Ukraine updates

[SchlongConery]

May 20, 2023

Bakhmut Has Fallen - Artyomovsk Has Been Liberated
The so far largest battle of the 21st century ended today.

Bakhmut has fallen. Artyomovsk (the Russian/Soviet name of the city) has been liberated. This was announced today by the titular leader of the Wagner forces, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in a video posted on Telegram.

Why the Ukrainian leadership had decided to hold onto the city even months after the situation there was already in its disfavor is beyond me. The fight was decided by the numerical superiority of Russian artillery fire and the Ukraine had never a chance to top that.

The losses there for the Ukrainians amounted to 300 to 500 men per day over that last 5 months. That sums up to a total of 60,000 casualties. Ten days ago Ukrainian units, including the fascist Azov brigade, rolled up the Russian flanks north and south of Bakhmut to allow the Ukrainian troops in the city to flee west. That attack alone, only one or 2 kilometer deep, cost them some 1,600+ men and some 50+ armored vehicles.

On the Russian side the fighting in the city was largely done by Wagner troops. But they were never able to do it on their own. Russian military intelligence, artillery and logistics all played an important role in the fight.

The city has been destroyed but it will continued to exist as it is an important logistical hub with several rail and road connections running through it.

Mariupol, which fell/was liberated a year ago, is already being rebuild. In a month or two, when the frontline has moved away from Artyomovsk, rebuilding will start there too.

For a moment now the front line in Ukraine seems all around relative quiet .

It is not clear to me when or where a new operational move will start.

Here is another opinion of the "victory" at Bakhmut from an influential pro-war Russian political bigshot. Like you, addy!

According to ultra-nationalist Russian hawk Igor "Strelkov" Girkin, Sergey Rusov sent him this text. Called it a "pyrric victory" for Russia. Meaning they burned themselves to the ground to win.... nothing. Except for politics. Which also has failed.

 

[SchlongConery]

May 20, 2023

Bakhmut Has Fallen - Artyomovsk Has Been Liberated
The so far largest battle of the 21st century ended today.

Bakhmut has fallen. Artyomovsk (the Russian/Soviet name of the city) has been liberated. This was announced today by the titular leader of the Wagner forces, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in a video posted on Telegram.

Why the Ukrainian leadership had decided to hold onto the city even months after the situation there was already in its disfavor is beyond me. The fight was decided by the numerical superiority of Russian artillery fire and the Ukraine had never a chance to top that.

The losses there for the Ukrainians amounted to 300 to 500 men per day over that last 5 months. That sums up to a total of 60,000 casualties. Ten days ago Ukrainian units, including the fascist Azov brigade, rolled up the Russian flanks north and south of Bakhmut to allow the Ukrainian troops in the city to flee west. That attack alone, only one or 2 kilometer deep, cost them some 1,600+ men and some 50+ armored vehicles.

On the Russian side the fighting in the city was largely done by Wagner troops. But they were never able to do it on their own. Russian military intelligence, artillery and logistics all played an important role in the fight.

The city has been destroyed but it will continued to exist as it is an important logistical hub with several rail and road connections running through it.

Mariupol, which fell/was liberated a year ago, is already being rebuild. In a month or two, when the frontline has moved away from Artyomovsk, rebuilding will start there too.

For a moment now the front line in Ukraine seems all around relative quiet .

It is not clear to me when or where a new operational move will start.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659978341603000325

 

[SchlongConery]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659251593890365474

Fake MSM news obviously. There is no corruption in the Russian military. They are all "straight shooters". Unless they are using rifles or artillery.

 

[squeezer]

Zelensky is large and in charge

 

[mandrill]

Here is another opinion of the "victory" at Bakhmut from an influential pro-war Russian political bigshot. Like you, addy!

According to ultra-nationalist Russian hawk Igor "Strelkov" Girkin, Sergey Rusov sent him this text. Called it a "pyrric victory" for Russia. Meaning they burned themselves to the ground to win.... nothing. Except for politics. Which also has failed.

Strelkov is competent and outspoken and a total fascist, nationalist Russian prick. That motherfucker needs a bullet.

 

[SchlongConery]

Strelkov is competent and outspoken and a total fascist, nationalist Russian prick. That motherfucker needs a bullet.

Does he ever. A psychopathic, murderous fascist barbarian. A proud war criminal in his past service to Mother Russia.

And yes, he is very competent, knowledgable and therefore dangerous. I'd say that Ukraine would have seen a whole lot more hurt if Strelkov was commanding some Russian battalions.

Maybe his big mouth will earn him the current traditional award for speaking competently.

 

[SchlongConery]

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Somebody needs a kick in her moneymaker. Maybe they found the sacks of quarters this two-bit whore made while 'sugaring'!

 

[mandrill]

Does he ever. A psychopathic, murderous fascist barbarian. A proud war criminal in his past service to Mother Russia.

And yes, he is very competent, knowledgable and therefore dangerous. I'd say that Ukraine would have seen a whole lot more hurt if Strelkov was commanding some Russian battalions.

Maybe his big mouth will earn him the current traditional award for speaking competently.

Da. He's actually smart and capable - which is hugely different to the standard Russian fuckery and incompetence.

Thank fuck the Russians will never appoint someone with that level of ability to lead their sad, corrupt army. Never have, never will.

 

[Addict2sex]

 

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660110668924690432

 

[danmand]

Maybe by birth.

But seems he has evolved into a Dutchman! Talk, talk, talk. Listens/reads only enough to find a single word he can use to launch off on what a Dutchman does best, talking without listening.

Tells me that "the word I am looking for is schadenfreude. " Yet hasn't even read, or comprehended the very first sentence and a half I wrote that says

Sjeeezz man, you are a bit high strung. I was just trying to help you.
Who here reads every single post in the political forum?

 

[squeezer]

Former MI6 boss explains why NATO weapons will defeat Russia in Ukraine | Richard Dearlove

 

[oil&gas]

I gather defeat means Russian withdrawal from Ukraine territories anywhere
between a few months to a few years from now.

 

[squeezer]

I gather defeat means Russian withdrawal from Ukraine territories anywhere
between a few months to a few years from now.

I actually believe if Putin had some sense he would offer a complete withdrawal on the condition he's allowed to keep Crimea with assurances of no further illegal invasions because you know it is an illegal invasion of a sovereign country, right?

I suspect the Ukrainians would accept this but Putin is a greedy, delusional POS so I'm not betting on it happening.

 

[danmand]

I actually believe if Putin had some sense he would offer a complete withdrawal on the condition he's allowed to keep Crimea with assurances of no further illegal invasions because you know it is an illegal invasion of a sovereign country, right?

I suspect the Ukrainians would accept this but Putin is a greedy, delusional POS so I'm not betting on it happening.

It would be political suicide for Putin to abandon the Russian (speaking) people in the Donbass.

 

[Frankfooter]

It would be political suicide for Putin to abandon the Russian (speaking) people in the Donbass.

And its political suicide for the invasion to fail now as well.

 

[SchlongConery]

Sjeeezz man, you are a bit high strung. I was just trying to help you.
Who here reads every single post in the political forum?

Who reads first before commenting on what was written?

People interesting in meaningful dialogue and exchange of ideas maybe?

Maybe those who just feel the need to post think they already know everything and look for a single word to pipe up. You know, that guy at the party and family get togethers that everyone dreads entering the conversation. And then start making excuses to go grab some more of Aunt Inga's delicious fermented shark!

My dad used to say to put your brain in gear before you put your mouth in motion. Wise man!

 

[NotADcotor]

why man, WHY?

Actually, hide, one of these Kremlin supporters is going to have you sent off to Putin to use as a secret weapon!!!

My father was i nthe acute care ward of the hospital very recently. Nobody looked like that. It was the biggest lie since the never ending story ended, or how IP Man isn't about a guy who works with Internet protocol, or how Iron Man isn't about triathletes... so many lies.

 

[NotADcotor]

Maybe by birth.

But seems he has evolved into a Dutchman! Talk, talk, talk. Listens/reads only enough to find a single word he can use to launch off on what a Dutchman does best, talking without listening.

Sounds like much like Austen Powers, there are two things you hate, racial intolerance and the Dutch.

 

[NotADcotor]

I disagree. Your angles are pretty much always right.


Maybe your wife thinks otherwise on household matters?

Alas I have no wife, for I am not Acute. My gut gets in the way and lack of flexibility.