No. I was simply taking yours and Kaut's conflicting premises and worked them against each other. I clearly said that "you guys can't have it both ways".
UNWRA Report Out….Confirms that Israel is POS Nation
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So then you should also say that because one half of the party didn't agree with partition it doesn't count and both countries are not legitimized by the UN.
You can't be both at the same time, hammy.
Zionists are throwing fire bombs at children in tents now.
I remember you going to the mods because I once sarcastically and obviously altered a post of yours but here you are with your normal asinine double standard repeatedly doing far worse.
The fact that you need to fake people's posts shows how far you've fallen.
So what if history has the Brits offering a Partition plan before WWII?
Anyone knowledgeable in history knows that the Brits wanted addition support in WWI and at the same time made vague somewhat contradictory promises to Zionist Jews and Arabs (specifically the Hashemite clan). They planned to somewhat satisfy both promises by allowing both Jewish and Arab autonomy in the Palestine Mandate and giving Syria, Jordan, and Iraq to the Hashemites.
Just like today's Palestinian leadership, the Arab leadership of the time was far more interested in eliminating the Jewish presence than they were in building the 600,000 sq km of land the Brits handed to them. Far more important for them to take the remaining 200,000 km^2.
But the fact that 10 million Israelis currently live there says they should be considered exactly as much as 5 million West Bank Palestinians.
And what legitimacy do you have in immigrating to Canada? What legitimacy do any of 37 million settlers in Canada have?
WTF? Do you think inventing your own version of reality makes it somehow true?
Israel's existence as a modern state is explicitly due to the UN. The fact that the Arab states refused to listen to the UN doesn't change that (just like Hamas refusing to agree to ceasefires and release their hostages). Pretty fucked up that you blame Israel because Arab countries attacked them to prevent their existence.
p.s. Israel is the ancestral homeland of Judaism with Judea and ancient Israel being extremely well documented. Also significant is except for a brief periods after the expulsion at the hands of the Romans, Jews have had a continual existence for more than 3000 years. As I said in my other post, that is irrelevant compared to the current existence of millions of Israelis.
p.p.s. Doesn't your boy Modi think Hindus are the chosen people as he continues to stamp on the rights of Indian Muslims?
I did not understand the 1st sentence.
Canada is a legitimate state and I used a legitimate state's immigration laws to immigrate here. Also if you read my previous statement to which you are responding - I made the comment that Israel established status TODAY does not negate the illegitimacy of its formation based on religious mumbo jumbo. None of that sort of rhetoric was used by Canadians when they settled here.
Israel is the homeland of Judaism. Not the Europeans who happened to be Jews. That is some religious bullshit. Israel is also the homeland of Christianity. How about we invade Israel and I as a Catholic, will make Aliyah to the now Christian nation. We will call it...Christland. Makes sense, no?
And no, the UN passed a resolution recommending the partition of Mandatory Palestine. The Israelis immediately declared independence and took the land for themselves. The UN does not have the authority to form nations, or draw borders. Nice try, trying to put a spin on history.
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Sorry but when did Palestine exist? After their leaders rejected partition, the proposed Arab state was annexed by Jordan (and Egypt).
Of course you don't understand because you can't accept that 10 million people living in Israel should have rights.
And sorry but Canada is no more legitimate than Israel. It exists because French and British troops invaded and stole the land and the fact that you chose to become a settler here undermines every single argument you make about Israel's Jews.
Jews have a near continuous history in Israel while Europeans and South Asians have no legitimate justification for being in Canada.
Both Israel and Canada are legitimate TODAY. I said Israel's formation was illegitimate. As was its premise. Jews have a continuous history in Israel. The Europeans, who settled there, do not.
Jews settled and dispossessed the native population, because it was their promised land. The Europeans settled here for trade. The Europeans did brutalize the native population, but subsequently provided remediation. The Israelis are still slaughtering the natives.
South Asians have nothing to do with any of this and we count as immigrants. Not settlers. We used immigration laws to come here unlike the Jews who settled in Israel or the Europeans who settled in Canada.
That's a fallacious argument.
They were offered the lands at the same time but one was not contingent on the other.
Each side was given territory to do with as they wished. Israel accepted the land and developed it and have flourished. On the other hand the Palestinians refused the land gifted to them and have stupidly spent the last 75 years fighting losing battle after losing battle trying to undo their mistake. They made themselves refugees by not accepting the land with which they'd have had their own country.
There was a peaceful solution/option at their fingertips but they reverted to their default approach, violence. Decisions have consequences.
Go to the mods, then.
Tell them you're really angry because I keep deleting all the lies you post and it takes you so long to think them up.
In general, you sound incredibly angry these days.
Any reason why?
The Brits promised Palestinians they'd give them back Palestine for their help in WWII.
Then they gave half of it to zionists and were shocked Palestinians weren't happy.
Do you need me to post the letters from before partition where zionists declared they wanted all of Palestine?
You're deflecting.
At the time of partition, both Jews and Palestinians were offered land. The Jews accepted theirs and the Palis rejected theirs. That does not make Israel's acceptance of the land illegal. For you to talk about what Zionists wanted prior to partition is a deflection from what actually happened AT the time of partition. That is what we were talking about.
The Zionists may have wanted more but they accepted less. The Palis wanted more and accepted nothing...........except war.
You're deflecting.
If the UN partition resolution is the only thing that makes Israel a legitimate state then it also made Palestine a legitimate state.
That means the only internationally recognized borders are those of partition.
Everything beyond that is Palestine.
You're starting to sound like a really old version of this.
Palestine rejected their land and Israel accepted theirs. Israel built a thriving state on their land that is a member of the UN .
How can there be a state with no land? The UN does not consider Palestine a state because of that. How many states are there that have no land? The state of Self-Delusion?
