ungrateful homeless man throws change back

[Greytop19]

These poor folks are left on the street like garbage while millions and billions of our tax dollars go to other countries to fight wars, kill mankind and destroy cities.
And so is life. Thanks for your responses.

 

[Uncharted]

The problem is that helping the homeless has become a business in and of itself. And like all government "Businesses" it wastes money to the extreme.

I remember a report done a decade or so back where they looked at the amount of total dollars going into the homeless issue, and divided that up amongst the statistical number of Homeless in Toronto. And it was found that the amount of money going in to the homeless problem should equate to almost $2000 a month for every homeless person. Back then that was enough for basic rent and food.
Yet when you looked at the actual value of the services the homeless were getting, it was like $200 a month. Where was the rest of the money going?
You could literally just give them the $2000 a month and let them rent apartments, but somehow, after the Homeless Government "Business" gets through with it, barely $200 worth of help actually got to them.
Why?
Because these so called government agencies devoted to supposedly helping the homeless are making huge bucks from it. They are not interested in actually solving the homeless problem. That would put them out of business.

 

[richaceg]

I had a homeless guy ask me for money to buy something to eat. I said " I'll buy you anything you want to eat but not giving you money". He turned around and walked away.

Lol similar thing happened to me at Tim's by Sickkids hospital...I was lining up for a coffee and i felt a tap on my shoulder...guy gestures an open palm asking for something...I asked him to pick a meal of his choosing....he gave me a not so friendly look and walked away...

 

[richaceg]

The problem is that helping the homeless has become a business in and of itself. And like all government "Businesses" it wastes money to the extreme.

I remember a report done a decade or so back where they looked at the amount of total dollars going into the homeless issue, and divided that up amongst the statistical number of Homeless in Toronto. And it was found that the amount of money going in to the homeless problem should equate to almost $2000 a month for every homeless person. Back then that was enough for basic rent and food.
Yet when you looked at the actual value of the services the homeless were getting, it was like $200 a month. Where was the rest of the money going?
You could literally just give them the $2000 a month and let them rent apartments, but somehow, after the Homeless Government "Business" gets through with it, barely $200 worth of help actually got to them.
Why?
Because these so called government agencies devoted to supposedly helping the homeless are making huge bucks from it. They are not interested in actually solving the homeless problem. That would put them out of business.

I won't blame these agencies 100%....if you hand out 2k to a homeless, how confident are you it's going straight to rent and necessities?

 

[richaceg]

some of the people in this thread just make me SMH
Going homeless can happen to anybody
heres some examples
your healthy now but god forbid you wake up tomorrow with a chronic health problem that fucks up your life your job your head and now your living off savings then presto your btroke ass
your wife wipes you out financuially your left with a bag of clothes then god forbid you lose your job -homeless
your an alcoholic you can't function without alcohol it fucks you up DUIS criminal record loss of job -homeless
you have a shopping addiction-you max out credit cards and lines of credit -your debt makes you homeless
your a gambler -your debt takes all your savings and assets -presto your homeless
your wife has a rare disease treatment for it to keep her alive is 150k a year not covered by any insurance plan
your a drug addict -you had a nice house car you put it all up your nose -hocus focus your brooks -homeless

To any of you that think homeless are pieces of shit -you really are a piece of shit and ill tell you why
a homeless guy doesn't have a bathroom near by all there time and that's beyond stressful
a homeless guy doesn't have a shower accessible that's stressful
a homeless guy has walked for 19 hours and that's stressful
a homeless guy tries not to get killed on street and that's stressful
a homeless guy probs can't have sex like he wants that's stressful
a homeless guy hasn't had his hair cut in 9 months that's stressful
and a homeless guy watches people walk by him everyday like he doesn't exist struggling that's stressful

so he finds a guy who wants to buy him something and he asks for more because hes not used to someone giving him anything
he wants more food or more money he feels having a Big Mac would be better with 2 of them

he wants that 5 to be a 20 because he wants to buy pizza n beer and feel like the old er self he was when he did that at home
and you think hes being ungrateful;
try living on the street for 48 hours most of you would have a breakdown most of these homeless people died have mental breakdowns being on the street
and if a bottle of whiskey makes him sleep after 6 days of staying awake so no one stabs him let him enjoy the fuckin whiskey
do you not see that these guys are sleeping on hard benches with all kinds of people coming around them
do you not see they just want to feel good while there beyond overwhelmed full of anxiety full of no hope no light at the end of the tunnel
because stupid people say go get a job
the shelters are dangerous more than the street
he can't afford a room because the government only gives 200 bucks to those with no fixed address and most don't get this because someone on the street pick pocketed there id when sleeping
they freeze in the winter they can't get healthcare without a card
they've been beating here and there
they smell
they have one change of clothing
and there hungry
and looking for a miracle
shame on the idiots for thinking that these people are not worth a helping hand
it could be you one day
it happened to me over 10 years ago
and it traumatizes you forever

You may have a point but I've known several people who arrived in Canada with nothing but a bag of old clothes, don't know any government assistance available to aid them...worked their ass off doing 3 jobs and 20 years later owns a 2 car garage homes in some GTA suburbs....all because they are just happy to be in Canada rather than the 3rd world shithole they came from...

 

[bazokajoe]

You may have a point but I've known several people who arrived in Canada with nothing but a bag of old clothes, don't know any government assistance available to aid them...worked their ass off doing 3 jobs and 20 years later owns a 2 car garage homes in some GTA suburbs....all because they are just happy to be in Canada rather than the 3rd world shithole they came from...

Exactly.
Good example is all the Europeans who came here after WW1 & WW2.

 

[Uncharted]

I won't blame these agencies 100%....if you hand out 2k to a homeless, how confident are you it's going straight to rent and necessities?

Then they are choosing to be homeless. Aren't they? If you give them enough money per month to allow them to house and feed themselves, and they chose not to use it for that, it is their choice. You can lead a horse to water............
This is no different than the basic minimum income the left is screaming for, thinking it will be the end of homelessness. It won't. They already have enough money for a basic minimum income for the homeless, but because they won't use it for such, we will still have a homeless issue even with a minimum income for everyone. And we will then still need to kick in even more money for that on top of the basic minimum income.
Which is why the basic minimum income is a bad idea.

But none of this explains why out of the $2000 for every homeless person that was in the system, only about $200 of it actually gets to them. That is 100% the fault of these Agencies, skimming.

 

[Darts]

"The Toronto Board of Health says the city has spent $200 million to open new shelter facilities and move homeless people into hotels, and is asking the province to foot part of the bill."
Coronavirus: Toronto asks Ontario government for more testing, funding in homeless shelters - Toronto | Globalnews.ca