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WyattEarp

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The giveaway was when Nancy broke the long standing tradition and rejected McCarthy's appointments to the committee. From the get go this was designed as a vehicle to stop Trump from running in 24 and as an election issue. The Dems are not even trying to make this look legitimate and the 100% proof is their latest "witness". It's just like their "impeachments".
It would have seemed more fair if Pelosi worked out a compromise with McCarthy on Republican choices.

Cheney and Kinzinger are Republicans who are Trump critics and were likely not going to be re-elected. Their re-election problems can't all be attributed to Trump.

Oddly, both Cheney and KInzinger also seem to have an affinity for using American military force. That might be incidental to all this, but Butler1000 usually has interesting insights into these issues.
 
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Usually they say they're leaving chief anchor job for a streaming service to spend more time with.their families, but this also works. ROTFLMFAO!!!

Oh just for you, enjoy. Lol 😆

Thanks for posting the article that shows that all those who worked with Hutchinson trust her testimony. Of course that pisses off Brietbart and Fox.

Hutchinson testified under oath. Ornato can do so as well.
 

jcpro

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Am I the only one offended by members throwing around the word "cunt" so liberally?

I might suggest "bitch" instead.
A person offering false testimony fully deserves the worst. We usually jail those who lie under oath. I will happily switch to another name, if you can come up with something equally descriptive. Sorry, "bitch" just doesn't cut it. People who lie under oath are the lowest of the low- lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.
 

WyattEarp

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Don't you understand?
Someone off the record saying that someone else is completely willing to testify (he just hasn't yet, but honest, he is totally willing, trust me) that the person who told her the story she recounted was lying when he told her the story means that everything she said is a hoax!

It's just basic logic, squeezer.
I think basic logic is that Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony is hearsay. I don't think its a stretch to say when stories and accounts are told,and retold they are dramatized and embellished.
 

WyattEarp

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A person offering false testimony fully deserves the worst. We usually jail those who lie under oath. I will happily switch to another name, if you can come up with something equally descriptive. Sorry, "bitch" just doesn't cut it. People who lie under oath are the lowest of the low- lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.
We don't know if Cassidy Hutchinson was told a dramatized version of events. The Committee should not even be speaking with her about what happened in the car. That's not her fault.
 
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We don't know if Cassidy Hutchinson was told a dramatized version of events. The Committee should not even be speaking with her about what happened in the car. That's not her fault.
And yet, there she was...
 

WyattEarp

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The amazing thing to me about the "so-called" January 6 hearings is the way that the media and pundits can so easily forget that the reason that real trials include such practices such as cross examination of witnesses, exclusionary rules of evidence, and right to call responding witnesses is that these practices are ESSENTIAL to any process pretending to be interested in arriving at the truth. Instead, the January 6 hearings are nothing but one side presenting the most slanted witnesses and evidence they can present, and then pronouncing their skewed presentation as "fact". Really shameful and embarassing, considering the number of lawyers sitting on the Committee.

That's why this is nothing more than a Star Chamber proceeding. There is nothing to balance the partisan skew. Ordinary voters may not make such a granular comparison to court proceedings, but they know a dog and pony show when they see one. That's why the vast majority of voters are ignoring this hearing.
Citation needed that "the vast majority of voters are ignoring this hearing".

BTW - you *are* aware it isn't a trial, right?
The fact it isn't a trial means the "defense" has unlimited freedom to offer whatever defense and refutation they like.
They don't even have to stick to evidence.
They have a whole network and social media to mount their defense with.
Dutch.........."It's a job interview!" ;)
 

WyattEarp

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Why not 'asshole', at least its applies to both sexes.
Yeahhh...........but it seems to be normal convention to reserve "asshole" for men.

Hell, even anal connoisseurs say they fucked someone in the ass and leave the word "asshole" strictly as a pejorative.
 

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And yet, there she was...
You are correct in blaming the commission for allowing her to pass on what is hearsay.

But you should not say she lied, unless you know for sure she was not told what she passed on.
 

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I think basic logic is that Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony is hearsay. I don't think its a stretch to say when stories and accounts are told,and retold they are dramatized and embellished.
Only the story told to her by Ornato about rump grabbing the wheel of the Beast was hearsay.
The rest is first hand, eye witness testimony she directly witnessed.
 

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It would have seemed more fair if Pelosi worked out a compromise with McCarthy on Republican choices.

Cheney and Kinzinger are Republicans who are Trump critics and were likely not going to be re-elected. Their re-election problems can't all be attributed to Trump.

Oddly, both Cheney and KInzinger also seem to have an affinity for using American military force. That might be incidental to all this, but Butler1000 usually has interesting insights into these issues.
Cheney is so much in the shitter she is now reaching out to registered Democrats in the state to switch and vote for her.

She is her father's daughter in politics. Nuff said.
 

WyattEarp

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Cheney is so much in the shitter she is now reaching out to registered Democrats in the state to switch and vote for her.

She is her father's daughter in politics. Nuff said.
Kinzinger is a hawkish former military pilot. I think their support for military intervention is incidental to their opposition to Trump. Still, it's kind of bizarre and inappropriate for Pelosi to bypass protocol and install two lame duck Republican opponents of Trump on the committee.
 

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I think basic logic is that Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony is hearsay. I don't think its a stretch to say when stories and accounts are told,and retold they are dramatized and embellished.
Perhaps. Perhaps not....
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WyattEarp

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Only the story told to her by Ornato about rump grabbing the wheel of the Beast was hearsay.
The rest is first hand, eye witness testimony she directly witnessed.
I think you are exaggerating to make your point. You should try to avoid this even if it's your thing.
 

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A person offering false testimony fully deserves the worst. We usually jail those who lie under oath. I will happily switch to another name, if you can come up with something equally descriptive. Sorry, "bitch" just doesn't cut it. People who lie under oath are the lowest of the low- lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean.
You're pretty emotional this morning, JC. Things not going well?
 

WyattEarp

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I didn't pull the phrase "palingenetic ultranationalism" out of nowhere. It's directly tied to some definitions of fascism. (Defining fascism being rather difficult, of course.)
I was teasing your attempt to label people and diminish differing viewpoints as exampled by "palingenetic ultranationalism tied strongly to racial themes and a normalization of violence as a political tool". Of course, saying someone is "woke" is an example of that. However, I don't think Biden's election was a movement of the "woke". That just gives too much credit to so called movements of the left and right.

Having read your posts on MERB for several years, that phrase confirms your affinity for academic political science. I myself think it's hard to stand back, be objective and look at a narrow window of time. I also think academia can be described as generally more liberal and certainly mostly opposed to the Trump phenomenon and Trump voters.

In my opinion, the Trump phenomenon could be described first and foremost as a voter rejection of traditional politics and more likely a distaste for Hillary. I think this is more likely what history will take away from 2016.

Too much was made of the MAGA slogan. All political campaign slogans have quite a bit of puffery. Only hardcore progressives should be offended because it is clearly takes aim at their views. As far as "palingenetic ultranationalists", I'm sure there are some in the bunch.
 

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I think you are exaggerating to make your point. You should try to avoid this even if it's your thing.
No, that was an accurate statement.
Every other important bit of evidence that was reported was reported as eye witness testimony.
Feel free to do some actual research and check it for yourself.
Its not hard.
 

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BTW - you *are* aware it isn't a trial, right?
The fact it isn't a trial means the "defense" has unlimited freedom to offer whatever defense and refutation they like.
Just not at the "hearing" itself, right? And with no cross examination of the other side's witnesses, right?
 
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