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It is disgusting that you keep pretending on Jews driving or living in the west bank are self defense.
Its disgusting that you keep pretending Israelis aren't still colonizing the West Bank by brute military force.

BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) -- The Israeli government unanimously approved plans to legalize an illegal Israeli settlement outpost near the northern occupied West Bank city of Nablus in response to the killing of one of its settlers last month.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said during an Israeli cabinet meeting that the government will legalize the Havat Gilad outpost in order to “allow the continuation of a normal life there.”

According to Israeli news website Ynet, the proposal passed an executive vote, the first stage in the process to legalize the outpost, which was built in contravention of international law.

“The executive decision is mostly declarative in nature, announcing the government's intention to legalize the outpost, but without detailing the manner in which it will be done.” Ynet said.

Ynet added that during the cabinet meeting in which the announcement was made, Netanyahu reportedly said that the decision was “exacting justice” and that it was being made in order “to strengthen the settlement enterprise."

An Israeli settler from the Havat Gilad outpost was killed in a shooting attack while driving near the settlement last month.

Since his death, Israeli forces have embarked on a manhunt in search for the alleged suspect, and have killed two Palestinians and injured several others in the process.
Settlement Watchdog Peace Now released a statement in response to the decision saying that “it would be a grave mistake to officially recognize Havat Gilad, as it would further undermine the possibility of reaching a two-state agreement.”
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779813

Using a death as justification for stealing more land is disgusting, and only justifies more violence.

And I'm glad to hear you are standing against this act.
I officially and formally declare that I hereby call for an end to settlement building.
 

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Its disgusting that you keep pretending Israelis aren't still colonizing the West Bank by brute military force.

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Except for a few illegal settlements that Israel goes through the legal system to remove (at the same slow pace they remove illegally built Palestinian buildings) settlements are not taking more land.

But if that's what you need to believe to support Hamas' specific targetting of civilians because they are Jews then go ahead.

And yes, Hamas has been celebrating because yet another Rabbi was murdered while standing at a bus stop. I'm sure though that you'll be complaining that one of those terrorists was killed in a shootout when Israel dared trying to arrest him.
 

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And I'm glad to hear you are standing against this act.
Yes, I'm against settlement expansion but I am even more against attacking random people simply because of their religion.

Sadly you think murdering random Jews is a reasonable act of "self defense".
 

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I guess you can't read. Those homes are within existing settlements.
I guess you can't read.
I officially and formally declare that I hereby call for an end to settlement building.
You said you were against settlement building but here you are defending it, yet again.
You're not for the two state solution, you're killing it.
Congrats on winning the apartheid state.
 

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Clown.

Nowhere in the article does it say anything about expanding the borders of settlements.
Nowhere in your statement does it say its ok to add more settlements at all, regardless of borders.

I officially and formally declare that I hereby call for an end to settlement building.
You said you were against settlement building but here you are defending it, yet again.
You're not for the two state solution, you're killing it.
Congrats on winning the apartheid state.

You are such a hypocrite.
 

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Nowhere in your statement does it say its ok to add more settlements at all, regardless of borders.



You said you were against settlement building but here you are defending it, yet again.
You're not for the two state solution, you're killing it.
Congrats on winning the apartheid state.

You are such a hypocrite.
Says the guy who justifies terrorism against Jews for being in the West Bank.

And you're right, nowhere did I say it's okay to add population density in settlements because I don;t think it is. You're just upset that I think building houses is less of a crime that the racist terrorism you keep justifying.

Of course what you ignore is this particular discussion started when you complained about Israel "still colonizing by brute force" which is patently untrue.
 

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Says the guy who justifies terrorism against Jews for being in the West Bank.
Its not even worth replying to you if you're just going to keep making bald faced lies like this.

You're supporting apartheid and claiming backing equal rights now is 'justifying terrorism'.
You are the one justifying terrorism by supporting apartheid and the occupation.

Stop backing racism and support equal rights for all races.
 

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Its not even worth replying to yo...
Because you can't.

You've gone to great lengths to claim that Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets and described them all as terrorists while at the same time you deny continued Hamas terrorism.

Stop being racist and criticize the massive majority of Palestinians who reject your ideas, not just Jews.
 

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Because you can't.

You've gone to great lengths to claim that Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets and described them all as terrorists while at the same time you deny continued Hamas terrorism.

Stop being racist and criticize the massive majority of Palestinians who reject your ideas, not just Jews.
You've admitted that settlers that attack Palestinians are terrorists, not civilians.
Attacks by settlers on Palestinian civilians are common, often with the backing of the IDF.

Settler terrorism is now almost a near daily event for Palestinians, do you now think that Palestinians don't have the right to self defence against terrorism?

How do you suggest they tell the difference between settler terrorists and civilian settlers?
How do you suggest Palestinians defend themselves against terrorists?
 

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You've admitted that settlers that attack Palestinians are terrorists, not civilians.
Yes. Why can't you admit that Palestinians who attack Israelis are terrorists?


And I am absolutely astounded that you once again claim all settlers are valid targets because some of them are terrorists. Murdering some guy in his car or stabbing a random guy on the street because you don't like Israel existing is terrorism, plain and simple.

How do you suggest they tell the difference between settler terrorists and civilian settlers?
How do you suggest Palestinians defend themselves against terrorists?
I'm sure you would freak out if I changed it from Israeli to Palestinian.
How do you suggest Israelis tell the difference between Palestinian terrorists and civilian Palestinians?
How do you suggest Israelis defend themselves against terrorists?
 

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How do you suggest they tell the difference between settler terrorists and civilian settlers?
How do you suggest Palestinians defend themselves against terrorists?
p.s. You've just justified every attempt at counter-insurgency no matter how wrong the implementation.
 

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Yes. Why can't you admit that Palestinians who attack Israelis are terrorists?
Why can't you admit that Israel settlers that attack Palestinians are terrorists?
Why do you support Israeli terrorism while whining about Palestinian terrorism?
The stats, reports and numbers say there is way more settler terrorism.
 

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Why can't you admit that Israel settlers that attack Palestinians are terrorists?

What the fuck? On many occasions I've agreed that some settlers are terrorists, most recently two posts above yours.

Sadly your are so morally absent that you continue to pretend there aren't Palestinian terrorists (Hamas) and you continue to make excuses for attacks on random Jews in the West Bank.
 

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What the fuck? On many occasions I've agreed that some settlers are terrorists, most recently two posts above yours.
Great, now you have to tell us how Palestinians can tell the difference from law abiding settlers and terrorist settlers, since the IDF backs both.
Its now a daily event, it appears.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779856

How do you suggest Palestinians protect themselves from settler terrorism, since the IDF supports these acts of terrorism?
 

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Great, now you have to tell us how Palestinians can tell the difference from law abiding settlers and terrorist settlers...
The same way that Israel is expected to tell the difference between Palestinian terrorists and civilians. If you support attacks on all Jews in the West Bank because some small number are terrorists then you would have to support attacks on all Palestinians because some small number are terrorists.

Anyone with even a shred of decency would admit that self defense only applies when someone is actually attacking you but you keep trying to echo Hamas when they say all Jews in the West Bank are legitimate targets.
 

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The same way that Israel is expected to tell the difference between Palestinian terrorists and civilians.
And yet you constantly declare that every Palestinian who protests or is injured by the IDF is a terrorist.
You call all Palestinians terrorists, including the entire population of Gaza.

By your own metrics you are justifying attacks on civilians on both sides, through your own refusal to admit that Israel kills Palestinian civilians.
 
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