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First, your attacks were on Beiber, now it's a potato. Why are you picking on the poor spud?
Trump need to win to get rid of the deep state , with the endless forever war start by neocons, neoliberals, Globalists like George Soros, , USA MIC, warmongers, etc.. !! Example: Afghantism, IRAQ, Vietnam, Libya, Kosovo, IRAQ war1, IRaQ war 2, that what a meant! Trump need to win 2024 so they will be not another war! Russia is not like the old Soviets Union by the way. Soviet Union was communist! Russia is now call Russia Federation they believe is capitalism! They wanted to join NATO , but the west blew it chances with this proxy war start by American deep state! That why you need Trump in 2024 to fired all the deep state in the first 90 days in office and to prevent another war!
PS. Russia already full captured city of Bakmult, it matter time by latest fall of this year Ukrainian will lose the war!
So you admit that you are using sources that are full of shit.
When he outs your source as full of shit, claiming that someone else lied about some unrelated topic decades in the past is not a defense. It's a bit like Bill Cosby defending himself by saying, at least he didn't kill teenage girls like Paul Bernardo. Well sure, but that doesn't mean he didn't drug at rape girls.
Come on dude, try at least a bit.
It reminds me of this covidiot I know. She shares an article. I prove that it flat out lies, the citations it uses actually says it's wrong, the claims it made [the man is hiding information... that I was able to find within a minute from their sites] and then she goes on about monkey fetuses and the like, completely ignoring that fact that her trusted source is lying to her. I believe they call it moving the goal posts.
And sure when the money drys up the war will end. That is kinda how modern war works. Which is why we not only need to keep the flow going, but to double down on it unless you are some appeasement loving maternal fornicator who is utterly unwilling to learn from history. As for the rest, that is just fantasy, like Trump winning the last election or me being attractive to women.
Your MAGA comment earlier is telling. So basically, your overlord lies to you, and you just believe it, using whatever rando you can find on the internet to back you up and ignoring respectable sources because they lie... when your main source is a well documented liar and just non stop does it in a staggering manner... but we are all stupid trusting gullible mooks. Right...
Ukraine war: Kyiv rejects Wagner claim over Bakhmut
Wagner mercenaries claim the city has fallen, but Ukraine denies it saying the situation is "critical".www.bbc.com
My money is on Zelensky and Ukraine!
GO ZELENSKY GOOOOOOO!!!!
And that is a win how? It is a city or was of about 70K people, it's smaller than Kingston in population. It's about the same as taking Cornhole. 1 city. 224 days.
Also not the first time Russia has lied
Ukraine war: Kyiv rejects Wagner claim over Bakhmut
Wagner mercenaries claim the city has fallen, but Ukraine denies it saying the situation is "critical".
www.bbc.com
Reports of victory does not mean victory. As you point out, the claim is disputed and can't be verified.Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
But the mainstream media reports are also highlighting Ukraine's rejection of claims that the city has finally fallen. Yet, as the AP underscores, Ukrainian officials have lately admitted the situation was already dire for their forces:
Zelenskyy says 'Bakhmut is only in our hearts' after Russia claims control of Ukrainian city
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says that he believes that Russia has taken control of the eastern city of Bakhmut. Zelenskyy's comments in Japan on Sunday came after a bloody eight-month battle by Moscow’s Wagner private army with the support of Russian troops that has left Bakhmut in...apnews.com
However that didn't stop you from earlier saying.
"Guess latest news show Russian taken completely control of Bakhmut"
Lies and bullshit.
You omit the 7:1 casualty ratio as the untrained mobiks human-waved entrenched Ukrainian machine gun bunkers.And that is a win how? It is a city or was of about 70K people, it's smaller than Kingston in population. It's about the same as taking Cornhole. 1 city. 224 days.
Also not the first time Russia has lied
I am sure it will fall soon, the Russians seem to know they are fucked and are ignoring the losses on the flanks to try to take the last little bit of the city. It's almost like they figure the Ukrainians are going to surround Backmut and they better take the few remaining city blocks while they still can.Ukraine war: Kyiv rejects Wagner claim over Bakhmut
Wagner mercenaries claim the city has fallen, but Ukraine denies it saying the situation is "critical".
Above is what he is posting.
Below is what I am hearing.
PS by your own posting, you have admitted that taking the full city is disputed and not verified.
Also math maternal fornicator, do you do it. 200+ days [by your posting] to take a town of 70 thousand and you are calling for a Russian win by the end of the year. Even if they keep going, there will be another town of 70K or gasp even more, each of which will also take 7 months to take. Math, can you dig it suckas.
Also take this disturbing [to you] factoid.
Stalin et al didn't launch the counter attack at Stalingrad until the Germans too 90% of the city.
I was reminded of this recently [I've read multiple books on the subject going back over 40 years but connections, meh.
This would explain the delay of the Ukraine counter attack. Maybe that's the plan, let Bakhmut drag on, grind up those Russian troops including elite forces and then once it's value is done, smack that ass.
Hell look what they are doing with only 1 of the 13 new brigades they have been setting up. When the other 12 get into play... But I am sure your sources don't mention those recent events and if you read normal news like an adult you would block your ears and scream fake news like your pathological lying hero Trump as seems to be your style. Me I wear an onion on my belt and call nickles bees.
Russia has invaded more sovereign states since the end of The Great Patriotic War than the US. Look it up.
Russia is already at war. The war has started.
Soviet Union was started by a Dictator, Russia is now ruled by a Dictator. Soviet Union was corrupt, Russia is corrupt. Same same.
Russia wanted to join in order to keep other states out because they would have veto power, but they refused to comply with any of the conditions in joining. They tried to bully their way in. And when they didn't get their way, they went to war. Yet another Sovereign country invaded by the Russian war machine.
To prevent the war that's already been started, got it. You have warmongers, but the guy who actually launched the invasion is good. Understood.
So again, you say you need Trump to win in 2024 to avoid the war, but then say the war will be over before the election. You've lost the plot, Vatnik.
You're really stretching... again.
The system is fine. There was "minor" damage to one of the generators. Didn't get "destroyed". Radar and launchers all fine.
And guess what actually damaged the system?
The DEBRIS falling from one of your beloved 'unstoppable' hypersonic missiles that the Patriot shot down!
Clown indeed!
Wagner Declares Full Capture Of Bakhmut After 224 Days Of Fighting
TYLER DURDEN
May 20, 2023
Head of the Russian private military group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has announced Saturday that after months of grinding warfare and heavy casualties, Russia has now taken full control of the strategic city of Bakhmut.
Prigozhin is announcing final victory and that Bakhmut has finally fallen. "The operation to capture Bakhmut lasted 224 days" he said in a video posted to Wagner's Telegram channel. "Today at noon, Bakhmut was fully captured," he declared.
Russian state media is also declaring "The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces...".
Prigozhin described that full capture of the city finally came when an area containing high-rise buildings where the final Ukrainian defensive holdout had a presence was conquered.
Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
In a video posted on Telegram, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin said the city came under complete Russian control at about midday Saturday. He spoke flanked by about half a dozen fighters, with ruined buildings in the background and explosions heard in the distance.
But the mainstream media reports are also highlighting Ukraine's rejection of claims that the city has finally fallen. Yet, as the AP underscores, Ukrainian officials have lately admitted the situation was already dire for their forces:
However, after the video appeared, Ukrainian deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar said heavy fighting was continuing.
“The situation is critical,” she said. “As of now, our defenders, control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in this area.”
Serhiy Cherevatyi, spokesman for Ukraine’s eastern command, told The Associated Press that Prigozhin’s claim “is not true. Our units are fighting in Bakhmut.”
Starting weeks ago the Russian side said it held at least 90-95% of the city, and that gains were being made a couple hundred meters at a time. Prigozhin said Saturday that by the end of the month Wagner will hand over its captured positions to regular Russian forces.
Interestingly, The New York Times issued the following story at the very moment that Wagner declared victory - a headline that looks to have immediately become obsolete:
Western media has been hyping Ukrainian "gains" of late in Bakhmut, but that doesn't look to have ultimately been the case. Likely as verification comes of Russia's control of the key city in Donetsk, there will be a lot of downplaying of the significance by US and Western officials.
It could also make Zelensky's G7 trip in Japan more awkward. He's expected to meet with President Biden and other G7 leaders on Saturday. Top on the agenda for Zelensky will be requests to expedite fighter jets to Kiev, and it looks like the Western allies are slowly moving in that direction. But the elephant in the room will be growing doubts even among the most ardent of Kiev's supporters of whether Ukraine can in fact 'win'... no matter how much military equipment they are given by Western backers.
www.zerohedge.com
TYLER DURDEN
May 20, 2023
Head of the Russian private military group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has announced Saturday that after months of grinding warfare and heavy casualties, Russia has now taken full control of the strategic city of Bakhmut.
Prigozhin is announcing final victory and that Bakhmut has finally fallen. "The operation to capture Bakhmut lasted 224 days" he said in a video posted to Wagner's Telegram channel. "Today at noon, Bakhmut was fully captured," he declared.
Russian state media is also declaring "The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces...".
Prigozhin described that full capture of the city finally came when an area containing high-rise buildings where the final Ukrainian defensive holdout had a presence was conquered.
Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
In a video posted on Telegram, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin said the city came under complete Russian control at about midday Saturday. He spoke flanked by about half a dozen fighters, with ruined buildings in the background and explosions heard in the distance.
But the mainstream media reports are also highlighting Ukraine's rejection of claims that the city has finally fallen. Yet, as the AP underscores, Ukrainian officials have lately admitted the situation was already dire for their forces:
However, after the video appeared, Ukrainian deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar said heavy fighting was continuing.
“The situation is critical,” she said. “As of now, our defenders, control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in this area.”
Serhiy Cherevatyi, spokesman for Ukraine’s eastern command, told The Associated Press that Prigozhin’s claim “is not true. Our units are fighting in Bakhmut.”
Starting weeks ago the Russian side said it held at least 90-95% of the city, and that gains were being made a couple hundred meters at a time. Prigozhin said Saturday that by the end of the month Wagner will hand over its captured positions to regular Russian forces.
Interestingly, The New York Times issued the following story at the very moment that Wagner declared victory - a headline that looks to have immediately become obsolete:
Western media has been hyping Ukrainian "gains" of late in Bakhmut, but that doesn't look to have ultimately been the case. Likely as verification comes of Russia's control of the key city in Donetsk, there will be a lot of downplaying of the significance by US and Western officials.
It could also make Zelensky's G7 trip in Japan more awkward. He's expected to meet with President Biden and other G7 leaders on Saturday. Top on the agenda for Zelensky will be requests to expedite fighter jets to Kiev, and it looks like the Western allies are slowly moving in that direction. But the elephant in the room will be growing doubts even among the most ardent of Kiev's supporters of whether Ukraine can in fact 'win'... no matter how much military equipment they are given by Western backers.
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Wagner Declares Full Capture Of Bakhmut After 224 Days Of Fighting
TYLER DURDEN
May 20, 2023
Head of the Russian private military group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has announced Saturday that after months of grinding warfare and heavy casualties, Russia has now taken full control of the strategic city of Bakhmut.
Prigozhin is announcing final victory and that Bakhmut has finally fallen. "The operation to capture Bakhmut lasted 224 days" he said in a video posted to Wagner's Telegram channel. "Today at noon, Bakhmut was fully captured," he declared.
Russian state media is also declaring "The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces...".
Prigozhin described that full capture of the city finally came when an area containing high-rise buildings where the final Ukrainian defensive holdout had a presence was conquered.
Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
In a video posted on Telegram, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin said the city came under complete Russian control at about midday Saturday. He spoke flanked by about half a dozen fighters, with ruined buildings in the background and explosions heard in the distance.
But the mainstream media reports are also highlighting Ukraine's rejection of claims that the city has finally fallen. Yet, as the AP underscores, Ukrainian officials have lately admitted the situation was already dire for their forces:
However, after the video appeared, Ukrainian deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar said heavy fighting was continuing.
“The situation is critical,” she said. “As of now, our defenders, control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in this area.”
Serhiy Cherevatyi, spokesman for Ukraine’s eastern command, told The Associated Press that Prigozhin’s claim “is not true. Our units are fighting in Bakhmut.”
Starting weeks ago the Russian side said it held at least 90-95% of the city, and that gains were being made a couple hundred meters at a time. Prigozhin said Saturday that by the end of the month Wagner will hand over its captured positions to regular Russian forces.
Interestingly, The New York Times issued the following story at the very moment that Wagner declared victory - a headline that looks to have immediately become obsolete:
Western media has been hyping Ukrainian "gains" of late in Bakhmut, but that doesn't look to have ultimately been the case. Likely as verification comes of Russia's control of the key city in Donetsk, there will be a lot of downplaying of the significance by US and Western officials.
It could also make Zelensky's G7 trip in Japan more awkward. He's expected to meet with President Biden and other G7 leaders on Saturday. Top on the agenda for Zelensky will be requests to expedite fighter jets to Kiev, and it looks like the Western allies are slowly moving in that direction. But the elephant in the room will be growing doubts even among the most ardent of Kiev's supporters of whether Ukraine can in fact 'win'... no matter how much military equipment they are given by Western backers.
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
Is this the same Yevgeny Prigozhin declaring they didn't have enough ammo and were getting decimated just last week and today they conquered Bakhmut?? Wow, LMAOWagner Declares Full Capture Of Bakhmut After 224 Days Of Fighting
TYLER DURDEN
May 20, 2023
Head of the Russian private military group Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin, has announced Saturday that after months of grinding warfare and heavy casualties, Russia has now taken full control of the strategic city of Bakhmut.
Prigozhin is announcing final victory and that Bakhmut has finally fallen. "The operation to capture Bakhmut lasted 224 days" he said in a video posted to Wagner's Telegram channel. "Today at noon, Bakhmut was fully captured," he declared.
Russian state media is also declaring "The key Donbass city of Artyomovsk, known as Bakhmut in Ukraine, has been fully liberated by the Russian forces...".
Prigozhin described that full capture of the city finally came when an area containing high-rise buildings where the final Ukrainian defensive holdout had a presence was conquered.
Western media reports have said they can't verify the claims, but headlines in Reuters and the Associated Press are widely reporting the Wagner chief's declaration of victory:
In a video posted on Telegram, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin said the city came under complete Russian control at about midday Saturday. He spoke flanked by about half a dozen fighters, with ruined buildings in the background and explosions heard in the distance.
But the mainstream media reports are also highlighting Ukraine's rejection of claims that the city has finally fallen. Yet, as the AP underscores, Ukrainian officials have lately admitted the situation was already dire for their forces:
However, after the video appeared, Ukrainian deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar said heavy fighting was continuing.
“The situation is critical,” she said. “As of now, our defenders, control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in this area.”
Serhiy Cherevatyi, spokesman for Ukraine’s eastern command, told The Associated Press that Prigozhin’s claim “is not true. Our units are fighting in Bakhmut.”
Starting weeks ago the Russian side said it held at least 90-95% of the city, and that gains were being made a couple hundred meters at a time. Prigozhin said Saturday that by the end of the month Wagner will hand over its captured positions to regular Russian forces.
Interestingly, The New York Times issued the following story at the very moment that Wagner declared victory - a headline that looks to have immediately become obsolete:
Western media has been hyping Ukrainian "gains" of late in Bakhmut, but that doesn't look to have ultimately been the case. Likely as verification comes of Russia's control of the key city in Donetsk, there will be a lot of downplaying of the significance by US and Western officials.
It could also make Zelensky's G7 trip in Japan more awkward. He's expected to meet with President Biden and other G7 leaders on Saturday. Top on the agenda for Zelensky will be requests to expedite fighter jets to Kiev, and it looks like the Western allies are slowly moving in that direction. But the elephant in the room will be growing doubts even among the most ardent of Kiev's supporters of whether Ukraine can in fact 'win'... no matter how much military equipment they are given by Western backers.
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
This was just 2 days ago
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This is a leader with balls of steel
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