Trump's crackdown on Illegal Immigration off to a fast start.

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Except for the millions of times that it hasn't. Perhaps as many as 30 million times?

Besides, there are quite a few prominent Democrats who disagree with you, because they have vowed not to co-operate with, or even to oppose, ICE deportation actions.

They enforce the law where they should which is why deportations were higher under Biden than under Trump.
Sanctuary cities issue ordinances choosing to protect undocumented immigrants, so it does not fall under lack of enforcement.
Lack of enforcement, is willful negligence.
That does not happen.

 

[danmand]

They enforce the law where they should which is why deportations were higher under Biden than under Trump.
Sanctuary cities issue ordinances choosing to protect undocumented immigrants, so it does not fall under lack of enforcement.
Lack of enforcement, is willful negligence.
That does not happen.

It is true, that USA has a long standing tradition of incompetence in administrating it's immigration laws. I experienced it myself in 1975, when I was on a H-1B visa in California, and when even the corporate counsel of IBM was unable to get a response from the immigration department. I had to overstay my visa but was notwithstanding that able to go to Europe and return to California.

 

[JohnLarue]

It is OK as long as ICE only deports people from large cities. Who cares if the houses and offices get cleaned or if the fast food joints have enough workers.

It is when and if they start to deport the people who work in agriculture and slaughterhouses etc. that the shit will hit the fans. There will be no food.

do you think there is shortage of legal applicants for immigration ?

 

[squeezer]

Well CNN is busy laying off employees so someone needs to be reporting the news right?

Sure, of course you eat up everything Fox Fake Network feeds you as the Republican Propanganda source of the cult Leader Trump. I mean picking up Fox hosts to put in the highest position of a cabinet probably is the hint hint that they bullshit you. If not, paying out 800M to settle a case of lying is definitly a good indication but hey, some of folks are just to niave to realize they are being taken for fools.

 

[Valcazar]

Here are the first Army and Marine Corps units heading to the border

US Northern Command has identified the units to which the first 1,000 soldiers and 500 Marines deploying to the southern border are assigned.

taskandpurpose.com

The question is whether the Administration is planning to violate posse comitatus or strike Mexico.

 

[richaceg]

Am yet to read the full report.
Here is the cost. Took some screenshots to highlight.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

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I wonder how much it's costing the gov't to keep than to deport...LoL.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I wonder how much it's costing the gov't to keep than to deport...LoL.

Far less I'd imagine considering they play on the economy.

 

[JohnLarue]

Negative. As is the case in Canada, citizens and green card holders are simply not willing to do the work in the fields and in the slaughterhouses.

Canada has solved the problem through a program of importing temporary workers for the growing season from Mexico and Jamaica. The advantage to this program is that the temporary workers do not bring their families with them.

USA would need to implement a similar program on a much larger scale in order to produce food.
The simple solution to the problem would be to issue resident visas to the existing farm workers.

Canada has solved the problem ?
No.
Our government has lost track of the ''temporary" immigrants, many of which do not go home
That is a huge problem and not a solution

if anyone wants to live here ,apply, enter legally and welcome to Canada , we wish you much success
if you will not respect our laws, look elsewhere

 

[squeezer]

No, by that reasoning a country with crime and which didn't enforce its laws would be a country with no laws.

Tell that to all the working girls who crossed from Canada and recieved a 10 year ban for being suspected of being an escort. What about all the guns and drugs that cross our border coming from the US. Perhaps Canada should threaten the US with Tariffs and offer them to become the 11th Province of Canada with Trump as Premier.

Also for the record, crossings under Biden in his last year were lower than Trump ever accomplished. Just sayin.

 

[JohnLarue]

The whole thing is a political charade. If USA wanted to get rid of undocumented aliens, she could simply do what every other country including Canada does: enforce IRS rules, i.e. make it impossible to pay undocumented aliens.

If I pay salary to someone, who is not a legal resident in Canada, my company would be shut down in a fortnight.

The reason it is not done in USA is that in a naked capitalistic system it is essential to have a proletariat, that is willing to work for any pay under any conditions. Read Marx.

too funny
the lefts approach .... keep track of the money so we can tax it

It is so ironic how the commies despise people who create wealth yet their answer to everything is to steal the wealth

 

[Dutch Oven]

Tell that to all the working girls who crossed from Canada and recieved a 10 year ban for being suspected of being an escort. What about all the guns and drugs that cross our border coming from the US. Perhaps Canada should threaten the US with Tariffs and offer them to become the 11th Province of Canada with Trump as Premier.

Also for the record, crossings under Biden in his last year were lower than Trump ever accomplished. Just sayin.

I'm honestly trying to distill if there is a point to respond to here. Are you arguing that if Americans have brought illegal goods into Canada or if the illegal crossings from Mexico into the US are lower in 2024 than 2023 then Americans DON'T deserve a secure border? That's hard to follow, logically. Would it put your mind at peace if I said that Americans, Canadians, and Mexicans ALL deserve secure borders?

 

[JohnLarue]

Humiliating brown people is cheered.

i do not care what color you skin is, if you do not respect the laws of the land, including the immigration laws, you are not welcome.
humiliation ?
a minor risk included in the many risks, criminals assume when they break the law
it is humiliating for the entire population of the country that criminals do not respect them enough to abide by the laws of the land

the rule of law is the barrier against chaos

 

[richaceg]

Far less I'd imagine considering they play on the economy.

I'm talking about the ones who can't work and being housed...also they affect employment so sure, they play on the economy...badly.

 

[DesRicardo]

Is this real or AI?

 

[DesRicardo]

 

[mandrill]

Here are the first Army and Marine Corps units heading to the border

US Northern Command has identified the units to which the first 1,000 soldiers and 500 Marines deploying to the southern border are assigned.

taskandpurpose.com

The question is whether the Administration is planning to violate posse comitatus or strike Mexico.

So far, it has been explicit that the military will support LE and not perform LE duties themselves, so as not to violate posse comitatus.

As far as invading Mexico is concerned, what would be the plan ffs?

Wander out into the Chihuahua desert and peer under the cactuses for illegals??

 

[mandrill]

I'm honestly trying to distill if there is a point to respond to here. Are you arguing that if Americans have brought illegal goods into Canada or if the illegal crossings from Mexico into the US are lower in 2024 than 2023 then Americans DON'T deserve a secure border? That's hard to follow, logically. Would it put your mind at peace if I said that Americans, Canadians, and Mexicans ALL deserve secure borders?

But nothing is ever going to be 100% crime free or secure, right?

So where do you go with that argument?

It's like saying that the police have failed us because there are still robberies and drunk drivers.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It is true, that USA has a long standing tradition of incompetence in administrating it's immigration laws. I experienced it myself in 1975, when I was on a H-1B visa in California, and when even the corporate counsel of IBM was unable to get a response from the immigration department. I had to overstay my visa but was notwithstanding that able to go to Europe and return to California.

Immigration is inundated with requests and applications.
Not just immigration, but most government departments are such.
You wont get a response lol.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I'm talking about the ones who can't work and being housed...also they affect employment so sure, they play on the economy...badly.

What do you mean they cannot work? Legally?
They get paid below minimum wage and get paid in cash.
Which is why they make up almost 5% of the workforce.
So sure they play in the economy.

 

[squeezer]

I'm honestly trying to distill if there is a point to respond to here. Are you arguing that if Americans have brought illegal goods into Canada or if the illegal crossings from Mexico into the US are lower in 2024 than 2023 then Americans DON'T deserve a secure border? That's hard to follow, logically. Would it put your mind at peace if I said that Americans, Canadians, and Mexicans ALL deserve secure borders?

Let me make it a little more clear for you Dutchie.

Guns pour in from the US, what is Trump doing to stop this?

The last biggest cocain drug bust, just last week originated in Mexico, through the US and crossing our border. Luckily our stellar team caught it. Why did this happen under Trump? What is he doing to stop the drugs and guns to come over our border yet he cries with bullshit and nonsense that illegal immigrants and fentanyl is pouring into the US from our side?

Reality is, do I really care about the border. No, it is just a boogy man the righties love to harp on just like trannies are taking over the world and kids are changing sexes, OMG OMG nonsense and bullshit. lol