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I'm just wondering if any of the States in the United States have UBI or are having laws to bring in UBI?
 

DesRicardo

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I think California had a test project (SF if I'm not mistaken).

The problem with the UBI crowd is when you ask them how will you sustain funding, they can't give you an answer.

The thought of free money is nice, but how realistic is it?
 

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I think California had a test project (SF if I'm not mistaken).

The problem with the UBI crowd is when you ask them how will you sustain funding, they can't give you an answer.

The thought of free money is nice, but how realistic is it?
UBI is cheaper than welfare and disability.
Admin costs are so much lower that you end up saving money.
 
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I think California had a test project (SF if I'm not mistaken).

The problem with the UBI crowd is when you ask them how will you sustain funding, they can't give you an answer.

The thought of free money is nice, but how realistic is it?
Don’t look at California for any guidance. They are a disaster with the all of the poverty, disparity between upper class and rest of population, and serious administrative problems. I think they recently admitted to having no idea where most of the funds they used to combat homeless went. Most people are moving out of California if they can.
 
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Valcazar

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UBI is cheaper than welfare and disability.
Admin costs are so much lower that you end up saving money.
That is why many Libertarians support it.
Give out UBI and then cut all welfare and social security and other government support.
 

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Don’t look at California for any guidance. They are a disaster with the all of the poverty, disparity between upper class and rest of population, and serious administrative problems. I think they recently admitted to having no idea where most of the funds they used to combat homeless went. Most people are moving out of California if they can.
why do you think they are thinking it's about bringing UBI in their state? For the exact reason you wrote.
 
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UBI is cheaper than welfare and disability.
Admin costs are so much lower that you end up saving money.
True if they get rid of the existing programs and wrap it all under UBI. However, the reality is that it would very likely be ‘In addition’ to existing programs. Just is.
 
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I'm just wondering if any of the States in the United States have UBI or are having laws to bring in UBI?
The US calls it Social Security. As with Canada, the old people get all the benefits and the kids get fucked over,

generationscrewed.ca
 

DesRicardo

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Don’t look at California for any guidance. They are a disaster with the all of the poverty, disparity between upper class and rest of population, and serious administrative problems. I think they recently admitted to having no idea where most of the funds they used to combat homeless went. Most people are moving out of California if they can.
So it was Stockton, California. A little background history, the city filed for Bankruptcy in 2012.

They launched this test a year before covid-19 and I think it showed how vulnerable the UBI idea is. Below is their website and an article.
 
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JohnLarue

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The US calls it Social Security. As with Canada, the old people get all the benefits and the kids get fucked over,

generationscrewed.ca
yeah, the old people who paid into the CPP all of their careers should hand that money over to the ungrateful youngsters that they clothed, fed, sheltered and protected for 20 years

here i fixed your web address for you

generationscrewedup.ca
 

jalimon

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yeah, the old people who paid into the CPP all of their careers should hand that money over to the ungrateful youngsters that they clothed, fed, sheltered and protected for 20 years

here i fixed your web address for you

generationscrewedup.ca
What you say is true. The boomers won the monopoly game.

I am fine with that. Just i don’t want them to complain about the decay of our society, the rise of poverty, violence and everything associated with financial struggle.

Get into your million dollar home you paid 75k and shut up. No other generations will ever have such opportunity.
 
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JohnLarue

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What you say is true. The boomers won the monopoly game.

I am fine with that. Just i don’t want them to complain about the decay of our society, the rise of poverty, violence and everything associated with financial struggle.

Get into your million dollar home you paid 75k and shut up. No other generations will ever have such opportunity.
really ??

Baby boomers and the silent generation will bequest a total of $84.4 trillion in assets through to 2045, with $72.6 trillion going directly to heirs
. The transfer of wealth from baby boomers will account for $53 trillion or 63% of all transfers, while the Silent Generation will hand down $15.8 trillion.
so shut up and wait for the inheritance trillions , assuming the loony left govts do not tax inheritance by then

and baby boomers have no right to worry about the decay of our society, despite seeing how todays barking mad youth acts

 
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What you say is true. The boomers won the monopoly game.

I am fine with that. Just i don’t want them to complain about the decay of our society, the rise of poverty, violence and everything associated with financial struggle.

Get into your million dollar home you paid 75k and shut up. No other generations will ever have such opportunity.
Front end boomers(and the ones just slightly older ever more so) won the monopoly game. Back end boomers had most of the 9 million boomers on their back.
Back end boomers may have enjoyed sheltered childhoods, but slim pickings in the job market in the 1980s.
 
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