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wikiwild

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First, race is not an issue, it is physically impossible for race to be an issue. So shut the hell up about black this and white that.

2nd, it is true that the perpetrators were black, and that's to help identification, not explanation.

This crime is certainly sickening, and I think most people are really just feeling helpless (as I am). The helplessness is daunting and I think as a result, insecurities are bubbling to the surface as knee-jerk reactions.

Lets not take any steps back.
 

eric42

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Arena said:
You've proved my point exactly.
I criticize the guy for making the worst out of a situation he could have left alone.
You respond by attacking me with your big mouth. If you were half the man you pretend to be, you would not have made the worst of a comment not aimed at you in the first place.
Big man hiding behind a keyboard eric42....
So glad we can entertain you all.
Nothing too exciting on the SP scene lately.
What point have you made, other than the fact that you are dumbass. Were you born that way, or has the medication that you so desparately need wittled away all your common sense(s).

I'm hiding behind the same keyboard that you and everyone olse on here uses. What a penetrating observation!

Tell me who I'm pretenting to be? I cherish your opinion and would like to know. Maybe it will help me get in touch with my other side, or at least the half that you seem to think I'm missing.

As for my big mouth, thanks for noticing. Maybe I should get fitted for a flak jacket, seeing that speaking up is a dangerous undertaking these days. I get it now. People should not speak up when dealing with fools and people should keep their mouths shut when shit happens. Thanks for helping me see the light on this Serena.

P.S. The SP scene is actually quite exciting these days. Its actually the same scene that you frequent. Is that the best you can do for a dig at me.

One last thing. Still, only one person has come forward with information. I guess the Wilson bus riders share Mr. Mensa's point of view. Sad but true.
 

Arena

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Like I just said, if private lessons are available.....name the time & place.

You sit there all night babysitting your post.....what no snappy retort now? eric42
 

jacksparrow

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How many white guys have shot total strangers on the ttc again?
I think it's a bit much to give the guy who got shot a hard time for trying to get to the front of the bus. Just take those bullets like a man huh?
you might be on to something though... the ttc in scarborough etc should give out bullet proof vests and helmets.
 

Manji

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Arena said:
Like I just said, if private lessons are available.....name the time & place.

You sit there all night babysitting your post.....what no snappy retort now? eric42
..... Maybe, instead of TERB having TERB parties; we should organize TERB fight nights.
Guys who have been fighting it out over the internet could settle their disputes in person. Set up a ring, gets some boxing gloves and let the fun begin.
Hell, we could even put money on it.

Anyways...
The guy who got shot was either brave or stupid but either way he did not deserve to get shot.
And with a gun in your face, most people's reaction will be closer to panic then calmness. So its not a surprise to see that he ran rather than talked it out. Who is to say he wouldn't have got shot trying to defuse the situation?

I doubt those kids were illegals, chances are they are born and bred in Toronto. The government is failing these kids and turning them into career criminals. Cutbacks in education, community programs, lack of jobs, etc....
Youth in Toronto are left out in the streets and are just finding nothing but trouble. By the age of twenty most of these kids will be hardened criminals and unfortunatly more incidents like what happened on Sunday will occur.
 

Esco!

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I put 20 bucks on the guy who cant spell right.
Damn, he's bound to be a scrapper cause he cant type worth shit!!
 

torex

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from what I understand the punks were gloating about having shot people and the victim voiced his opinion. *stupid*

personally I would have walked to the front of the bus without saying a word,pulled out my cell and called the police quietly.

thank god I'm not a TTC rider :rolleyes:
 

Manji

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Could be the white guy was from out of town (like from a small town or an immigrant) and just didn't have any street sense to know better.

As for walking to the front and calling the cops; I doubt if the cops would be there in time to catch those punks. Unless there is a real immediate need to be there, the cops aren't usually going to rush to the scene.
 

eric42

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Arena said:
Like I just said, if private lessons are available.....name the time & place.

You sit there all night babysitting your post.....what no snappy retort now? eric42
Oh my, oh my....Serena wants to meet me after school. I guess I hit a nerve and have been threatened with a case of Internet Rage with. Words can be hurtful and poor Serena just can't take it anymore.

Unlike you, I have another life to tend to, so I apologize for not responding earlier. Nice to see you were concerened and I'm sorry to upset you. My advice is for you to go upstairs and have a good cry- your mommy will make everything feel much better.

" Name the time and place". LOL. You are so typical. I would much rather spend my spare time (and money) rolling around with the likes of pretty ladies, and not crybabies like you.

Have a nice day and try growing up, you angry little boy.
 

Quest4Less

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This Arena character sounds just like the type that would pull out a gun and start shooting....

As for the punks from the bus - burn in hell. To the people on the bus who have not come forward - burn in hell (by doing nothing you allow it to happen again).
 

torex

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As for walking to the front and calling the cops; I doubt if the cops would be there in time to catch those punks. Unless there is a real immediate need to be there, the cops aren't usually going to rush to the scene
I'd bet they would respond rather quick if you mentioned you think you saw one brandish a gun.
I have a few friends who are undercover cops. have some faith in our police force.believe it or not,most of them DO care you know.
 

Bella6969

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i know it may seem wrong to some of you
but i know if iwas on that bus and was hearing
a convo like that around my children i would for sure say something , but then again call police or bus driver first
This tragedy has been really disturbing to me me
I keep thinking that could have been my daughter*
 

Arena

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eric42...... Sure I may come across as being childish & immature. I'm a bit new to this cyber attack thing, unlike yourself. Looks like this a very common thing for you.
If this were real life you bet your sorry ass I would kick yours. Unfortunately cyber games have a different set of rules.
Since you get off on this sort of thing, I will no longer indulge in your fantasy world.

As for the rest of you all......think what you will of me.
If you do a bit of reading on this eric42 , you will see what I mean.
Wanting to shut up a guy with a big mouth is not the same as pulling a gun.
 
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I did not know that random shootings/acts of violence come in so many "colors" I do not think that it would have mattered if the persons shooting were black, white, purple or green. Stupidity and ignorance does not come in colors but in sheer ignorance.....

JMHO

OSerena
 

maxim4

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hmmm..............

This is NOT an issue of race, the governments short comings, security on the TTC or gun control! This an issue about uncaring selfish THUGS who put the lives those on the bus in imminent danger and shot two people! Then to make a bad situation worse the 'witnesses' and I use that term loosely, leave the damn scene! It's funny how so called 'community leaders' are always present and quite vocal when a 'white cop' shots someone in the course of a crime but when innocent bystanders are victims of these useless selfish thugs....no one dares to defend them! how sad ho Toronto the good has gone to memories of yesteryear and the city we now occupy is as unforgiving as they come!
As for those who choose make this a session of fingerpointing....remember the thug in the middle the blame is his and only his. The blame does not belong to his race, ethnicity, family,religion, community or his friends!
 

wumpscut

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Arena said:
The real idiot is the 25 yr. old who confronted the 5 youths at the back of the bus.
If he did not turn tail and run toward the front of the bus, the little girl would not have been hurt.

Help me understand your point of view, Arena. You feel the guy who got shot is to blame.... not the shooters?
by running away from sociopaths who were tying to kill him... he caused the little girl to get shot? He was supposed to stand there and get killed right? Shooter not directly responsible for shooting the little girl? I think most people would run from someone brandishing a gun with intent to kill, don't you?
He (the shooting victim) should have kept his mouth shut to avoid confrontation? Yet you publicly challenge another TERB member to meet you for a fight. Why is it OK for you to be confrontational when you advise others to shut up ? Eric42 strongly disagreed with your post, now it's time for a street brawl?
Why can't you blame the shooters rather than the victim?
 

papasmerf

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rama putri said:
Violence isn't a matter of race, that part is true. It's a matter of culture.

Violence is what gangs and thugs use to keep people in line. No matter the culture there is an underbelly to it. Never fool yourself into thinking that violence is best met with social programs.
 

rama putri

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papasmerf said:
Never fool yourself into thinking that violence is best met with social programs.
? You are really better than me at connecting the dots. Is that what I wrote?
 
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