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US will be taking name in Jerusalem vote...most dickish admin in history?

basketcase

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I did, I said this is a horrible action and the shooter should be brought to trial....l.
First off, I see you want to avoid criticizing Hamas who committed, praised, and promised more murder.

Second, you are full of shit because you complain when Israel dares to arrest Palestinians.
 

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What you are supporting in Gaza is truly frightening.
Its really quite evil.
Maybe the government in Gaza should spend money on infrastructure instead of building rockets and attack tunnels. All that concrete that Hamas has used building bunkers and tunnels could have been used to make a pretty sizeable water distribution system but obviously Hamas (and you) are more interested in attacking Israel than the welfare of Palestinians.
 

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Maybe the government in Gaza should spend money on infrastructure instead of building rockets and attack tunnels. All that concrete that Hamas has used building bunkers and tunnels could have been used to make a pretty sizeable water distribution system but obviously Hamas (and you) are more interested in attacking Israel than the welfare of Palestinians.
Maybe Israel should end the decade long blockade designed to keep Gaza at near starvation levels.
Maybe Israel should obey the many UN resolutions calling for the end of the occupation.
Maybe Israel should open the Gaza death camp.
 

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Maybe Israel should end the decade long blockade designed to keep Gaza at near starvation levels.
Maybe Israel should obey the many UN resolutions calling for the end of the occupation.
Maybe Israel should open the Gaza death camp.
Maybe Egypt should do the same. No reason to criticize the Egyptians since they're not Jewish.
 

basketcase

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Egypt isn't occupying Gaza.
They should open their borders, its true, but Israel has asked them not to.
Either is Israel. Just like Egypt, they control their own border. Hamas is in charge of Gaza and are the ones to blame for spending their money on terrorism instead of basic infrastructure.
 

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Maybe Israel should end the decade long blockade....
Sure, once Hamas stops terrorism.

There was no blockade until Hamas started using Gaza as a terror base.

p.s. As it is, Israel ships in thousands of truck loads of aid daily.
 

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Either is Israel.
Israel is occupying Gaza.
As stated by the UN.

Israel is entirely responsible for the living conditions, according to the Geneva Conventions, of those in Gaza.
Which means Israel is responsible for the Gaza death camp.


Some describe Gaza as either the world's largest "concentration camp" or "open air prison", while others liken it to the modern-day equivalent of the Warsaw ghetto.

Whatever appropriate analogy you apply to the enclave, that traps two million Palestinians on a slender piece of coastal land along the Egyptian-Israeli border, it's impossible to overstate the level of human misery and suffering that is taking place there today.

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"The magnitude, the deliberateness, the violations of international humanitarian law, the impact on the health, lives, and survival, and the overall conditions warrant the characterisation of a crime against humanity," says Richard Falk, a former UN special rapporteur for human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories.

"This is an increasingly precarious condition. A recent study reports that 46 percent of all Palestinian children in Gaza suffer from acute anaemia. There are reports that the sonic booms associated with Israeli overflights have caused widespread deafness, especially among children. Children need thousands of hearing aids.

"Malnutrition is extremely high in a number of different dimensions and affects 75 percent of Palestinians in Gaza. There are widespread mental disorders, especially among young people ... Over 50 percent of Palestinian children in Gaza under the age of 12 have been found to have no will to live," wrote Falk in 2008.

When I referred to Falk's findings from a decade ago, Dr Naim said things have become "much worse", pointing to the fact that much of Gaza's critical infrastructure was destroyed during Israel's 2014 assault, noting that 20,000 tons of explosive ordinance was dropped on the Strip by Israeli jets and artillery, and that unemployment and poverty have skyrocketed since.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/gaza-situation-catastrophic-1550930209

You are now supporting evil acts.
 

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Israel is occupying Gaza....
Strangest ever occupation. There is only one thing that Israel is doing different than Egypt and that is to deliver thousands of tons of aid daily despite Gaza's leaders trying to destroy Israel.
 

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Says the guy who is desperately trying to avoid discussing his Hamas heroes gunning down a rabbi in his car, celebrating the attack, and promising more.
It was discussed, why do you lie and say that I never responded to this post?
Why are you so fixated on this one act while you ignore every single act committed on Palestinians?
Are you really just another Galsegin?
 

basketcase

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Israel's leaders are destroying Gaza, intentionally and by force....
More of your bullshit. Gaza was a much better place before Hamas took over, used it as a base for terrorism, and spent their people's money on weapons, bunkers, and tunnels, instead of actually helping their people.
 

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Yes, by me.

You still refuse to condemn Hamas for the attack, their celebration, and their promise of more.
It was discussed, are you going to keep with this claim?
If I show you the post where it was discussed, will you apologize and admit you're lying?
 

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More of your bullshit. Gaza was a much better place before Hamas took over, used it as a base for terrorism, and spent their people's money on weapons, bunkers, and tunnels, instead of actually helping their people.
Israel started the illegal blockade after Hamas was democratically elected, and after the US tried to aid a coup against them through Fatah.
So yes, Israel's blockade, which is a war crime of collective punishment, has turned Gaza into a death camp and it did happen after Hamas came to power.

Still doesn't make it any less evil on Israel's behalf.
 

basketcase

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Israel started the illegal blockade after Hamas was democratically elected,
Seems in your hero worship you left out the part where Hamas started terror atatcks on Israel from Gaza.


and after the US tried to aid a coup against them through Fatah.
Holy conspiracy theory batman. Do you ever actually read history or are you too busy trying to promote Hamas?
 

Frankfooter

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Holy conspiracy theory batman. Do you ever actually read history or are you too busy trying to promote Hamas?
Speaking of history and the news, do you only read Israeli sources?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/04/usa.israelandthepalestinians

Too bad you don't support democracy, otherwise you would have accepted that Hamas won a fair democratic election.
And Israel worked to overturn a democratic government because they didn't like it.

Hamas were democratically elected, they've also committed war crimes. Things they share with Netanyahu.
However Netanyahu wins the war crime prizes for apartheid and the Gaza death camp.

Bring on the ICC and charge both sides.
End apartheid.
 

basketcase

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Speaking of history and the news, do you only read Israeli sources?....
Do you realize how easily you lie to try and justify your hateful promotion of Palestinian violence?

And history shows Hamas won the election for the LEGISLATURE while Fatah held the EXECUTIVE branch of government. Hamas held a coup and stole executive power in Gaza which they used to turn Gaza into a terrorist camp instead of bettering conditions for their people. Hamas' democratic mandate also ended almost a decade ago.

BTW. It's funny that you keep harping about Hamas once upon a time being democratically elected but keep criticizing Israel that has regular democratic elections.
 

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Do you realize how easily you lie to try and justify your hateful promotion of Palestinian violence?

And history shows Hamas won the election for the LEGISLATURE while Fatah held the EXECUTIVE branch of government. Hamas held a coup and stole executive power in Gaza which they used to turn Gaza into a terrorist camp instead of bettering conditions for their people. Hamas' democratic mandate also ended almost a decade ago.

BTW. It's funny that you keep harping about Hamas once upon a time being democratically elected but keep criticizing Israel that has regular democratic elections.
Funny that your favoured democracy just kicked out all the Israeli Arab MP's for Pence's speech, isn't it?

Hamas did not lead the coup, Fatah lead the coup against Hamas with the aid of the US.
The US backed the elections until Hamas one, then they got pissed off.

And if we're talking promotion of violence, then you are the guilty party here.
Israelis are way, way more violent, causing way more civilian deaths and destruction of property.
On top of that they are running an apartheid system.

That's way worse then anything you accuse the Palestinians of doing.
 
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