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US supreme court rules Trump has ‘absolute immunity’ for official acts

jalimon

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First the debacle at the debate and now this. Two serious setbacks within days. Sure, we are entitled to fulminate. But given the performance of this USSC to date, and ditto POTUS,
did we really, really, really, expect anything different?
Well said. The US deserves this as its what they want.

Is that why Zuckerberg is building himself a bunker, or many other billionaires buying private yacht or island.

They know the US will be unliveable in a few years.
 

Leimonis

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At this point I want Biden to announce that he decided to organize some Gestapo squads and put Hunter in charge if it.
 

mandrill

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It's actually not a bad decision, although it needs to factor in an exception where the president is clearly acting in bad faith and for corrupt motives.
 

kherg007

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The us Supreme Court is now the ruling mullahs of America.
 
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mandrill

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It's actually not a bad decision, although it needs to factor in an exception where the president is clearly acting in bad faith and for corrupt motives.
All decision-makers have immunity, as long as they stay within the proper ambit of their powers. Judges have judicial immunity. Legislators have legislative immunity.

The decision won't affect the hush money case, as this was when Trump was a private citizen BEFORE he became president. It probably won't affect the stolen documents case, as Trump was a private citizen AFTER he was president.

The insurrection case is interesting, as it involves corrupt and bad faith conduct when Trump was still in office.
 
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All decision-makers have immunity, as long as they stay within the proper ambit of their powers. Judges have judicial immunity. Legislators have legislative immunity.

The decision won't affect the hush money case, as this was when Trump was a private citizen BEFORE he became president. It probably won't affect the stolen documents case, as Trump was a private citizen AFTER he was president.

The insurrection case is interesting, as it involves corrupt and bad faith conduct when Trump was still in office.
It seems a number of pieces of evidence showing corrupt intent might be considered official acts (eg telling lawyers what to do, acknowledging that he lost to biden, etc). Not sure of the list yet.
 
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It seems a number of pieces of evidence showing corrupt intent might be considered official acts (eg telling lawyers what to do, acknowledging that he lost to biden, etc). Not sure of the list yet.
The question is whether the USSC ruling allows bad faith to be taken into account or confers absolute immunity.

Also a question of whether challenging the selection of his successor is within his role as president, as it doesn't involve enforcement and execution of Congress's decrees or his diplomatic duties?

If this is Trump qua private citizen / candidate, then immunity should not attach. And indeed, the president has no role in the selection of the incoming president. It's the Senate and the V-P who play the key roles.
 
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This ruling is the big gamble for turning the US authoritarian.

SCOTUS made the ruling on the last possible day before the election and now have gone in hiding.
Its a major gamble that by declaring the president to have the powers that Biden won't use them and they will just be used by rump to overturn/overthrow the election and then through his following dictatorship.

Really, the big question is whether Biden is too distracted by fighting off calls to resign to do anything about it before the election.
Ideally he'd make use of the powers to cripple SCOTUS and rump and then let someone else run during the election.

If not, democracy is likely done there.

 
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Are you okay?
The lefties are calling for Trump to be poisoned or nuked. LOL. I thought they were worried about Trump doing that to his political opponent? Yet they are calling for it to be done to him. The TDS is strong in these guys. I think the left all needs to take a pill or seek mental help.
 
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All decision-makers have immunity, as long as they stay within the proper ambit of their powers. Judges have judicial immunity. Legislators have legislative immunity.

The decision won't affect the hush money case, as this was when Trump was a private citizen BEFORE he became president. It probably won't affect the stolen documents case, as Trump was a private citizen AFTER he was president.

The insurrection case is interesting, as it involves corrupt and bad faith conduct when Trump was still in office.
It could affect the hush money case. The payments were made after he was President. It could also affect the documents case, He was still President when he took them to Florida
 
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