear gene transfer in humans, approved by the National Institutes of Health, was performed in May 1989.[3] The first therapeutic use of gene transfer as well as the first direct insertion of human DNA into the nuclear genome was performed by French Anderson in a trial starting in September 1990. It is thought to be able to cure many genetic disorders or treat them over time.

Between 1989 and December 2018, over 2,900 clinical trials were conducted, with more than half of them in phase I.[4] As of 2017, Spark Therapeutics' Luxturna (RPE65 mutation-induced blindness) and Novartis' Kymriah (Chimeric antigen receptor T cell therapy) are the FDA's first approved gene therapies to enter the market. Since that time, drugs such as Novartis' Zolgensma and Alnylam's Patisiran have also received FDA approval, in addition to other companies' gene therapy drugs. Most of these approaches utilize adeno-associated viruses (AAVs) and lentiviruses for performing gene insertions, in vivo and ex vivo, respectively. AAVs are characterized by stabilizing the viral capsid, lower immunogenicity, ability to transduce both dividing and nondividing cells, the potential to integrate site specifically and to achieve long-term expression in the in-vivo treatment. (Gorell et al. 2014) ASO / siRNA approaches such as those conducted by Alnylam and Ionis Pharmaceuticals require non-viral delivery systems, and utilize alternative mechanisms for trafficking to liver cells by way of GalNAc transporters.

The concept of gene therapy is to fix a genetic problem at its source. If, for instance, a mutation in a certain gene causes the production of a dysfunctional protein resulting (usually recessively) in an inherited disease, gene therapy could be used to deliver a copy of this gene that does not contain the deleterious mutation and thereby produces a functional protein. This strategy is referred to as gene replacement therapy and is employed to treat inherited retinal diseases.[5][6]

While the concept of gene replacement therapy is mostly suitable for recessive diseases, novel strategies have been suggested that are capable of also treating conditions with a dominant pattern of inheritance.

The introduction of CRISPR gene editing has opened new doors for its application and utilization in gene therapy, as instead of pure replacement of a gene, it enables correction of the particular genetic defect.[7] Solutions to medical hurdles, such as the eradication of latent human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) reservoirs and correction of the mutation that causes sickle cell disease, may be available as a therapeutic option in the future.[8][9][10]
Prosthetic gene therapy aims to enable cells of the body to take over functions they physiologically do not carry out. One example is the so-called vision restoration gene therapy, that aims to restore vision in patients with end-stage retinal diseases.[11][12] In end-stage retinal diseases, the photoreceptors, as the primary light sensitive cells of the retina are irreversibly lost. By the means of prosthetic gene therapy light sensitive proteins are delivered into the remaining cells of the retina, to render them light sensitive and thereby enable them to signal visual information towards the brain. Clinical trials are ongoing. (NCT02556736, NCT03326336 at clinicaltrials.gov)
Not all medical procedures that introduce alterations to a patient's genetic makeup can be considered gene therapy. Bone marrow transplantation and organ transplants in general have been found to introduce foreign DNA into patients.[13]
 
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Yep and while some were saying the shot was important, others were saying our immune systems were good enough to handle what was going on, case in point,

Many had compromised immune systems, but the majority didn't.

Shady? PLENTY of those around in government, again, on both sides of the aisle. They're not there for us, they're there for themselves and doing the will of corporations.

Yes... over time your immune system learns to deal with bacteria and germs... but, when your body has never seen them before, in a lot cases, it can't. It's like drinking the water in Mexico... I don't care how many push ups you do, how much broccoli you eat, or great you believe your immune system is.... a couple ice cubes in your drink, and you are in for a rough couple days.

Live there long enough, your body can fight it.
 

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Gene therapy? Is that supposed to scare me?



Gene therapy is a medical field which focuses on the genetic modification of cells to produce a therapeutic effect[1] or the treatment of disease by repairing or reconstructing defective genetic material.[2] The first attempt at modifying human DNA was performed in 1980, by Martin Cline, but the first successful nuclear gene transfer in humans, approved by the National Institutes of Health, was performed in May 1989.[3] The first therapeutic use of gene transfer as well as the first direct insertion of human DNA into the nuclear genome was performed by French Anderson in a trial starting in September 1990. It is thought to be able to cure many genetic disorders or treat them over time.
If you're healthy, why mess with your genes?
If you want to be the test subject, go for it.
 

Jubee

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Yes... over time your immune system learns to deal with bacteria and germs... but, when your body has never seen them before, in a lot cases, it can't. It's like drinking the water in Mexico... I don't care how many push ups you do, how much broccoli you eat, or great you believe your immune system is.... a couple ice cubes in your drink, and you are in for a rough couple days.

Live there long enough, your body can fight it.
Right, you're in for a rough couple of days potentially, but if your immune system is healthy and strong, you don't need external things 💉 and pills to fight off the virus.
Getting sick isn't a bad thing, it's exactly what should be happening if it's being attacked. Your body is in a fight to maintain some form of homeostasis, which is what it always does everyday.
 

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Right, you're in for a rough couple of days potentially, but if your immune system is healthy and strong, you don't need external things 💉 and pills to fight off the virus.
Getting sick isn't a bad thing, it's exactly what should be happening if it's being attacked. Your body is in a fight to maintain some form of homeostasis, which is what it always does everyday.
Getting dead is a bad thing...

Be afraid of science then, it don't bother me.
 

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Getting dead is a bad thing...

Be afraid of science then, it don't bother me.
I'm not afraid of it as long as its sound and not marketed through celebrities and pushed onto me (coercion), then I'll have a problem, it's in my nature.
Everyone is different, some like to be told to bend over, others don't.
 

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Right, you're in for a rough couple of days potentially, but if your immune system is healthy and strong, you don't need external things 💉 and pills to fight off the virus.
Getting sick isn't a bad thing, it's exactly what should be happening if it's being attacked. Your body is in a fight to maintain some form of homeostasis, which is what it always does everyday.
So all those people dead from Covid? Just in the rearview?:LOL:...
 

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I'm not afraid of it as long as its sound and not marketed through celebrities and pushed onto me (coercion), then I'll have a problem, it's in my nature.
Everyone is different, some like to be told to bend over, others don't.
Ah, so who told you this, if not from some internet 'celebrity'?
Do you have John Hopkin's type research papers to back this up?
 

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Told me what? That's it's "not sound"?
Just the way things rolled out and how long I was fine without it. Dr. Malone (one of the lead founders in mRNA) and other doctors speaking out against the effectiveness for what this virus was.
Gut instinct + listening to various opinions and then going with what vibed for me.

When I saw Charles Barkley and the biggest idiot on earth Shaq going on TV touting it's effectiveness, that just made me laugh about the whole thing. Then hearing a bunch of other celebrities saying "trust the science". lol
 

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Yeah, you wouldn't want to trust the science when there are youtube folks you can trust instead.
You missed the part where I stated " Just the way things rolled out and how long I was fine without it. Dr. Malone (one of the lead founders in mRNA) and other doctors speaking out against the effectiveness "
Youtube IS A PLATFORM, just like Rumble, just like cnn, abc, fox, cbc, citytv, etc, etc, it's not a source, it's a platform that relays information. It's WHO SPEAKS that matters. 🤦‍♂️
 
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