Unfair treatment at work... Pls help!

[Moraff]

1: I am suprised the OP is getting flack for taking 2 months off from a mcjob. Fuck em, you pay shit, expect shit.

Sorry I don't know many employers that would give an employee - especially a part-timer - 2 months off for a vacation, or even a wedding as the OP's story is now revealed. As for treating the employer like shit because they pay shit.... well if you didn't like the wage you shouldn't have taken the job in the first place IMO.

2: If you are being treated unfairly, quit. As long as they pay your agreeded hourly wages, and don't force you to stay, or rape you, STFU and quit. Thats the problem with society these days, everyone runs to big mama government to fight their battles for them.

Yup.

3: Tips? At a Buffet? WTF? Its bad enough customers have to bribe waiters, cab drivers and all sorts of other parasites to do their mcjobs, but to expect someone to do the work themselves and pay you for the privledge? People really are sheep if they tip at a buffet. Whats next, tipping at a self serve gas station [not that people tip at full service]

well to be fair, the min. wage for waitservers is lower than the min. wage for other jobs because of the expected tipping that occurs.

4: Chinese Buffet

John Pinette says it best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdwuiyO7hOU

I like his humour.

 

[hornykid]

Ya, I quit the job today. Thank you, guys. Now looking for another part time job.

 

[Mikehorn]

Try Stinkynuts' old employer, maybe they haven't replaced him yet.

 

[Keanu]

At my job you were hired on contract and got 1/2 what the fulltimers get to start, around $14.50. You worked hard to make it to full time. At $14.50, overtime shifts are a necessity. So you're working harder for longer. It's life.A rite of passage. You have to prove yourself.

Getting screwed? Doesn't sound to me like you've been royally screwed. Slightly gazed at best. Wait until you're doing your bosses' job while he/she gets all the pay and praise. Wait until you see how promotions really work in a lot of cases. It's a popularity contest, and work is all a big game. I've been the guy the boss loves and in one case, his arch enemy. if you find yourself on the wrong end of the politics, watch out. Justice? Due process? Life is often times unfair. Control as much of your destiny as possible through good planning and preparation.

 

[hornykid]

I agree with you, man.

At my job you were hired on contract and got 1/2 what the fulltimers get to start, around $14.50. You worked hard to make it to full time. At $14.50, overtime shifts are a necessity. So you're working harder for longer. It's life.A rite of passage. You have to prove yourself.

Getting screwed? Doesn't sound to me like you've been royally screwed. Slightly gazed at best. Wait until you're doing your bosses' job while he/she gets all the pay and praise. Wait until you see how promotions really work in a lot of cases. It's a popularity contest, and work is all a big game. I've been the guy the boss loves and in one case, his arch enemy. if you find yourself on the wrong end of the politics, watch out. Justice? Due process? Life is often times unfair. Control as much of your destiny as possible through good planning and preparation.

 

[Keebler Elf]

First off, it wasn't a two month vacation because he wasn't paid for it. Unpaid leave maybe, but not vacation. Do you actually think the OP gets benefits or anything else that remotely costs the employer anything for those two months? I don't. We're talking about what amounts to casual employment. He simply wasn't scheduled to work. Wow, big burden on the employer there.

Secondly, if the employer wanted to fire him or didn't want him back, then the employer could have done just that. But he didn't. He called the OP in to work. So all this "woe is the employer" bullshit is just that - bullshit.

Thirdly, changing a person's compensation without telling them normally constitutes constructive dismissal. Since this is tips and we're only talking about one shift (not to mention a McJob), it's a different story. I'm not sure but I don't think tips are covered under the Employment Standards Act.

The venom from some of posters in this thread is ridiculous. How miserable your lives must be to attack the OP in such a way. The bottom line is the guy gets called in to work and doesn't find out until the end of the shift that his compensation has been reduced. You'd be pissed too (yeah, we really believe you'd be saying, "Oh thank you thank you Mr. Gracious Employer for giving me the golden opportunity to work for your most benevolent being..."). The whole "vacation" aspect is a red herring. It was the employer's choice to bring him back.

 

[hornykid]

Finally, someone understand what I am trying to say. Thanks, Keebler Elf!

First off, it wasn't a two month vacation because he wasn't paid for it. Unpaid leave maybe, but not vacation. Do you actually think the OP gets benefits or anything else that remotely costs the employer anything for those two months? I don't. We're talking about what amounts to casual employment. He simply wasn't scheduled to work. Wow, big burden on the employer there.

Secondly, if the employer wanted to fire him or didn't want him back, then the employer could have done just that. But he didn't. He called the OP in to work.

Thirdly, changing a person's compensation without telling them normally constitutes constructive dismissal. Since this is tips and we're only talking about one shift, that's a different story. I'm not sure but I don't think tips are covered under the Employment Standards Act.

The venom from some of posters in this thread is ridiculous. How miserable your lives must be to attack the OP in such a way. The bottom line is the guy gets called in to work and doesn't find out until the end of the shift that his compensation has been reduced. You'd be pissed too. The whole "vacation" aspect is a red herring. It was the employer's choice to bring him back.

 

[tboy]

First off, it wasn't a two month vacation because he wasn't paid for it. Unpaid leave maybe, but not vacation. Do you actually think the OP gets benefits or anything else that remotely costs the employer anything for those two months? I don't. We're talking about what amounts to casual employment. He simply wasn't scheduled to work. Wow, big burden on the employer there.

Secondly, if the employer wanted to fire him or didn't want him back, then the employer could have done just that. But he didn't. He called the OP in to work. So all this "woe is the employer" bullshit is just that - bullshit.

Thirdly, changing a person's compensation without telling them normally constitutes constructive dismissal. Since this is tips and we're only talking about one shift (not to mention a McJob), it's a different story. I'm not sure but I don't think tips are covered under the Employment Standards Act.

The venom from some of posters in this thread is ridiculous. How miserable your lives must be to attack the OP in such a way. The bottom line is the guy gets called in to work and doesn't find out until the end of the shift that his compensation has been reduced. You'd be pissed too (yeah, we really believe you'd be saying, "Oh thank you thank you Mr. Gracious Employer for giving me the golden opportunity to work for your most benevolent being..."). The whole "vacation" aspect is a red herring. It was the employer's choice to bring him back.

First off, I don't believe part timers qualify for paid vacation. So taking time off without pay isn't out of the ordinary. In fact, go back to the original post: the op specifically stated he took a 2 month vacation.....

As for changing his "compensation" please remember part of that "compensation" is for gratuities that he didn't earn, whether that was a rule before or not (and he's complaining about it).

As for the "employer's choice to bring him back", there was no "bringing back". His job was there waiting for him as he was never terminated. In fact, the OP stated numerous times that he had to basically chase down the employer in order to get shifts and was complaining about that too.

Now it sounds to me like numerous other people in this thread would react like I would when a part time employee came to me with a request for a 2 month leave of absence or vacation, I'd say to them: sorry, I hired you and if you want 2 months off, you can have it but I am not holding the job for you. (hell, I've had FULL time employees get turned down for stuff like this and they had 10 yrs senority).

As for costs to the employer: they had to hire a replacement and train them. Yes, there are costs incurred and to think otherwise is just ludicrous. Either they had to hire someone else or others took up the slack while he was on vacation. Either way, coming back and expecting to be treated better than everyone else is just indicative of the mentality of workers these days.

As for your term "venom" and "attacking". The OP came on here asking for advice and as always, he didn't get the pity party he was hunting for. Most of his complaining is just plain old belly aching for not being treated as he expected (and I bet demanded) he be treated with. Frankly as an employer myself I reward those that show up everyday for their shift and give me 100% and give bonus' to those that go above and beyond the call of duty. I do NOT reward those that begrudingly do the tasks assigned to them and bitch about having to do them. If the OP doesn't think his "attitude" comes across when he's working in this mindset, he's sorely mistaken.

 

[hornykid]

I chase down the employer to get shifts? Did you even read what I wrote?

As for the "employer's choice to bring him back", there was no "bringing back". His job was there waiting for him as he was never terminated. In fact, the OP stated numerous times that he had to basically chase down the employer in order to get shifts and was complaining about that too.

 

[hornykid]

Hey tboy, do you even read? I just told my employer that I was back in Canada. That's it.

 

[tboy]

I chase down the employer to get shifts? Did you even read what I wrote?

Yup, sure did:

I came back in July and called them, they said they re-schedule me. They didn't even schedule me to work till this weekend. So I was a little bit upset because the owner never called me back.

They never call me back after I came back from vacation.

Sounds a little like you were doing the chasing to me.....so are you telling us that you called when you got back and then didn't call again ever? (or until they called you?). So you sat around for over a month (or around a month depending on when in july you got back).

You see, when you leave out details you leave it up to us to assume or to fill in the blanks...and I filled in the blanks.....

Just thinking, July was only 11 days ago. So you made it seem like you waited forever to get a shift. So, did you wait 11 days only? or was it longer?

 

[hornykid]

I called them only once. Is that what you call chasing? I never thought I'll be working for them again anyways in July. I called them on June 30th. They call me in early August. That is 1 month.

 

[tboy]

Ok, so you didn't "chase" them.....funny how people get all "offended" when someone doesn't have ESP......what did you think we could do, put our hand on our monitor and know everything if you don't tell us?

BTW: you obviously didn't really want to get any shifts if you only called them once in 6 weeks looking for shifts......

No matter what Keeb says: if I was your boss you wouldn't have had to quit, I would have never scheduled you to work again......

 

[hornykid]

That's what I expected too, but they re-schedule me and they lower my tips percentage without me knowing. That is what I am upset out. It's like you go to your job getting paid xx/hr, after the weekend, you come back you get 75 percent of the xx/hr without you knowing. Would you be upset?

 

[tboy]

That's what I expected too, but they re-schedule me and they lower my tips percentage without me knowing. That is what I am upset out. It's like you go to your job getting paid xx/hr, after the weekend, you come back you get 75 percent of the xx/hr without you knowing. Would you be upset?

You're comparing apples to oranges. It is NOT like going to your work on friday and having them change your salary on Monday.

The flaws in your analogy are:
1) They didn't reduce your hourly rate, they changed the way the tips were calculated (including tips for times you weren't even working).
2) It wasn't 2 days, it was 3+ months... (2 months vacation plus 6 weeks that you have been back).

I'm done with this thread. You expected a lot from your employer while bitching about everything they did for you

 

[oldjones]

Y'know an awful lot of the back and forth in this thread is arguing about the meaning of terms like: "vacation", "full-time", "part-time", along with the OP supplying the details in dribs and drabs well after his first post: like taking the time for a wedding, not to laze on a beach, or working longer than others in the 'same' job, and whether the jobs were the 'same'. Just count the times he's had to come back and explain what he thought he already said. It should be a lesson horny, if you want helpful discussion, put more effort into clearly defining and stating your issue. But if you wanted to stir folks up and get them arguing, you did just fine.

And the next time you ask your boss for something special, remember the fuss caused by your lack of clarity, and be dead sure she and you are actually agreeing to the same thing before you end the conversation.

 

[Moraff]

That's what I expected too, but they re-schedule me and they lower my tips percentage without me knowing. That is what I am upset out. It's like you go to your job getting paid xx/hr, after the weekend, you come back you get 75 percent of the xx/hr without you knowing. Would you be upset?

Sure I would, but you came on asking if you had a case for the Labour Board to deal with. Those of us who tried to help were trying to solve the problem, not give you a shoulder to cry on.

So what did your employer say when you asked him why he lowered the cut of the tips you got?

 

[DayDreamer1]

whatever you do..it wont be a win situation...he will get provoked and you will get treated unfairly again....so quit...find another job..there are plenty available if you look at the write places...n maybe the boss will like you leading to better money for you hence more hobbying

let me know if you need any advice on looking for a job..

 

[hornykid]

My employer "pretend" that I was suppose to get that much, then I said " Cmon, I've been working here over a year now. Don't pretend you don't know." He had nothing to say.

So what did your employer say when you asked him why he lowered the cut of the tips you got?

 

[hornykid]

Ya, I am just looking for some part time serving job on Weekends. A baby is on its way so maybe need more money.