To bad facts disagree with you.
And your continual claims that Palestinians have a right to violence (including against civilians) and Israel has no right to stop them are sickening.
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And your continual claims that Palestinians have a right to violence (including against civilians) and Israel has no right to stop them are sickening.
Your continual lying is sickening.To bad facts disagree with you.
And your continual claims that Palestinians have a right to violence (including against civilians) and Israel has no right to stop them are sickening.
Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupation.
They do not have a right to violence against civilians.
Israelis do not have a right to violence against civilians and have a duty to treat their occupied people fairly.
Not to mention a duty to obey UN resolutions and end the occupation and shut down the death camp.
So you repeat your claim that Palestinians have a right to be violent and Israel has no right to stop violence. And judging by your repeated attempts to claim Jews in the West Bank aren't civilians, I'm willing to stick you my claims.Your continual lying is sickening.
Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupation.
They do not have a right to violence against civilians.
Israelis do not have a right to violence against civilians and have a duty to treat their occupied people fairly.
Not to mention a duty to obey UN resolutions and end the occupation and shut down the death camp.
Palestinians constantly attack Jews for the crime of being Jews and you never seem to criticize them for it, even when it is your Hamas heroes who do it.
According to the stats, Israelis are the ones doing most of the attacking and the killing.So you repeat your claim that Palestinians have a right to be violent and Israel has no right to stop violence. And judging by your repeated attempts to claim Jews in the West Bank aren't civilians, I'm willing to stick you my claims.
Palestinians constantly attack Jews for the crime of being Jews and you never seem to criticize them for it, even when it is your Hamas heroes who do it.
Yet you continue to blame Palestinians for Israelis being way more violent.
And your only answer is that Palestinians should stop defending themselves so Israelis don't have to kill them as often.
Such is the life of the defender of apartheid.
Just like Phil, who says Israel is justified to use apartheid and 'whatever else' to 'defend' themselves while they continue to colonize Palestine.
Again you are trying to claim that Israel isn't allowed to act against violent Palestinians or Palestinian terrorists. Even the most left wing sources admit that the vast majority of Palestinian dead in the past few years were killed in the act of violence.According to the stats, Israelis are the ones doing most of the attacking and the killing....
Meanwhile the vast majority of Jews killed in that time were killed simply because they were Jews. The fact that you refuse to recognize the difference shows you are not even close to having morals.
Disgusting justification for terrorism and violence coming from a guy who pretends he's pro-peace. Defence applies when someone is actually attacking you, not because a Jew is near you....
And your only answer is that Palestinians should stop defending themselves so Israelis don't have to kill them as often.
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Yes, Palestinians are defending themselves because they are in Palestine and its illegally occupied by a foreign Israeli army.Disgusting justification for terrorism and violence coming from a guy who pretends he's pro-peace. Defence applies when someone is actually attacking you, not because a Jew is near you.
Israelis are attacking because they are actively trying to colonize or 'settle' Palestinian land by military force.
So Palestinians defend and Israelis attack.
Its pretty clear.
What you post is pretty warped. What was that you were saying about historic revisionism?Yes, Palestinians are defending themselves because they are in Palestine and its illegally occupied by a foreign Israeli army.
Israelis are attacking because they are actively trying to colonize or 'settle' Palestinian land by military force.
So Palestinians defend and Israelis attack.
Its pretty clear.
Unless you went to the same law school as the Klan, attacking people because you don't want Jews near you does not qualify as self defence.
Are you calling the occupying army, the IDF, the one that's colonizing Palestine with settlements 'the Jews'?What you post is pretty warped. What was that you were saying about historic revisionism?
Unless you went to the same law school as the Klan, attacking people because you don't want Jews near you does not qualify as self defence.
I thought you said Israel was a democracy and not representing one race, but here you are telling us that the people attacking and taking over Palestine are of one race.
Sounds like you think Israel only represents one people.
That really makes it sound like an apartheid country.
That makes it sound like you are supporting one race attacking and taking over the homes of another race.
That's pretty disgusting.
Bring in the ICC, its time to fight for equal rights.
Its time to end apartheid.
It is 100% clear that the attacks on Jewish civilians in the West Bank are simply because they are Jews in the West Bank, just like it's 100% clear you are looking for excuses to justify attacks on Israelis despite your hypothetical support of peace.Are you calling the occupying army, the IDF, the one that's colonizing Palestine with settlements 'the Jews'?....
Those Palestinians involved in terrorism are the racist ones because it is clear they don't target Arab Israelis, only the Jews. And of course the whole issue since the start has been the Arab leadership refusing to accept Jews as neighbours.
But keep on pretending that if a Jew is in the West Bank they are a valid target.
p.s. Do you not realize that if we accept your stance that a few Jewish terrorists makes all Jews valid targets then you would also have to support attacks on all Palestinians because some are terrorists? I would never accept that standard for either group while your hypocritical attempts to apply it to only one side is disgusting.
Are you trying to claim that Palestinian defence against the Israeli occupation of their country and land is because of race and not because they are occupying their land and forcing them to live under apartheid?It is 100% clear that the attacks on Jewish civilians in the West Bank are simply because they are Jews in the West Bank, just like it's 100% clear you are looking for excuses to justify attacks on Israelis despite your hypothetical support of peace.
That's a really stupid argument, as it bases its claim on the Israeli occupation being racist, or apartheid.
End the occupation, as the UN SC has told Israel.
That's how you end the attacks, you get out of the land you are illegally occupying, regardless of what race you are.
What I'm trying to do is get you to apply the same standards, based on international law and human rights, to both sides.p.s. Do you not realize that if we accept your stance that a few Jewish terrorists makes all Jews valid targets then you would also have to support attacks on all Palestinians because some are terrorists? I would never accept that standard for either group while your hypocritical attempts to apply it to only one side is disgusting.
So no, of course Palestinians shouldn't attack all Jewish Israelis because they might be terrorists, just as Israel should stop shooting and killing so many Palestinians and then claiming they might be terrorists.
You need to stop basing your application of law on race.
Stop supporting apartheid policy.
By the way, I find it hilarious that you are now calling the South African government either 'liars' or unknowledgeable about apartheid.
Its so pathetic that this is your only defence against the South African government stating that Israel is the only apartheid country in the world.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...l-is-only-apartheid-state-in-the-world-today/
Yes. Much of it is specifically over the issue of sharing land with Jews. Arab Israelis don't get targeted by Palestinian terrorists the way that Jewish Israelis do so Israeli citizenship is clearly not the issue.Are you trying to claim that Palestinian defence against the Israeli occupation of their country and land is because of race...
By saying that Palestinians have the right to commit violence and that Jews in the West Bank are valid targets because a few of them are terrorist? Sure. That sounds like even handed application of law.What I'm trying to do is get you to apply the same standards, based on international law and human rights, to both sides....
I don't support violence as a solution the way you do. I support Tamil rights in Sri Lanka but am disgusted by the LTTE. I support Tibetan calls for independence but don't support violence against China. I support Kurdish rights but reject the actions of the PKK. The Palestinians have a reasonable expectation for their own state but that doesn't mean you have to support the violence that groups like Hamas use and encourage.
If it was sharing it wouldn't be a problem.Yes. Much of it is specifically over the issue of sharing land with Jews.
But we are talking about a 50 year long military occupation and apartheid regime.
That's the opposite of 'sharing'.
You support Israeli violence like the 2014 slaughter of Gaza that is presently being investigated by the ICC.I don't support violence as a solution the way you do.
You support the continuing killing of Palestinians who you call 'violent' or 'terrorists'.
You are supporting Israel, which is the far, far more violent side.
And look at you trying to change the topic from your outright support for Palestinian violence by creating your usual lies.You support Israeli violence like the 2014 slaughter of Gaza that is presently being investigated by the ICC.
You support the continuing killing of Palestinians who you call 'violent' or 'terrorists'.
You are supporting Israel, which is the far, far more violent side.
Again, you complain about Palestinian violence while ignoring the fact that Israelis are way, way more violent.And look at you trying to change the topic from your outright support for Palestinian violence by creating your usual lies.
They kill more civilians while running an apartheid occupation.
Why are you so obsessed about Palestinian violence when the Israeli occupation and apartheid is the cause of most of the violence?
Yes, there are more Palestinians are killed while attempting attacks than Jews killed by those attacks. Sadly your only complaints are when Palestinian attacks are stopped. The UN and even rights organizations admit that most Palestinians killed by Israel since then paste Gaza war were killed were the attackers. As I said before, if Palestinians stop attacking, Israel willmhave no need to stop the attackers?Again, you complain about Palestinian violence while ignoring the fact that Israelis are way, way more violent.
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At least this is one place you are consistent with your claims that all Jews are valid targets because some small number are terrorists.
If Palestinians stopped defending their homes, you mean.Yes, there are more Palestinians are killed while attempting attacks than Jews killed by those attacks. Sadly your only complaints are when Palestinian attacks are stopped. The UN and even rights organizations admit that most Palestinians killed by Israel since then paste Gaza war were killed were the attackers. As I said before, if Palestinians stop attacking, Israel willmhave no need to stop the attackers?
At least this is one place you are consistent with your claims that all Jews are valid targets because some small number are terrorists.
Israeli terrorism.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779799
Israeli attacking fishermen.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779798
Israel killing another teenager.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779793
Settlers actively trying to take more of Palestine.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779795
Israeli terrorism.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=779784
That's what's on the news.
It is disgusting that you keep pretending on Jews driving or living in the west bank are self defense.If Palestinians stopped defending their homes, you mean.
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