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Trump/Zelensky deal turns into Jerry Springer episode

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Actually a dual citizen who practically spent there whole life here. I don't appreciate how Trump is treating us. All my assets are here. Sorry I'm just really pissed with his shenanigans! I think I need to go for a drink!
 

Bucktee

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The way the US is handling all this raises the chances that Putin ends up with Ukraine's resources.

Cunning strategy or incompetence by Trump, up to everyone to decide.
Not a chance. Putin is smarter than that. He knows not to roll in and take everything knowing what's at stake.

That's literally child's play.

Trump's strategy will ultimately succeed.
 

oil&gas

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The way the US is handling all this raises the chances that Putin ends up with Ukraine's resources.
Trump and Putin will have to agree on what the fair share of the
rewards to be reaped from Ukraine's demise for each of them should
be. I doubt Trump is the one to get a smaller share.

Cunning strategy or incompetence by Trump, up to everyone to decide.
 

Skoob

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Europe sends their FUCK YOU to your daddy Trumputin

Amazingly they didn't have enough money to live up to their NATO spending commitments for years, and now suddenly have the money????

That laundering scheme really does work! Lol!
 

benstt

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Trump and Putin will have to agree on what the fair share of the
rewards to be reaped from Ukraine's demise for each of them should
be. I doubt Trump is the one to get a smaller share.
Yes, in this scenario, a traitorous Trump is compromised and is expecting a kick back of some sort. However, possession is everything.
 

mellowjello

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Amazingly they didn't have enough money to live up to their NATO spending commitments for years, and now suddenly have the money????

That laundering scheme really does work! Lol!
There's never enough money until you have to.
More important, this arrangement may be more attractive and advantageous for the EU.
Trump was pushing for 5% GDP defense spending, not realistic.
Under NATO they would be spending all that money and still be under the U.S. thumb.
This way they're not bitches but partners to some degree, they determine how and where the money is spent.
They can also dictate their own policy, defending Europe as opposed to predatory like NATO, looking to antagonize and weaken Russia.
 
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Frankfooter

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There's never enough money until you have to.
More important, this arrangement may be more attractive and advantageous for the EU.
Trump was pushing for 5% GDP defense spending, not realistic.
Under NATO they would be spending all that money and still be under the U.S. thumb.
This way they're not bitches but partners to some degree, they determine how and where the money is spent.
They can also dictate their own policy, defending Europe as opposed to predatory like NATO, looking to antagonize and weaken Russia.
Then trump is free to send another $16 billion to Israel and start talking Moscow hotel trump with Putin and he'll get back to the Gaza mar-a-logo wet dream as well.
He doesn't care about any other country.
 
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JuanGoodman

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CNN's Jake Tapper admits that Europeans are funding both sides of the war in Ukraine. "Europeans were actually buying more Russian oil and gas than they were helping Ukraine... So in some ways, the Europeans are funding both sides of the war." Wow, if only someone had called out Europe in 2018 for depending on Russian oil.
what do you expect from a far right wing propaganda station like CNN :)
 
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